A Lesson in Acceleration

  • gary_wellman
    South Metro
    Posts: 6057
    #1249619

    For the engineer types among us…….fascinating stuff.

    A Lesson in Acceleration:

    First, some useful info:

    * One NHRA Top Fuel dragster 500 cubic inch Hemi engine makes more horsepower than all the cars in the first four rows at the Daytona 500.

    * Under full throttle, a Top Fuel dragster engine consumes 1 gallon of nitro methane per second; a fully loaded 747 consumes jet fuel at the same rate with 25% less energy being produced.

    * A stock Dodge 426 Hemi V8 engine cannot produce enough power to drive the dragster’s supercharger.

    * With 3000 CFM of air being rammed in by the supercharger on overdrive, the fuel mixture is compressed into a near-solid form before ignition.

    * Cylinders run on the verge of hydraulic lock at full throttle.

    * At the stoichiometric 1.7:1 air/fuel mixture for nitro methane the flame front temperature measures 7050 degrees F.

    * Nitro methane burns yellow. The spectacular white flame seen above the stacks at night is raw burning hydrogen, dissociated from atmospheric water vapor by the searing exhaust gases.

    * Dual magnetos supply 44 amps to each spark plug. This is the output of an arc welder in each cylinder.

    * Spark plug electrodes are totally consumed during a pass. After 1/2 way, the engine is dieseling from compression plus the glow of exhaust valves at 1400 degrees F. The engine can only be shut down by cutting the fuel flow.

    * If spark momentarily fails early in the run, unburned nitro builds up in the affected cylinders and then explodes with sufficient force to blow cylinder heads off the block in pieces or split the block in half.

    * In order to exceed 300 mph in 4.5 seconds dragsters must accelerate at an average of over 4G’s. In order to reach 200 mph well before half-track, the launch acceleration approaches 8G’s.

    * Dragsters reach over 300 miles per hour before you have completed reading this sentence.

    * Top Fuel Engines turn approximately 540 revolutions from light to light.

    * Including the burnout the engine must only survive 900 revolutions under load.

    * The redline is actually quite high at 9500 rpm.

    * The Bottom Line; assuming all the equipment is paid off, the crew worked for free, and if,for once NOTHING BLOWS UP, each run costs an estimated $1,000.00 per second. The current Top Fuel dragster elapsed time record is 4.441 seconds for the quarter mile (10/05/03, Tony Schumacher).

    * The top speed record is 333.00 mph (533 km/h) as measured over the last 66′ of the run (09/28/03 Doug Kalitta).

    Putting all of this into perspective for you bikers: You are riding the average $250,000 Honda MotoGP bike. Over a mile up the road, a Top Fuel dragster is staged and ready to launch down a quarter mile strip as you pass. You have the advantage of a flying start. You run the RC211V hard up through the gears and blast across the starting line and past the dragster at an honest 200 mph (293 ft/sec). The “tree” goes green for both of you at that moment. The dragster launches and starts after you. You keep your wrist cranked hard, but you hear an incredibly brutal whine that sears your eardrums and within 3 seconds the dragster catches and passes you. He beats you to the finish line, a quarter mile away from where you just passed him.

    Think about it, from a standing start, the dragster had spotted you 200 mph and not only caught, but nearly blasted you off the road when he passed you within a mere 1320 foot long race course.

    That, folks, is acceleration.

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #435732

    You getting a new boat Gary?

    trumar
    Rochester, Mn
    Posts: 5967
    #435736

    AS I follow drag racing very close I find those facts true and very interesting indeed, and ..did you know it cost a mere 1.8 million dollars to make just one pass in TOP FUELER.. That includes everything from puchasing the car to the actual end of the pass.. traveltrailer,fuel,tires,meals,drinks,clothes,the crew, and anything else it takes to get to the track and make ONE GOOD pass (no break downs)

    Staggo
    Posts: 36
    #435743

    The space shuttle go 17,000 mph,that 5 miles a second. At cost of $12,000 a pound, sorry I can’t recall the weight.

    putz
    Cottage Grove, Minn
    Posts: 1551
    #435750

    Amazing stuff, Gary. Thanks.

    matt_grow
    Albertville MN
    Posts: 2019
    #435763

    Quote:


    * Spark plug electrodes are totally consumed during a pass. After 1/2 way, the engine is dieseling from compression plus the glow of exhaust valves at 1400 degrees F. The engine can only be shut down by cutting the fuel flow.


