Sheepshead get a bad rap

  • sheepheadmaster
    Posts: 17
    #1250501

    Natureboy claims that sheepshead get a bad rap and are not bad for the river system. Just wanted to test the water and see what people’s reactions are to this nincumpoop.

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59988
    #453431

    Welcome to the site guys!

    Good first post….

    My close personal friend Chappy is having a 10 lbs walleye mounted. Our own online taxidermist Jack opened er up the other day and found an 8 inch sheepie in her tummy.

    Although flatheads don’t care for sheepies…they do like walleyes…and we always can use walleye food….

    So in that respect…no, nincumpoop might not work in this case.

    farmboy1
    Mantorville, MN
    Posts: 3668
    #453440

    Can I vote Yes he is a nincumpoop, but that I don’t think Sheephead are bad for the river

    Sorry couldn’t resist. Don’t even know the guy.

    I think any native fish cannot be bad for a system as they were here before we ever were, and are just filling a niche in the ecosystem. I say if anything Bass are bad for the ecosystem, that is why I eat every one I catch

    Wish I could find my Niche

    natureboy
    LaCrosse,WI
    Posts: 423
    #453446

    the biggest reason people do not like sheephead is because they think they eat bass and bluegill eggs. How is this possible of sheephead inhabit deep water, and prefer current. The opposite of spawning grounds

    BomberA
    Posts: 649
    #453449

    The only reason I don’t like sheephead is due to the false sense of security they give me everytime I set the hook on one and for those couple seconds where you think it’s the mother of alll smallies only to find out it’s a sheepy. I doubt they harm much besides my emotions though.

    fishman1
    Dubuque, Iowa
    Posts: 1030
    #453450

    Sheepshead or freshwater drum are an intergal part of the river eco system. They’ve been in there much longer than any of us. My father and his friends still keep the “drummers” once and a while for a meal. I ate plenty of these in my youth and if memory serves me right they weren’t half bad. Besides going after the BIG drummers with crawdads is a blast. When you hook into a 20 pounder it can take you 10 minutes to net it. Almost as fun as the very large flathead I hooked into last night. I’ve caught 30Lb plus flat heads before but this guy was much, much larger. I followed him with the boat for over 20 minutes and never got him more than a foot off of the bottom. He ended up wearing through my 30 Lb Spiderwire just above the jig head.

    Eyehunter

    bret_clark
    Sparta, WI
    Posts: 9362
    #453459

    In the spring I will keep a pile of sheepies to make pickled fish. I filet out just the backs and don’t keep any of the larger ones. The meat is white as snow a stays firm in the brine. I also deep fry the back filets, good stuff. I like the looks I get at the landing when I have a wire basket full of sheepies

    They are also very fun to catch. A 10+ pound sheepie will slam a trolled crank bait with authority

    fireman731
    Miles, Iowa
    Posts: 574
    #453476

    I read somewhere that sheepies eat zebra muscles

    VikeFan
    Posts: 525
    #453480

    Sheepshead are fine for rivers in the Midwest, where they are a native species that serves both as food fish for other more popular species, and as a control on exotic Zebra mussels. The presence of sheepshead does no harm to a lake or river, and removing them for the sake of removing them makes no sense.

    One thing especially annoys me: when I lived in Winona I did not have a boat, so my fishing took place from shore. Few things could ruin a summer fishing trip like a pile of sheepshead rotting in the sun. Not only are sheepshead not harmful to the river, which makes wasting them pointless, it is illegal to leave them on the bank to rot. (If someone wants to kill carp, a harmful exotic species, I say great, although I don’t bother doing so myself. Just don’t leave them on the bank to stink, either.)

    As for the eating qualities of the sheepshead, I ate quite a few when I was a kid. They are not terrible, but they aren’t the equal of walleye, either, whatever the Lacrosse paper said a few years ago. I haven’t eaten sheepshead in many years, and don’t see myself doing so any time soon.

    chappy
    Hastings, MN
    Posts: 4854
    #453522

    Quote:


    Welcome to the site guys!

    Good first post….

