Well after hearing blah blah blah about how the bears have only played easy and crappy teams so far this year I guess last night was the big test and OH what happened????? The giants got SPANKED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So I know for a fact now they are the BEST in the NFC along with the central divison and they still have the BEST defense in the NFL 
They are the best, depending on which panties Grossman decides to put on in the morning.
That is not saying a whole lot… 
big g 
Congrats-they beat a team with eight starters missing and struggled for most of the first half. I believe Denver stat’s wise still has the top ranked defense. Don’t get me wrong the Bears are a very good team probably the best in the NFC but if the wrong Grossman shows up on Sunday they are beatable, especially against a good team in the play-offs.
Are you trying to say you thought the Giants are who you thought they were? You wanna crown’em, go head and crown thier [censored]. But they lettem off the hook.
oh i love all of the excuses have to be viking and packer fans for sure. You can trash talk them all you want but just remember who has the best record in the NFC that is all that matters.
You should have lost to Arizona and then get beat by Joey Harrington and Miami?? I wouldn’t brag too much. The competition it the NFC is weak at best.
The true test of how good they are will be against the Pats. And I wouldn’t base a season on one game. You really can’t brag about anyone in the central’s schedule being tough.
They had a pretty good record last year also if I remember, just cant remember how far they got in the playoffs, anyone out there remember gosh this is going to bug me all night. 
I’m still waiting for all the die-hard Bear fans to explain what happened last weekend at Soldier Field against the Miami Dolphins and their all-world starting QB Joey Harrington. I guess I just missed that thread. I mean, those devoted Bear fans wouldn’t just hide under a rock when their Super Bowl shoo-in/lock for 16-0 team laid a huge egg at home against one of the worst teams in the AFC. 
Maybe the Bears just had another “bad day”.
Seems Miami shut down a pretty good KC team this week, I have Larry Johnson on my fantasy team and he didn’t do very good, I’m a big Bears fan but I’m still waiting to see which Grossman is going to show up, and which offensive line. At times they look unstoppable, and the next game they look like they could be beat by the Vikings, or Packers.
I’m going to take it one week at a time and see what happens come Jan. If they don’t make it, it’ll mean more time on the ice for me!!!! 
Ed
Hey honda75, when did your location change to Illinois?
Ed
What do i need to explain they lost to miami big deal. Explain to me why minn. lost to the packers, the bears, and so on and so forth other than they SUCK!!!!! The bears lost to miami as well in 1985 and then WON the superbowl of course you minn. fans wouldn’t know what a superbowl win is like.
Quote:
What do i need to explain they lost to miami big deal. Explain to me why minn. lost to the packers, the bears, and so on and so forth other than they SUCK!!!!! The bears lost to miami as well in 1985 and then WON the superbowl of course you minn. fans wouldn’t know what a superbowl win is like.
The Bears are fielding a good team this year no doubt about it. But when you start talking about winning superbowls you are talking about the best team in the NFL not just the NFC. I don’t think the Bear are on par with the elite in the AFC. In fact I would rank them fifth or even sixth in the NFL. Indy, Denver, New England, and San Diego would be the top four. I am not sure whether I would put the Bears or Baltimore at fifth.
In any case it is a shame the Giants were so beat up this weekend or we would have seen a better game.
Quote:
What do i need to explain they lost to miami big deal. Explain to me why minn. lost to the packers, the bears, and so on and so forth other than they SUCK!!!!! The bears lost to miami as well in 1985 and then WON the superbowl of course you minn. fans wouldn’t know what a superbowl win is like.
And I thought only Packer fans fell back on the “Lombardi Trophy defense” when backed in to a corner.
I’m just curious about why certain Bear fans seem to show up when their team wins, but are nowhere to be found when they lose. I guess that Chicago bandwagon rides pretty close to the ground, judging by the way Bear fans get on and off it from week to week.
Running for cover after a Bears loss like that to a 1-6 Miami squad helps Bear fans avoid explaining losses to bad teams led by Detroit Lion castoffs. The 1985 Bears loss to Miami has nothing to do with anything–that team was QB’d by Dan Marino, not Joey Harrington. I didn’t see Don Shula on the Dolphins sideline while Rex Grossman threw multiple interceptions, either.
I’m also waiting to hear why “the best team in the NFC” had to sqeak out wins against the Vikings and Cardinals, who aren’t very good and just plain bad, respectively. For “the best team in the NFC” those are a lot of “bad days”. I guess Raider fans can take solace since their team isn’t really bad, according to this argument–they have just had a bunch of “bad days” like the Bears allegedly had against the Cardinals and Vikings.
Basically, if the Bears are as good as certain Bears fans say, then the Vikings and Cardinals (“the BEST team the Bears have played” according to one Bears fan) must be very good as well to have played Chicago so tough. If the Vikings and Cardinals aren’t very good, then it doesn’t say much for the Bears if they had to work to beat them.
