Toyota Tundra 5.7 liter V-8 To replace engines Due to bad camshafts. That they Knew were Bad, back in February.
NICE.
Yep nothing says quality like that.
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Toyota Tundra 5.7 liter V-8 To replace engines Due to bad camshafts. That they Knew were Bad, back in February.
NICE.
Yep nothing says quality like that.
If this is true, seems they’re doing what they’re supposed to do. Initiating a recall when all the parts are ready to distribute. Had they made the recall in Feb. when they first discovered the problem they would have had tens of thousands of trucks in for service with no parts to service them with, then what?? Just about every vehicle out there will have a recall of some sort, I know my Ford truck and now chevy car each had recalls and they were/are both quality rigs. Awful tough to dismiss toyota’s reliability, recalls happen. I don’t drive a toyota, never have but several in my family have and they’ve been flawless vehicles, run like champs. I don’t think because there’s a recall it means they’re not “quality” vehicles.
P.S. It would be great to see a link backing this up, I couldn’t find anything on toyota’s site??
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Toyota Tundra may be recalled
Toyota Motor Corp. faces a costly setback in the biggest U.S. vehicle launch in its history after owners of its new Tundra pickup reported engine failures.
The Japanese automaker may recall Tundras equipped with 5.7-liter V-8s to replace the engines, a company spokesman said Wednesday.
The trouble with the Tundra’s 5.7-liter engines, the most powerful engine available on the new pickup, is the latest in a series of recalls and problems that have dented Toyota’s reputation.
The automaker set the industry standards for vehicle quality, but now seems to be straining to maintain top quality as it expands overseas, builds factories and hires thousands of new workers.
“It’s really tough,” said Karl Brauer, editor of Edmunds.com, an automotive research Web site. “Engine failure kills a car’s ability to run and it’s not a simple thing to fix.”
Such a problem is also likely to affect residual values, he said.
Industry experts say Toyota is extremely vulnerable to negative publicity because of its prominence in the industry.
In the first quarter of 2007, Toyota overtook General Motors Corp. to become the world’s leading automaker in terms of sales.
With the launch of the Tundra earlier this year, Toyota aims to double its share of the lucrative full-size pickup market, one of the few segments still dominated by the U.S. automakers.
Toyota officials characterize the Tundra launch as the most important introduction in the company’s history in the United States.
The rollout has suffered delays and disappointments. For instance, the Tundra earned lower frontal crash scores than domestic rivals such as the Ford F-150 and Dodge Ram.
But the engine problem is more damaging and could slow the vehicle’s brisk sales momentum.
Company spokesman Bill Kwong said Toyota realized in February that there was a problem with the camshafts delivered by a supplier for the 5.7-liter engine, and the automaker ordered the necessary changes to production.
Still, Toyota has seen 20 cases of engine failure in trucks equipped with 5.7-liter engines, although no injuries have been reported.
Toyota is now studying how many of the 30,000 5.7-liter engines it built are affected.
Toyota builds the Tundra pickup at assembly plants in Princeton, Ind., and San Antonio, Texas, and makes the engines in Alabama.
The automaker hopes to sell 200,000 new Tundras this year, compared with 124,508 previous-generation Tundras in 2006.
But U.S. automakers are holding their own in the pickup market, and GM has been successful with its new Chevrolet Silverado and GMC Sierra trucks.
In contrast to their performance in the car market, where they have been pushed back by Japanese nameplates, American manufacturers account for more than 90 percent of full-size pickup sales, which totaled 2.2 million units in 2006.
You can reach Christine Tierney at (313) 222-1463 or [email protected].
Recalls are never good for a manufacturer. Some customers may think it s great they are getting a new enigine, for an ’07 pick-up ??? But most will find it trouble/bothersome…
big g
I own an 05 chevy 3/4 ton and love it..but I still think that Toyota is a great vehicle and wouldnt have any problem buying one if they were a bit more beefy and roomy..I am always afraid of getting a “new model” vehcle where they have totally revamped the vehicle…engine and all… no matter the make..In my opinion let the vehicle be on the road for a year and work out the bugs before you go and buy a “new model”…good luck to all you who have these trucks…Jay
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“It’s really tough,” said Karl Brauer, editor of Edmunds.com, an automotive research Web site. “Engine failure kills a car’s ability to run and it’s not a simple thing to fix.”
Ya think?
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Maybe he is related to Denny Greene?
You can find Denny and Toyota on the Highroad….or maybe the side of the road now….
I am going to look at this truck when I am ready for a new one, especially if they put a 6.5 box on the Crewmax
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Toyota Tundra 5.7 liter V-8 To replace engines Due to bad camshafts. That they Knew were Bad, back in February.
NICE.Yep nothing says quality like that.