    My close personal friend Chappy


    Boy..Are you ever stepping out on a limb!

    love2fish
    Shoreview, Grand Rapids, MN
    Posts: 1024
    #453525

    Sorry NatureBoy I voted yes! Couldn’t help it. Even though no members of this site are nincumpoops. Love2Fish.

    vikefanmn77
    Northfield,MN
    Posts: 1493
    #453530

    My lord, Ive never heard as many people admit to eating that junk. I must say ive never tried them, but ive also never eaten from the toilet. Guess im a “fish snob”

    2Fishy4U
    Posts: 973
    #453543

    You hit the nail on the head — you are a fish snob.

    James Holst
    Keymaster
    SE Minnesota
    Posts: 18926
    #453568

    Every person I’ve ever talked to said sheepshead were “pretty good.”

    One of two things is going on.

    1) – They’re actually “pretty good.”

    2) – They’re so incredibly bad they’re trying to get someone, anyone, to try them so they can laugh at them like they got laughed at after they tried sheepshead.

    My guess is for #1.

    2Fishy4U
    Posts: 973
    #453569

    ditto, hope to meet you sometime. Reports from Pools 5A to 7 will be coming next week. You are the guy that told me to quit complaining about all the Pool 4 posts and report whatever I want.

    Thanks

    James Holst
    Keymaster
    SE Minnesota
    Posts: 18926
    #453570

    Quote:


    You are the guy that told me to quit complaining about all the Pool 4 posts and report whatever I want.

    Thanks


    Yup… guilt as charged. I enjoy reading your reports, as many do as well I’m sure, so keep ’em coming.

    This year’s summer GTG out of Everts is on the 15th. If you can be there the food and drinks are on me.

    2Fishy4U
    Posts: 973
    #453574

    James, a bit of a loner but wish I could make it. My son, daughter, his wife, etc, along with my German Shepherd and the kid’s Lab will be fishing Rainy Lake.

    Appreciate the invite,
    Chuck

    mossydan
    Cedar Rapids, Iowa
    Posts: 7727
    #453599

    Sheephead recepie,,,Cut up potatoes with skins left on, some celery, greenbeans and whatever and place on aluminum foil. Add spices and butter with a little olive oil or shortening and place fillets on top of other ingredients then put on the mayo or chive and onion chip dip over fillets. Fold foil and crimp edges and put over low coals at campfire. Make or buy some tarter sauce with long green onions and cottage cheese as a side and enjoy. I haven’t voted yet but that little devil on my shoulder wants me to say yes but im going to say no.

    walleye_wisdom
    Big Sky Country Helena, MT (Adel, IA home)
    Posts: 1160
    #453622

    I’ve had several people tell me they are good to eat, but it’s just like Carp in my eyes. I’d rather eat walleye, gills, or even pike, before any rough fish. But i guess sometime i should probably try it.

    bret_clark
    Sparta, WI
    Posts: 9362
    #453632

    Just like all game, it is how it is taken care of and prepared

    riverfan
    MN
    Posts: 1531
    #453638

    What do you think is in Mrs Pauls fish sticks? The commerical guys tell me they get good money for sheepies.

    sheepheadmaster
    Posts: 17
    #453661

    Quote:


    My lord, Ive never heard as many people admit to eating that junk. I must say ive never tried them, but ive also never eaten from the toilet. Guess im a “fish snob”


    I like this guy’s style. I’m originally from the appleton area, and I have never heard of anyone eating sheepshead until this. You all say sheepshead are good eating, but I’d be curious to see how often you actually eat them.

    bret_clark
    Sparta, WI
    Posts: 9362
    #453670

    Like I stated earlier, in the spring I use them for pickling and deep fry them at least 3 times a year.

    As far as people thinking they are just garbage fish, Thank you

    mossydan
    Cedar Rapids, Iowa
    Posts: 7727
    #453675

    I went to the river last night and the previous 3 and got a couple 1 1/2lb sheepies each night while jigging. I took them home and filleted them out. I”ve eaten the bigger ones and thier ok too. If you want an honest taste comparison to me its close to bass, not as good as crappies, bluegills and walleyes but its still good as many here say the same. It really isn’t a bad tasting fish that you have to learn to eat or develop the taste buds for. Its as good as catfish or bullheads, better than the rougher spiecies such as carp. I go to Moen’s fish market just north of harpers ferry a couple times a year and buy fillets at $1 a pound, especially just befor winter to carry me through for awhile, they got an undeserved reputataion and thier about as close to being a game fish as it comes without being one. Sheepies are ok.

    farmboy1
    Mantorville, MN
    Posts: 3668
    #453690

    The next time you run to the grocery store, take a look at their fresh fish department and look for Freshwater Drum. I think they are similar in price to the walleye fillets, but I know they are there.

