Wow! Economy must be great! Or Bad?

  • jon_jordan
    St. Paul, Mn
    Posts: 10908
    #432942

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    Jon first i want to say you look like you know what your doing and you try to think accurate and find the right answers, i say this because i don’t want you to think im off in left field some place and don’t respect your opinion or answers, i just don’t like to hassel anyone.


    My comments and opinions are in no way meant to hassle you or anyone here. I encourage everyone to post what they are thinking.

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    It was a public radio station that i listened too last fall about the statement from M.I.T.


    Public radio is a prime example of the liberal left propaganda machine at it’s best. Please mix in some FOX news to offset that drivel.

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    This is meant not to offend anyone here on the site but i’ve seen enough greed in my life to drive prices up in alot of situations, its always the biggest desire to make the most in the shortest amount of time.


    Isn’t that the American way? Isn’t that what makes America great? Look, if you don’t get up every morning and have the desire and gumption to be the best, do you best job, make the most money, get that promotion, demand that raise you deserve and so on you will lose in the long run. As Dave B said, and like it or not it’s the reality of life here. GREED IS GOOD! Call it greed, competition, desire, whatever if you don’t have it, sorry to tell you this but, you ain’t going succeed in the long run. This is the fundamental difference between conservatives and liberals. Conservatives want to make a lot of money and keep it (greed) Liberals want the conservative to make all the money then take it away (tax it) and give it to the liberals.

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    Im not going to charge those people more money just because i can, thats why i bid a job at my hourly wage multiplied by the hours it will take, this is fair to everybody and favoring no one.


    I’m not going to tell you how to run your business. But you have to ask yourself why are you doing that! Why not make every single last dime you can for your effort?

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    I was told a story about why the jewish are such good businessmen.


    Please, let’s not go there…..

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    I’ll eat my words if someone can prove to me that these bigger companies that have the ability to control the prices on the things we need in our everyday lives give us a good deal and instead are more concerned with making huge prifits on the back of Americans


    Ya know, that might be true if companies like Wall-Mart were artificially inflating prices. In reality the the opposite is true. Big Box chains are doing a super job of keeping prices on consumer good lower than they have ever been. The majority of items that have gone up drastically in price are items that need to meet some government mandated laws. For instance, cars would still be $3,000 each if they didn’t meet government safety and fuel efficiency and pollution standards. Gas would be cheaper if pollution laws were tossed out Pharmaceuticals (and health care) would be cheaper if they were not constantly sued and lose multi million dollar cases every time they turn around. I’m not suggesting that is good or bad, it’s reality. There is a good reason why many things you buy are more expensive. Don’t always look to greedy corporations, look to overbearing government regulations and taxation as the cause.

    I read your post 3 times and to me, most of it just sounds like whining. You seem to feel that if the government collected all of these “Millions” from these greed corporations everyting would just be rosy. In reality, everything would get more expensive.

    Let me pose this questions:

    What would happen to the American economy if the Government imposed a price cap on gasoline at the pumps for $1.00?

    Answer: The economy would come to a grinding halt. Why? Because there would be no gas to pump at $1.00 a gallon.

    So, why is gas $2.50 a gallon? Because you are willing to pay for it.

    Now, go make some more money……

    -J.

    col._klink
    St Paul
    Posts: 2542
    #432973

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    GREED IS GOOD!

    Now, go make some more money……

    -J.


    I enjoy reading your well written, wordy and witty responses. But I am truly sorry that you feel this way.

    Greed is not good for a man or mankind.

    Greed is the true root of all that is evil. I think that is apparent in this post.

    DaveB
    Inver Grove Heights MN
    Posts: 4469
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    Greed breeds efficiencies. Without efficiency, we would have no free time.

    Life without greed: google bushmen of the kalahri

    Charging someone what they are willing to pay is, in the long run, the best thing for everyone. Take oil, not only will a $1 oil price drastically result in people not drillin oil, it will also result in people not conserving.

    farmboy1
    Mantorville, MN
    Posts: 3668
    #432993

    The whole greed vs society has a name. It is called economics, more specifically the supply and demand cycle. A product or service will cost more until the consumer is no longer willing to pay for it.

    Is this good or bad but it is reality.

    And I also don’t want to get down on you, but charging more at certain times is a part of the business. You are telling me that your rates do not change based on being extremely busy, or looking for work, summer vs winter, good job vs bad. Being a contractor myself, and bidding many, many jobs, I don’t see how this is possible. And there are numerous times I charge less then my bid if things go well, and there are times I take that money and put it in my pocket.

    Go Capitalism.

    And for ease of read, could you please put some paragraphs or seperations in your writting. I enjoy reading them, but have a very hard time following them in one big paragraph.

    Just my $.02, please do not take this as a personal attack as it is not meant as such.

    i_da_woman
    Wisconsin
    Posts: 122
    #433010

    By paragraphs, do you mean two very long necked zoo animals

    hooks
    Crystal, Mn.
    Posts: 1268
    #433017

    No…………I think he means a pair-of-graphs?

