Sorry I should have worded it correctly there is a reason BRP does not make a 4-stroke in the larger engines
No Need to as stated before.
June 23, 2007 at 3:27 pm
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Sorry I should have worded it correctly there is a reason BRP does not make a 4-stroke in the larger engines
No Need to as stated before.
It will be interesting to see how far all the motor manufacturers push the horsepower race. I’ve caught chatter about a 325 Verado and would assume that BRP won’t be far behind with a 300+ offering. These mega-sized motors don’t really mean anything to us freshwater anglers but for the saltwater guys that don’t have space on their transoms for multiple outboards one of these single monster outboards would be just the ticket.
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I’m not sure what you’d put it on…. this thing is a 5.3 liter V8!
How about in my Jimmy !!!
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Hey James
Like you said before unless you have first hand experience don’t chime in here.and Chris I believe if I look back a few years I will find a ton of posts by you saying that Mercury was the best motor on earth. Then Evinrude was the Best thing on Earth and now Yamaha.
Chris I believe you even bragged about that after fishing Mil lacs or is that forgotten already as well
just my 2cents
I find it amusing how you show up here to ridcule and ride people who are asking legitimate questions about people’s experiences with a certain motor. You always seem to show up and start offering insults and offer little or no tangible information to the subject. Usually you blow in out of the woodwork to fan flames and leave. It appears this post is no different.
I have had many personal experiences with a lot of motors. So have many people here. I have shared the good, bad and ugly of all my motors. I have no problem with the E-TEC technology and have stated it many times. If you read my posts, I said my issue with E-TEC is with how BRP and some dealers are treating customers who are having issues. I have had good and bad luck with a wide variety of motors. You can think what you want of me and my reporting of the various motors on the market. Your personal opinion of me matters very little in the larger scheme of things.
I wish you well, have fun with your motor. I am sure it is the best one on the planet.
For what its worth. I own a 2000 75 hp evenrude ficht. I beleive its the last year or the second to the last year they made ficht’s Its never “blown up”, its great on oil and gas, and it has been very reliable. Etec’s are even better on oil and gas. I keep doing “research” but as it stands right now, My next motor will be an etec.
I was anti E tech when they first came out. My dad bought a new Alumancraft with a 90 hp e tech on the back. And all I can say from the first time out is ………Nice ride plenty of power and giddy up go………very quiet……trolled all day and the gas gauge never moved……..
The Reason I am not on this board much is because of this very reason.
I was contacted and informed about this post and told that yourself and James were riding my father on my behalf. and after reading thru the posts that is what I had read and personally I thought it was childish and rude to treat someone who does donate so much of his time to this board like that.
as far as my E-tec goes yes it is a great motor and anyone who is intersted in learning more about one or thinking of buying one give me a call 507-251-9660 and I will answere any questions i can or set up a time to take mine out and show you first hand experience.
Where did that come from??????
Your father had nothing to do with what I said.
You are correct Lip….. I’ll state the numbers in the future and let everyone compare to there own numbers. I was just trying to throw my numbers out there so people could see how efficient the E-tec 2 stroke is. It may not be apples to apples but the only thing I’m able to compare it to was my older (98)75H Mariner. Sorry !!
If anybody has numbers on new models and would like to share I’d like to see them.
Whatsa
I had to change the plugs last fall in my 75 E-Tec 187 hour on her when she ate her first plugs. Is that acceptable……seems a little early to me but…..but I still very happy with the fuel and oil consumption. They did say they have a new plug that they are putting in them now that is supposed to increase plug life….time will tell.
Whatsa
ALL motors should have the lower unit oil changed once a year preferably in the fall before putting it away to check for water that may have infiltrated through a bad lower unit seal. Have one freeze and crack the casing and you will never not change it again!
I pay 75 bucks for an oil change on my 4 stroke at the dealer, if I buy the stuff at the dealer and do it my self I am about 40 bucks. I change the oil once a year.
