Locator advice

  • fishman1
    Dubuque, Iowa
    Posts: 1030
    #1253687

    I’m looking to replace the locator on my front trolling motor and would appreciate any input from the membership. I have 2 Eagle locators and have been mostly satisfied with them. The front one is around 15 years old and has seen better days. I use the front one the most since I primarily sit up front running my trolling motor while walleye fishing. I’m not locked into buying another Eagle. I don’t need all the bells and whistles such as GPS. I’m looking to spend up to say $200 to $300 on the unit. I use the front locator mostly for depth readings. Would I be better off looking at flashers? I’m looking for suggestions and expertice.

    Thanks in advance.

    Eyehunter

    Fireash911
    Holmen, WI.
    Posts: 160
    #542332

    Get a hold of Wade at Jolly Ann Marine – he will set you up with what you want

    bill_cadwell
    Rochester, Minnesota
    Posts: 12607
    #542340

    Wade is the man to buy from as great service and no sales tax and no shipping charge. If you want black and white take a look at the Eagle Fishmark 480. If you want color then Wade will know which unit is best in that price range.
    Thanks, Bill

    gary_wellman
    South Metro
    Posts: 6057
    #542347

    By going through Wade, you will have to pay sales tax because you are from Iowa. Non-residents of Iowa do not have to pay sales tax when ordering from Wade.

    nick
    Lakeville, MN
    Posts: 4977
    #542351

    If you biggest concern is depth, a flasher would be perfect, I used my lX3 on the bow of my boat for years, not to metion the ability to mark fish that are right below you in real time, unlike a graph. Then you got a great finder for winter, assuming we get ice again. Normally I ran my lx3 right in the ice pack off the battery, but the make the puck style transducers for the lx3’s too, Still I’d buy the ice kit and decided if you want to mount it semi permanant for summertime with the puck, no problems popping it back into the ice kit for winter.

    gary_wellman
    South Metro
    Posts: 6057
    #542361

    Nick;
    how much difference is there between the ping speed of a Marcum and the ping speed of an Eagle? Reason I ask is that does it make much of a difference for “real time”?

    fishman1
    Dubuque, Iowa
    Posts: 1030
    #542370

    Quote:


    By going through Wade, you will have to pay sales tax because you are from Iowa. Non-residents of Iowa do not have to pay sales tax when ordering from Wade.


    Gary,

    Paying sales taxes keeps the Great State of Iowa up and running. The only times you might find me complaining about having to pay sales taxes is when I purchase big ticket items. A good example was last week when I was down at the courthouse registering my new truck (actually used). They made me pay sales tax on it. I don’t know if you are required to pay sales tax on used vehicles up in Minnesota or Wisconsin but they make you do it down here in Iowa. It didn’t used to be that way. When I bought my boat several years ago I did not have to pay sales tax on it but they now require it.

    Eyehunter

    fishman1
    Dubuque, Iowa
    Posts: 1030
    #542373

    Quote:


    If you biggest concern is depth, a flasher would be perfect, I used my lX3 on the bow of my boat for years, not to metion the ability to mark fish that are right below you in real time, unlike a graph. Then you got a great finder for winter, assuming we get ice again. Normally I ran my lx3 right in the ice pack off the battery, but the make the puck style transducers for the lx3’s too, Still I’d buy the ice kit and decided if you want to mount it semi permanant for summertime with the puck, no problems popping it back into the ice kit for winter.


    Nick,

    I am hesitant to make the jump from locator to flasher. I can’t explain why except that I have been comfortable using the locators. I primarily fish wingdams so a real time flasher would probably be my best option. I like to position my boat above the dam and knowing the depth in front of the dam at all times helps tremendously. My only experience with a flasher was fishing a tournament in a borrowed boat. I didn’t take the time to learn how to read the flasher right and I think I ended up spending more time messing with the flasher than I did fishing.

    Eyehunter

    wade_kuehl
    Northwest Iowa
    Posts: 6167
    #542378

    In that price range, I would look at this Garmin 250C . It’s a rare chance to get a color unit in that price range. The transducer is a dual purpose ducer that allows it to be used on the transom or on the trolling motor. The Eagle Fishmark 480 is another good choice in that range.

    matt_grow
    Albertville MN
    Posts: 2019
    #542475

    Quote:


    Isn’t the depth read in real time at the leading edge of the graph?


    Yes it is,….sorta. But when you’re watching the bottom or a jig move on a flasher its seems instantaneous.

    shaley
    Milford IA
    Posts: 2178
    #542479

    I went to a flasher on my bow last year and dont think I would switch back. Only reason I would go back is to combine GPS and Locator. I run my H20 next to my flaser now and works well.

    nick
    Lakeville, MN
    Posts: 4977
    #542491

    Well I’ll have to say I ran my 337 up front this past Wednesday, and there seems to be very little delay in the jig showing up on the screen, but the lowrance has, a hyperscroll mode, and I run my ping speed at 100 percent. Nearly as good as a flasher, for now I like the color, I like the gps capabilities, it may just stay up there, But they do go far more than the $200-300 range. Minn Kota does not make a universal transducer cable adapter for the LX3’s yet, though I have been pressuring Minn kota to make one, we’ll see.

    There is a considerable delay from what I’ve seen on a lot of units, it comes a lot in the form of the graph only moves so fast, so you lose some data in the time it takes to display the info on the screen, like I mentioned lowrance seemed to nip this in the butt a little with the hyperscroll and ping speeds, But I have a older fish 128 unit that you can see an obvious delay in the feedback, and on days where the fish are not just smashing everything in front of them, the little delay seems to hurt. My flasher up front has been fish in the boat time and time again for me, the ability to instantly see how fish are reacting to your bait seems to help, I never doubt my flasher, if I see a fish moving it’s moving on my flasher the same speed the fish is underwater, in short nothing short of a camera, give faster feedback, I can’t even count the number of times I’ve marked a fish and dropped my jig by them only to catch the fish seconds later. Works awesome on deeper wing dams

    The Garmin that came with my boat would not scroll fast enough to accurately display the info as fast as I wanted it, Heck I think it was more transducer related, but IMHO it was useless (It’s still for sale )

    I suppose it’s all in how you use your electronics, I’m kind of a tech junkie, so I used them a lot, I like to play with them, and I want the best for my money, a flasher if you are looking mainly for depth with give you very fast feedback, and a great ability to see how fish react to your baits if you are close enough to see a jig in the cone angle. And I just think bang for the buck with the ability to use it in winter too, which you could do with a lcd graph too, You also get interference reduction with the flasher, which can be nice in some situation, though I don’t think you need it.

    Would a graph work good? I’m sure it would, Are you going to lose fish are not catch as many without, probably not. I just wanted to put forth the flasher argument, I think it’s a great bang for the buck factor.

    Anyone can learn to use a flasher in mere minutes, I’ve never met a person who couldn’t use one. You may spend a little more than the budget, but I think the year round usability makes it more desirable.

    Of course all in my opinion, just don’t be afraid to at least look at it as an option.

    edit: The cone angle still doesn’t allow you to see some leading edges on depth changes but it does seem to move a little faster. Same as the graph, really, but it “seems” to be a a lesser issue with flashers you could argue it either way, realistically it around the same as a fast moving graph, IMHO.

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