But hey, I am sure that explanation will make more sense than those I heard a month ago when certain Bear fans were proclaiming their team “the best in the NFL”. Losing at home to a bad Miami team proves my point, which is that the Bears are over-hyped and boast a record and stats inflated by playing an easy schedule.
Forget the 1985 Bears–this year’s squad is a team in the mold of the 2001 Bears. Check how they did in the playoffs after gaining a first-round bye from an inflated win-loss record. My prediction is that the Eagles, who play outdoors in a tough city, will knock the Bears out of the NFC playoffs in January, just like Carolina did last year.
Oh yeah? Go Bronco’s 
Sorry, I just had to throw that in there 
I could care less about the Pack, the Vike’s. or Da Bears. Just as long as Denver keeps on keeping on, I am a happy camper 
viking fan i am sorry you can’t brag about your team and haven’t been able to for well ever but hey maybe someday they will make the playoffs again and maybe just maybe win a superbowl instead of loose them.
Quote- I’m just curious about why certain Bear fans seem to show up when their team wins, but are nowhere to be found when they lose. I guess that Chicago bandwagon rides pretty close to the ground, judging by the way Bear fans get on and off it from week to week.
It’s the same bandwagon the Sox fans ride on.
Honda you would do much better telling us how your team will do before the game rather then after the game. But then I’ll admit it’s much easier to do it your way.
I was the first (but not the last) to say the Vikings suck this year. I’m also the first to say SOX fans are front runners and now I can add the Bear fan (honda75) to the list also.
Impress me and tell me how the Bears will do against the Jets & Patriots.
I’ve been a Bears fan since the “70’s” and I think they’ll beat the Jets, but not sure against the Patriots 
. Depends on which defense, and quaterback decides to show up . Either way it has been an up and down saeson so far, but enjoyable!!!
Ed
Quote:
I’ve been a Bears fan since the “70’s” and I think they’ll beat the Jets, but not sure against the Patriots
Ed
You’re stand-up, ederd. The real fans stick around win or lose, and own up when their teams stink.
Quote:
viking fan i am sorry you can’t brag about your team and haven’t been able to for well ever
Yup, this is the “Lombardi Trophy defense”–the Bear fan in question cannot explain why the Bears are “the best in the NFC” when they “loose” to the Dolphins at home, so they ignore the question by falling back on the Super Bowl. Apparently, the Vikings having never won a Super Bowl somehow explains why “the best team in the NFC” needed late breaks to beat Arizona and Minnesota, who are not very good teams. The Vikings’ Super Bowl losses of thirty-plus years ago also somehow explains why it does not matter that “the best team in the NFC” lost at home to a 1-6 team led by Joey Harrington last week.
It was the Bear fan in question who criticized people for saying “the Bears haven’t played any good teams”…after that same Bear fan said repeatedly that the Vikings (and Packers) were a terrible team. As I have said before, if the Vikings are a terrible team (and I have freely admitted that they aren’t very good), then by the Bear fan in question’s logic the Bears aren’t all that good if they have to work to beat the Vikings.
I am also waiting to see if the Bear fan in question will issue a prediction about how the Bears will do against the Patriots. The Bears could win that game, although I wouldn’t bet on it. If I thought the Bears were indeed “the best team in the NFC” I wouldn’t be afraid to say up-front that I expect them to win. I guess the Bear fan in question doesn’t believe “the best team in the NFC” can beat the Patriots…but then, the Patriots are an AFC team.
One of the best games on TV this past weekend was the Vikes and the Pack…
no matter who you were pullin for and no matter what their records were…it was a fun game to watch
If the trend continues with the way the Bears have been approaching games(i.e.not showing up against teams they should beat like the Cards and Phins)they will lose to the Jets and beat the Patriots. If I was a betting man though I’d say they’ll beat the Jets and lose to the Pats. Lets not forget though that after this east-coast swing is over they’ve still got the Vikings(home), Rams(away), and Bucs(home) waiting for them the next three games. None of these games will be gimme’s especially with the way the defense is being run on lately. They could easily end the regular season with four losses especially if they clinch home field advantage for the playoffs and sit the starters 12/31 against the Pack. I’ll be at that game though so, in a way, I’d love to have them need to win to clinch the bye. The Pack would have a chance to be spoilers and add on the fact that it might be Favre’s last game at Soldier Field….it doesn’t get any better than that, does it?
Go Bears!
vike fan according to your reasoning of the bears not being good because of struggling against bad teams makes very little sense the way the nfl is today. any team on any given sunday is definitly true and according to your logic the colts are no good because they only beat tenn. and buffalo by one point each, denver is no good because they struggled with oakland, new england is no good because they lost to the jets, and baltimore is no good because they had to come from behind to beat tenn. by one. the bears have played 2 contenders this year(seatle and ny) and stepped up against both of them. i do believe they are right close to being tops in the nfc, in the nfl however i think we are a couple years away from overtaking the afc. if they lose to the jets they will beat n.e., if they beat the jets they will lose to n.e. 1-1 for the next 2 games after that they win out except for a loss in st louis on mon night they never play good on mon nights
i should have read down farther before replying to vike fan bantam beat me to the prediction. got any extra tickets for the game
I’ll keep my ears open for you, den, but I can’t imagine that there will be any floating around for that game!!
vike fan???????????????????? You make no sense at all but anyway. Bears by at least 7 against the pats.