    And anything goes down a little better with a couple

    dan-thiem
    Zumbro Falls Mn.
    Posts: 387
    #453713

    Sheepie ya say? Here’s my biggest so far. Only 7.6 pounds. I know there is bigger ones in the Mississippi down by Lacupolis.

    Jackofallspecies
    Andover, MN
    Posts: 43
    #453763

    Dan,
    You are totally holding a trophy there!! I don’t by what roll of the dice or by what twist of fate some fish were labled as top drawer and others as “trash”. I’m not here to argue with anyone ( I am glad to see some opinion based on facts and actual experience expressed here though). I am just here to voice my opinion that the fish Dan is holding has just about every attribute that is valued in any “game” fish and probably a few more to boot. And as far as having a negative impact on the fishery for other species, I guess I have never understood that one either… How many more walleyes per acre could you possibly squeeze into the Miss.? In spite of some extemely substantial year ’round fishing pressure, I don’t know of a fishery that compares- except maybe now Upper Red Lake-and guess what, there’s Sheepies in there too. I don’t wan’t to digress into a tirade. My hat’s off to anyone who pulls in a fish of that size of any species, particularly one that pulls like a sheep. I hope you enjoyed the experience.

    wade_kuehl
    Northwest Iowa
    Posts: 6167
    #453834

    I don’t take the time to clean them myself (too lazy) but my uncle Ray has hosted many a fish fry with sheepie as one of the main dishes. Cleaned and prepared properly, deep-fried, they are quite good.

    There’s a restraunt in Omaha, Nebraska (not sure if it’s other places) called Joe Tess’ Fish. They mainly serve Carp, scored and deep-fried. It’s got some herbs and spices to it as well. It’s also quite good and the place is generally packed.

    The fish that’s on my short list is the Rock Bass. Those little pest will not leave me alone while fishing eyes on MN lakes. I am pleading with ya’all to start keeping more Rock Bass. We’ve got to thin the herd.

    VikeFan
    Posts: 525
    #453849

    Quote:


    Dan,
    You are totally holding a trophy there!! I don’t by what roll of the dice or by what twist of fate some fish were labled as top drawer and others as “trash”. I’m not here to argue with anyone ( I am glad to see some opinion based on facts and actual experience expressed here though). I am just here to voice my opinion that the fish Dan is holding has just about every attribute that is valued in any “game” fish and probably a few more to boot. And as far as having a negative impact on the fishery for other species, I guess I have never understood that one either… How many more walleyes per acre could you possibly squeeze into the Miss.? In spite of some extemely substantial year ’round fishing pressure, I don’t know of a fishery that compares- except maybe now Upper Red Lake-and guess what, there’s Sheepies in there too. I don’t wan’t to digress into a tirade. My hat’s off to anyone who pulls in a fish of that size of any species, particularly one that pulls like a sheep. I hope you enjoyed the experience.


    Hmm, do you happen to have a length-to-weight conversion table for sheepshead? A few years ago I caught a 29″ sheepshead on Pool 6 while walleye fishing. I let it go, and didn’t have a scale with me, but I estimated it’s weight to be around eleven lbs.

    Fishing Machine
    Lansing, Ia
    Posts: 810
    #453856

    Sheephead are every bit as good as a walleye. It’s a matter of how they are taken care of. In the summer you have to keep them on plenty of ice. They turn soft very fast. Also I only keep the loin part down the back and trim off all fat. Can’t tell it from walleye once it is fried and on the platter to eat. It’s a bit courser meat is all.
    And nothing wrong with carp either if fixed right. I’ve ate and served a lot of carp in my day. Beats the heck out of salmon any day when it’s canned.

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