Student Project: MN and the Two Line Law

I would not have a problem with Mille Lacs and other lakes that are netted by Indian tribes excluded from 2 lines. The netting puts a lot of extra pressure on the fishery.

-J.

I am with JLDII and Gary..

1. Are you for or against this bill why or why not?

In it’s present form which is pretty cut dry and would result in every angler being able to use an additional line “2 total” on every body of water including slot limit lakes all rivers and streams I’d have to say I am against it.

But with certain modifications I’d favor it.

2. Do you think that poaching will increase due to this law, if passed?

Yes but only marginally, one of the most common Fishing violations is fishing with too many lines so the guys that throw an extra line out “real common” will now have 3 lines out versus 2 lines.

3. If passed, would you use this “extra Line”?

Yes.

I have not posted much on this forum, or others, so take this as a grain of salt.

1. I do not like the idea of 2 lines. Yes, everyone else allows multiple lines, but ask yourselves what makes Minnesota waters a fishing hot spot. I do fish open waters much more than hard, and I fish more than I post. I can just see anglers slow trolling Muskies while throwing for Bass. Don’t Like It.

2. Like everyone else, poachers will be poachers. It maybe a little harder for the boy’s patrolling to decipher.

3. Sometimes, drifting with the 12 yr. old, I might have another line in….but for me it not all about catching fish at that point. I think fishing is more than catching fish.

regards,
Dan

I’m in favor of two lines. We are allowed two lines in the winter, why not summer.

Limit laws protect the harvest. I do not think most people would even use two lines.

I would use two lines when trolling boards and thats about it.

I live in Minnesota. Making my living in the Minnesota fishing business for over 40 years.

I am against changing the rules to allow two line fishing in MN.

I doubt poaching will be changed significantly more or less with ANY change.

No, I will not use two lines per person in my boat because “others” do it.

I agree with Jack!

None of the reasoning for support here is “sound”. You guys preach conservation and want to kill more fish with this and be more productive fishermen. Fact is your TOO productive now!!!!!!

If the other states have it does that make them right? So—then let’s have hunting laws (because other states have it) that allow uncased loaded guns in your trucks and shooting from the roads. Heck…let’s have walleye season open year around! (others have it)

Quit talking with folked tongue. YOU sound like “others” that net Mille Lacs walleyes and are “protectors of the resourses”.

I wasn’t gonna weigh-in on this as many of you have read Outdoor News lately and know how brother Joe feels about and THINKS about this. I echo his THINKING!(on this subject) And will not debate it on this forum….just offering my THINKING.

This is the kind of answer I spoke of in my original post. This “discussion” always turns into an argument. Now the people in favor are told they are not THINKING and speak with a forked tongue.

No disrespect to you Mr Fellegy, but there are some “thinkers” on the other side as well

I’m glad the Mille Lacs guys weighed in!

Personally, I was for it…because of the waters and type of fish I fish for can, in my none professional opinion, handle it. Pool 4…St Croix.

What I’m seeing is that everyone looks at this law from where they and how they fish…including myself.

With the eye opening opinions from the Big Pond guys…I’m going to have to back off my broad paint brush “yes” and say I agree with Jon Jordan. There are some lakes that this law won’t help…to what extent, I don’t know enough biology to make an informed decision.

Thanks for everyones responses! I’m thinking Marys going to have a good mix for her paper!

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I live in Minnesota. Making my living in the Minnesota fishing business for over 40 years.

I am against changing the rules to allow two line fishing in MN.

I doubt poaching will be changed significantly more or less with ANY change.

No, I will not use two lines per person in my boat because “others” do it.

I agree with Jack!

None of the reasoning for support here is “sound”. You guys preach conservation and want to kill more fish with this and be more productive fishermen. Fact is your TOO productive now!!!!!!

If the other states have it does that make them right? So—then let’s have hunting laws (because other states have it) that allow uncased loaded guns in your trucks and shooting from the roads. Heck…let’s have walleye season open year around! (others have it)

Quit talking with folked tongue. YOU sound like “others” that net Mille Lacs walleyes and are “protectors of the resourses”.

I wasn’t gonna weigh-in on this as many of you have read Outdoor News lately and know how brother Joe feels about and THINKS about this. I echo his THINKING!(on this subject) And will not debate it on this forum….just offering my THINKING.

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I’m going to take a wild guess and say this poster has never taken any logic courses…

Personal insults (“speaks with forked tongue”) are at best sleazy, and not exactly a “sound” argument.

I’m looking for the evidence to back this postion up, and I don’t see any–that’s not very “sound”.

If fishing increases mortality (and I acknowledged this possibility in my own reply), then why not make all state fisheries CR only?

This post equivocates fishing with killing fish, and the two are not the same thing. The DNR figures mortality rates in to their limits, and if tighter bag limits make up for increased mortality, then there should be no problem with allowing two lines on open water.

On that note, I am curious if two lines should, by this “sound” logic, be banned on the ice in Minnesota as well. Or, should live bait be banned, since it probably results in higher fish mortality rates?

Bringing in other states’ hunting regulations is a false analogy, since hunting, where killing the game is by definition necessary, and fishing, are not the same thing. Bringing up road-hunting is also a disguised personal attack, since it equates fishing with two lines to shooting game from a vehicle, something many hunters, myself included, oppose.

There are valid reasons for opposing the two-lines on open water; I named one in my first post on this thread. However, I don’t see any of them in the quoted thread, which is a jumble of slurs and mis-information. Making a living off a public resource does not make one an expert on that resource.

How will this kill more fish ? If I spend 3 hours on the water with 2 lines or 6 hours with one line ? I guess my reasoning is this. Just because something has been one way or the other forever, does not mean it shouldn’t be changed or at least addressed. These are opinions, a young lady asked for and I guess I wouldn’t have given mine, if I was gonna be wrong.

big g

Guys, let’s remember this is a student project.

By the way Vikefan…

Many, many people consider Mr. Fellegy and expert on Mille Lacs.

While I agree with you Briank that Mr. Fellegy is an expert on Mille Lacs and walleyes for that matter I based my response as I thought this question was on all Minnesota waters and all species. I would agree, it may not work for every lake, stream and river in the states, but that was not the question posed at this time. First and foremost, lets keep it civil, so a High school senior can actually use this survey.

big g