I am VERY curious what you E-tec guys pay for oil. My brother has a 150Etec and he goes through 3 gallons a year that is about 90 bucks in oil..
The E-tec does have a break in period but the motors computer handles all of it for you. Who cares about break-in anyway, I care how the motor is going to run long term. Do all of you “break in” your car and truck motors as directed by the MFG?
If you own an etec and have not replaced your plugs in 2 years you are missing a lot of performance that you had when the motor was new. My brother replaces his every year and the electrodes are considerably worn and the gaps are MUCH larger. Could you regap them and get some more time? Yes but why? Just replace them these motors eat plugs!
All you e-tec people should include your warranty service, Software updates as maintenance. My brothers boat has been in the shop 6 times in 3 years for warranty service. It did not cost him anything, and was not scheduled maintenance but it was time off the water.
I Have a 2004 Suzuki/Johnson four stroke 140 and it has been in the shop once since new for a fuel related problem. I just replaced my first set of plugs myself this year and I probably could have gone several more.. Other than that I take it in once a year for oil change and Lower unit oil change and 4-1 fuel stabilizer just before I put it up for the winter. The last few years I have done this my self it takes all of a half hour..
The Etec motors do not troll as efficiently as the 4 strokes. Your oil consumption will go up. And yes you can troll all day without the gage moving but I can troll for day’s without the gage moving.
You guys on here have got to stop comparing your old motors to the new motors there is no comparison. The new ones regardless of brand should be more reliable, cleaner burning, and use less gas and oil. The other thing is you guys that have had 3 Etecs are clearly richer than I as you are upgrading boats frequently. If you only have the motor for a year, what the heck do you know about it other than it was only in the shop 2 times in a year.
The Yamaha guys know the beef with their motor as well. It is a Heavy 4 stroke but performs well.. Weight is the biggest problem with them..
I have said this several times in other posts that you cannot compare 2 stroke and 4 stroke motors on a level playing field. Motors of equal HP will always “perform” better as a 2 stroke. There is less inertia as they don’t have valvetrains, and they have a power stroke every 2 strokes and the 4 strokes only have a power stroke 1 in 4 strokes. So of course they build RPM and torque faster and with less moving parts. This is why they are excellent small engines, performance per weight is very high… However, have you ever driven a 2 stroke car?
This is because the 4 stroke motors are much more refined, reliable and cleaner burning than the 2 strokes and the added weight in a car is irrelevant. The modern HP engines are all bordering on car size. Put an hour meter on your truck and see how many hours you get between tuneups, oil changes ect.. if you put 10,000 miles on your truck in a year and your average speed is 50 miles an hour you would put 200 hours on your truck.. Compare that to your boat and it should be similar.. Now compare all maintenance warranty service ect..
My Johnson Suzuki weighs 410 Lbs. I don’t need or have to fill an oil tank and I get a GPS 47MPH on my 1800 fisherman. My brother has the 150 E-tec and he is running 51 on the same boat. He is also not getting the gas mileage I am. He will beat me to plane and slowly pull ahead of me but I am NEVER the one that has to stop for gas. And I have towed his boat in more than once. Mine has NEVER been towed. I will never own anything but a Suzuki Motor they may be just a tick slower but absolutely bulletproof! I will take the reliability over a couple mils an hour or a half second getting on plane any day!!
One other thing.. at 30 bucks a gallon for the oil and a 100:1 mixture you are adding 30 cents to every gallon of gas you purchase. During “break in” it is 60cents..
I pay $28.47 for a gallon of the XD 100 and went through about 1 1/2 gallon in a year.
Still happy with my E-tec
Whatsa
So about the same as my dealer oil change then?
nothing “wrong” with the etecs but they have some issues as well…
Was changing plugs on my E tech about once a year. Thought that was a little excessive.
If anyone is looking at an E-TEC or considering one, I have been running them for 4 years now and could not be happier with the motor. If anyone is looking for info, DVD’s etc on E-TEC motors send me and email or PM and I will send you the info. It is free to you!
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