You say that like other manufactures haven’t had recalls
It will hurt them for a while but I’m sure they will bounce back.
http://www.thetorquereport.com/2007/03/2007_toyota_tundra_is_not_off.html
The NHTSA has just released the crash test results of the new 2007 Toyota Tundra and they are not as good as expected. Both the regular cab and crew cab versions of the truck only received four stars. Every other full-size truck has received five stars, including the recently released Chevy Silverado and GMC Sierra. This means that the likelihood of being injured in a frontal crash could be up to 10% higher in the Tundra than its domestic rivals. The main issue is that the Tundra does not ride on a full boxed frame like its competition. Instead it is a three part system with only the front part being fully boxed.
This news comes right after Toyota has announced incentives on the Tundra. This news only gives the other truck makers another claim that their product is better.
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Toyota has seen 20 cases of engine failure in trucks equipped with 5.7-liter engines
The scoop with the 20 engine failures was some guys who previously had GM, Ford, and Mopar trucks thought they would give Toyota a try and the Toyota trucks weren’t capable of the work that their American trucks did, therefore causing the failure.
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Toyota has seen 20 cases of engine failure in trucks equipped with 5.7-liter engines
The scoop with the 20 engine failures was some guys who previously had GM, Ford, and Mopar trucks thought they would give Toyota a try and the Toyota trucks weren’t capable of the work that their American trucks did, therefore causing the failure.
if that isn’t the truth.
http://www.pickuptruck.com has the full story on the recall.
5.7-liter Toyota Tundras Hit with Camshaft Failures
By: Mike Levine Posted: 05-28-07 12:09 PT
© 2007 PickupTruck.com
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Update #3: 05-31-07 11:57 PT
Playing down the imminence of a recall, Toyota spokesperson Bill Kwong tells PickupTruck.com that, “It’s still too early to tell if a recall is necessary, but if it is, we’ll initiate it.”
But even a limited recall could turn into a very expensive proposition for the OEM. Jim Hossack, vice president and head of the pickup truck consulting practice at AutoPacific, a West Coast marketing and consulting firm, estimates the costs at upwards of $5000 per truck to replace a broken 5.7-liter i-Force V8 motor.
“At this point, they’ll probably issue a TSB (Technical Service Bulletin) to their dealers, instead of doing a recall,” says Hossack.
$5000 for each engine swap could be a relative bargain though versus the short term cost that this incident has caused Toyota’s reputation for building high quality automobiles.
Still, Hossack thinks both Toyota and the Tundra will be fine in the long run because of Toyota’s relatively unblemished quality record.
“Toyota will be forgiven and will come out of this unscathed, as long as there are no other major problems after this, but if the same situation had happened to a company like Hyundai, they’d be skewered,” says Hossack.”
Tundra owners impacted by a failed camshaft will face their own costs, especially if they depend on their truck for their livelihood. In this case, Bill Kwong says Toyota dealers will do what they can to help.
“Our dealers have approximately 1,600 new Tundras nationwide for disposal as a loaner vehicle while a customer’s truck is being repaired,” says Kwong, “and that doesn’t include older Tundras and Tacomas.”
Toyota has also been proactively managing the camshaft problem with some of its most loyal fans. Toyota communications and public relations reps have posted apologies and responses to comments in online discussion forums at ToyotaNation.com, a general Toyota news and community website, and at TundraSolutions.com, an online neighborhood of Tundra and other Toyota vehicle owners.
Update #2: 05-31-07 02:10 PT
The Detroit News, after speaking with a Toyota spokesperson on Wednesday, is reporting, “[Toyota] may recall Tundras equipped with 5.7-liter V-8s to replace the engines.”
Update #1: 05-28-07 22:50 PT
In a written reply to our inquiry asking for further clarification on the number of 5.7-liter engines potentially impacted by the camshaft issue, Toyota spokesperson Mike Michels tells PickupTruck.com, “The casting defect was found very early and immediately corrected. Because the heart of the Toyota production system is the continuous flow “just in time” method, there is no such thing as a “batch” of engines. In general the same holds true for suppliers, who keep very small inventories. So the advantage is that problems are quickly found, countermeasures taken rapidly and there aren’t large quantities of potentially defective parts in the system.
As a result only a very few production engines were effected from the
earliest production. No, this absolutely will not impact all 30,000 5.7
liter engines sold to date. It will be a very small number. 20 units
represents less than 0.06 percent of vehicles sold. We are confident that very few customers will experience the problem but pending the on going analysis it is not possible to give a precise number.”
For Tundra customers who might be impacted by a faulty camshaft, Michels added the following, “As mentioned in the story, rather than replacing the camshaft, many customers whose engines have a broken camshaft are receiving a new engine, via airfreight to the dealer. Feedback from customers indicates that this exceeds their expectations.
Two side notes:
1.) I’d like to thank Mr. Michels for his very rapid response back to us during this Memorial Day holiday.
2.) I also corrected a typo, where I mistakenly said Toyota will pay the costs to replace the entire engine of any new Tundra with a failed crankshaft. It should have said ‘camshaft’. I regret the error.