    Wow. Cool Stuff

    Steve Root
    South St. Paul, MN
    Posts: 5623
    #435770

    Yea, that’s all well and good. But can you get a trailer hitch for one of those things?

    Rootski

    Steve Root
    South St. Paul, MN
    Posts: 5623
    #435775

    Quote:


    In order to exceed 300 mph in 4.5 seconds dragsters must accelerate at an average of over 4G’s. In order to reach 200 mph well before half-track, the launch acceleration approaches 8G’s.


    This is the part that blows me away. You can engineer a machine to do what a fueler has to do, but how many people can handle 8 g’s of acceleration ???? Much less have mongoose-like reflexes, incredible hand-eye coordination, and nerves of steel! The drivers of these machines are special human beings

    Rootski

    gary_wellman
    South Metro
    Posts: 6057
    #435778

    It has been stated that these drivers black out (loose conscientiousness during the 1/2 second to full second at the launch because of the g-force!

    walleye_wisdom
    Big Sky Country Helena, MT (Adel, IA home)
    Posts: 1160
    #435835

    do i need to humble you with acceleration facts from my 94 4cyl s-10?

    glb
    Twin Cities
    Posts: 57
    #436038

    For those that have not seen a Top Fuel Drag Race, I highly recommend going to Brainerd to see these guys run. It is not cheap, but it is impressive. As impressive as Pro Stockers are when they run under 7 seconds and over 200 mph, the Funny Cars and Top Fuelers are in a world by themselves. After watching these Nitro cars the ProStockers look like they are running in slow motion. In the grandstands you hear the deafening roar, feel the pounding in your chest from the car going by, and swivel your head like you are sitting on the ground at center court watching a tennis serve (not my thing either, but you get an idea of just how fast they go by you). At half track (1/8th mile or 660 feet) they are already over 260 mph. It is a very impressive sport when everything goes right, and sometimes even more so when things go wrong. And for the guy with the S-10, I also had one of those awesome machines. Things happened so fast that I felt I was driving in slow motion.

    mossydan
    Cedar Rapids, Iowa
    Posts: 7727
    #436230

    I didn’t know that this is how these top fuel funnycars run and perform, totally amazing information. Thanks Gary. Heres another one about small block chevies, a 283 fully bored with all the tricks and parts and all the latest tech building in the early 1970’s around the muscle car years would produce 2,500 horse, ya out of a small block 30 years ago, amazing stuff what good mecanics can do. It wasen’t anything for a good backyard mechanic to get 450 horse out of thier motors, without a blower, and bake and roast the tires without even trying. A good mechanic down the street when i was in high school was getting 700 horse out of his tricked out 327, minus a blower, that he raced at the strip in the late 60’s. The new funny cars totally haul as- for sure.

    mojo
    Posts: 723
    #436242

    This is incredibly ironic! I was telling someone about those statistics at lunch yesterday. I had read them about two years ago on the web (the version I read used a Lingenfelter Corvette instead of a motorcycle for the 200 mph statistic), but I did several searches and couldn’t find the info anywhere. Wouldn’t you know …. you can always get the answer at IDA

    luer
    Colfax,Wi
    Posts: 184
    #614778

    Spark plug electrodes are totally consumed during a pass. After 1/2 way, the engine is dieseling from compression plus the glow of exhaust valves at 1400 degrees F. The engine can only be shut down by cutting the fuel flow.

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    CAUTION : do not try this at home.

    life1978
    Eau Claire , WI
    Posts: 2790
    #615049

    One cool read. I’ll have to save this

    t-ellis
    Colorado Springs, CO
    Posts: 1316
    #615082

    Yep i agree, very cool. Thanks for sharing.

    veritas89
    Rosemount, MN
    Posts: 75
    #615272

    holy crap that is quick
    well he cant beat my 24 speed mountain bike hahaha
    tops out at 20 miles per hour was playing around with one of those cop speeder trailers

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