    2 depthfinders!

    I love to read all this banter. It makes me feel like I need to read more and further eduacate myself!

    You know the old saying……………..Knowledge is power!

    kooty
    Keymaster
    1 hour 15 mins to the Pond
    Posts: 18101
    #433021

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    You know the old saying……………..Knowledge is power!


    Then I must be one weak son of gun!!!

    BTW, anyone hear they are trying to impeach the president. What the H is that all about??

    DaveB
    Inver Grove Heights MN
    Posts: 4469
    #433024

    Know what would be really funny, if they succeed then had to deal w/ Chaney for 3 more years.

    fishahollik
    South Range, WI
    Posts: 1776
    #433040

    The dispicable Russle Feingold has sponsored this, and guess who is on the band wagon? Barbera Boxer….Yah think!?

    Some say Feingold is gonna run for Pres on Dem ticket. Hell, he won’t even support the right to carry. No way he is getting my vote.

    garvi
    LACROSSE WI
    Posts: 1137
    #433047

    [quote BTW, anyone hear they are trying to impeach the president. What the H is that all about??


    WHY NOT, THEY TRIED TO IMPEACH CLINTON FOR LYING ABOUT SEX.

    OH I FORGOT THIS PRES. DOESN’T LIE, JUST ASK HIM

    farmboy1
    Mantorville, MN
    Posts: 3668
    #433049

    You guys crack me up. And I was refering to two small cows.

    A pair-a-calfs

    GEMEYEGUY
    Posts: 151
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    Our society would never accept anything less than “Everybody gets the same”.




    There was once a society based on nothing less than “Everybody gets the same”, but it wasn’t in North America. (Hint it collapsed in 1989 and the masses in Berlin tore down a wall overnight by hand).

    Do we really want the education system in our country to be based on that failed model?

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    Example: I have 27 students in my class. Here is the breakdown: 9 regular ed. students,




    I’m with ya so far (I think). At least I hope the concept of regular ed students hasn’t changed so drastically since I went to school that I would no longer even be able to identify/recognize it.

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    5 ESL,




    English as a second language (got it)

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    6 EBD(3 level three), 4 LD,


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    Of the 27, 18 of them are on IEP’s,




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    4 of them have one constant para, and 1 has two constant paras.


    Sorry TBO you’re point didn’t get across too well.

    Gotta remember, you’re speaking to EBUL audience.

    PS that’s: Edu-Babble as an Unknown Language

    TBOMN11
    Circle Pines, MN
    Posts: 608
    #433069

    IEP = Individualized Education Plan
    Reg Ed = Not on an IEP
    ESL = English as a second Language
    LD = Learning Disabled
    EBD = Emotionally or Behaviorily Disabled
    Level 3 = Violent, sever depression, anti-social or other sever emotional disorder.
    Constant Para = Fulltime Paraprofessional, at their side, all day
    Two constant paras = 2 fulltime paraprofessionals, a their side, all day.

    You asked “Do we really want the education system in our country to be based on that failed model?” You have to ask the society that we live in, they are the ones that demand the education system we have now, and will have in the future.

    GEMEYEGUY
    Posts: 151
    #433081

    So … given:
    this; IEP = Individualized Education Plan,
    this; Reg Ed = Not on an IEP,
    this; I have 27 students in my class,
    and this; Of the 27, 18 of them are on IEP’s

    I could’ve figued out this: 9 are regular ed. students

    So, does this mean that my public education was a sucess?

    GEMEYEGUY
    Posts: 151
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    “Do we really want the education system in our country to be based on that failed model?” You have to ask the society that we live in, they are the ones that demand the education system we have now, and will have in the future.


    I’m hearing more and more demand for “something other”. Isn’t that the reason why things like voucher initiatives have even been proposed?

    Willeye
    La Crosse, WI
    Posts: 683
    #433094

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    I’m hearing more and more demand for “something other”. Isn’t that the reason why things like voucher initiatives have even been proposed?


    GEG,

    You raise a good question. I’m a public school principal so I’m in on a lot of these conversations with various stakeholders. We can’t forget that public school districts are still governed by democratically elected citizens, the School Board. If people want their local public schools to be “something other” they need to talk to their elected Board members or run for the Board themselves.

    Too frequently school districts are governed by Boards composed of people who want schools to “be like like it was when I was in school. Schools worked fine for me back in 1964 so that should work for kids today.” Well, give me students, parents, and society from 1964 and then we have something.

    Schools should reflect the needs and wishes of their community. Don’t like where your local school is headed? Then talk to the district’s administration or Board members. We want our schools to serve the needs of the community and will listen!

    The voucher system is often initiated at the state government level. So if that is needed, get your state rep on the phone and let them know your thoughts.

    deeplake
    Iron, mn
    Posts: 247
    #433112

    feingold is a jackas*
    way to tell em fishahollick.

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