– Mike
The launch of the all new 2007 Tundra full size pickup continues to go anything but smoothly for Toyota. Automotive News is reporting on a string of twenty recent camshaft failures in Tundras equipped with popular i-Force 5.7-liter DOHC V8 motors. Toyota is trying to determine how many of the 30,000 engines built so far might be affected by, “…a metallurgical defect in the casting,” according to Toyota spokesperson Mike Michels in the story. The company is blaming the defect on the camshaft’s supplier and says it has been corrected.
A camshaft is a metal rod with lobes, or cams, that spin and push open an engine’s intake and exhaust valves to let the air/fuel mixture into the engine and the exhaust out during combustion. Double overhead cam motors, like the 5.7-liter V8, use four cams – two per head – to allow for better gas flow and more power.
Toyota will pay the costs to replace the entire engine of any new Tundra with a failed camshaft.
This bad news for Toyota follows surprising and disappointing four star safety ratings in government crash tests, unexpected incentive pricing to kick start sales of regular cab Tundras, and at least $430 million in cost overruns building the Tundra’s new Texas manufacturing plant.
Top 10 Pickups
Sales Figures
Year-to-Date (YTD) May-2007
Ford F-Series
290,282 -13.3% YTD
May 2007: 61,939
May 2006: 70,175
Chevrolet Silverado
265,941 +2.9% YTD
May 2007: 63,790
May 2006: 55,316
Dodge Ram
154,143 +1.0% YTD
May 2007: 31,327
May 2006: 29,599
GMC Sierra
84,106 +3.9% YTD
May 2007: 19,467
May 2006: 17,756
Toyota Tacoma
77,127 +6.5% YTD
May 2007: 16,028
May 2006: 14,842
Toyota Tundra
61,113 +24.7% YTD
May 2007: 17,727
May 2006: 7,974
Ford Ranger
35,598 -13.3% YTD
May 2007: 9,608
May 2006: 9,628
Chevrolet Colorado
34,265 -5.4% YTD
May 2007: 7,408
May 2006: 8,368
Nissan Titan
28,668 -14.9% YTD
May 2007: 4,899
May 2006: 5,713
Nissan Frontier
28,326 -23.6% YTD
May 2007: 5,886
May 2006: 7,409
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Toyota Tundra 5.7 liter V-8 To replace engines Due to bad camshafts. That they Knew were Bad, back in February.
NICE.Yep nothing says quality like that.
Speaking of quality…Fords burning up due to the cruise control, even killing elderly women!
All joking aside, it sounds like these Fords can start on fire, even without the engine running and a cold engine. That is a little scary. I would hate to wake up in the middle of the night because the cruise control on my truck started my house on fire.
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Toyota Tundra 5.7 liter V-8 To replace engines Due to bad camshafts. That they Knew were Bad, back in February.
NICE.Yep nothing says quality like that.
And the problem was fixed in February. 25 cases and they want to recall all of them and replace your engine just in case. That right there speaks for itself.
–OR they could deny the problem for years, then suddenly blame the supplier and recall it then when the cost of the lawsuit is greater than the cost for the recall.
They all have problems, it’s how they handle them that makes the difference.
And more!
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Ford says it has spent $1 billion on repairs and recalls to fix problems with legacy 6.0-liter Power Stroke diesel engines the 6.4-liter replaced.
Now that is Ford Quality!
1st Toyota admits to an issue and IS FIXING IT!!!! Ever hear of GM piston knock/slap…google it! How many Dodge trannys go out a year???? Have you driven a Ford lately??? Seriously, until you drive a newer Toyota and own one don’t bash them, they make a good product. Yes this will hurt them but at least they are taking care of the customers. More than GM will do for its own employees. My 02 sequoia will 65k has been in the shop less than my Dad’s 2006 silverado…..both good trucks, things happen.
Dodge Tranny’s ? Are you stuck in the 80’s ? LIFETIME warranty…. nuff said….
big g
Agreed, Dodge is building one helluva a truck these days, have owned three 3/4 tons for my business and never had major problems. Also need to note that Toyota still only offers a 1/2 ton as far as I have seen, doesn’t work to well when hauling big loads in the bed.
Lets face it, most people who buy pickups don’t even look at Toyota. Most of the die hard American buyers are truck owners and that is fine. I just think this is a ridiculous post being a GM tech I see a lot of common/cheap issues that WILL NEVER BE HANDLED correctly……steering shaft clunks anyone??? Yet another “new” design that will fail is out once again…………..I think Toyota’s biggest downfall is Bad Dealers, at least in my area, Milwaukee.
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Oh yeah, my dad is bigger than your dad.
So what, my brother can beat up your brother.
I don’t think many Domestic guys on this site are going to go Toyota, and vice versa. But I guess with out politics to argue about, we gotta find something.
Maybe we should start talking about fuel prices again?
went up .08 today, just great, glad the 4-stroke johzuki gets good mileage!!!
I started a Methane factory after supper last night. Plan on bottling some of that stuff one of these days………………………
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