The bears can’t be all the bad, they can come from a defecet and win the game by 18. Their quartback is pretty much having his rookie season…… HMMMM Not to bad for a rookie. Actually this past sunday was his 16th nfl start…… Alot better quarterback rating than most nfl quarterbacks. Trash talk all you want but what other team can pull themselves back together after being down in the first half and pull through and come on top and win?????? Let me know MR. KNOW IT ALL VIKING FAN….. YOU ARE THE GOD OF FOOTBALL LET ME TELL YOU. 
Quote:
vike fan according to your reasoning of the bears not being good because of struggling against bad teams makes very little sense the way the nfl is today. any team on any given sunday is definitly true and according to your logic the colts are no good because they only beat tenn. and buffalo by one point each, denver is no good because they struggled with oakland, new england is no good because they lost to the jets, and baltimore is no good because they had to come from behind to beat tenn. by one. the bears have played 2 contenders this year(seatle and ny) and stepped up against both of them. i do believe they are right close to being tops in the nfc, in the nfl however i think we are a couple years away from overtaking the afc. if they lose to the jets they will beat n.e., if they beat the jets they will lose to n.e. 1-1 for the next 2 games after that they win out except for a loss in st louis on mon night they never play good on mon nights
Some Bear fans were popping up after every Bears win to proclaim them “the best team in the NFC” and a lock to go 16-0. That latter argument is gone, but I have said repeatedly that the Bears were not unstoppable, and I never for one moment believed they would go un-defeated when they struggled against mediocre teams like Minnesota and horrible teams like Arizona (not to mention Miami). I have said in other threads that the Bears are the best team in the division, but I was not and am not convinced they are the “best team in the NFC”. They have beaten one good team (the Giants), and that good team was suffering some real injury issues. A better test for the Bears will be New England, and there is no doubt in my mind “the best team in the NFC” will be exposed for what they are–a good defense with a mediocre offense.
I was not saying the Bears were not a good team, as you allege–I was criticizing the argument made that they were the best team in the NFC. In particular I was criticizing a certain Bear fan for saying the Bears were the best team in the NFL. At the same time, this Bears fan kept saying the Vikings were a terrible team. If you had taken the time to read my posts on this and other threads you would see that I was asking a certain Bears fan to explain this and other shaky (at best) arguments. This particular Bear fan’s only argument is “the Vikings have never won a Super Bowl” when asked to explain how the Bears can be so much better than the Vikings, and yet needed a late turnover to beat a poor Vikings squad. What Indianapolis has to do with my criticism of the Bear fan in question’s reasoning is unclear to me.
If you want to discuss the “any given Sunday” argument and the narrowness of the gap between good and bad teams, take it up with the Bear fan in question, who has repeatedly showed up after Bears wins (while being completely MIA after the MIA game) to trumpet their virtues while not acknowledging their inconsistencies. The Bear fan in question will never predict how the Bears will do before a game, but is always the first to show up afterward claiming a narrow Bears win somehow makes the Bears the class of the league.
In that vein, I will say that if the Bears beat the Patriots and Jets they are among the best in the NFL. I am not expecting that to happen though. I am expecting that if the Bears lose, we will hear nothing from the Bears fan in question.
[quote(
Some Bear fans were popping up after every Bears win to proclaim them “the best team in the NFC” and a lock to go 16-0. That latter argument is gone, but I have said repeatedly that the Bears were not unstoppable, and I never for one moment believed they would go un-defeated when they struggled against mediocre teams like Minnesota and horrible teams like Arizona (not to mention Miami). I have said in other threads that the Bears are the best team in the division, but I was not and am not convinced they are the “best team in the NFC”. They have beaten one good team (the Giants), and that good team was suffering some real injury issues. A better test for the Bears will be New England, and there is no doubt in my mind “the best team in the NFC” will be exposed for what they are–a good defense with a mediocre offense.
Here it is again excuses on why they won oh because the giants had injuries well so did the bears keep them coming…….. This is funny.
It’s looking to me like the Packers are the team to beat. They are really coming on strong!!
Quote:
Trash talk all you want but what other team can pull themselves back together after being down in the first half and pull through and come on top and win?????? Let me know MR. KNOW IT ALL VIKING FAN….. YOU ARE THE GOD OF FOOTBALL LET ME TELL YOU.
Actually the Chargers were down by about 30 points at half and put up over 40 in the second half!
You must be logged in to reply to this topic.
