Kicker and Main Motor Working Together

  • TSCTSC
    Rochester, MN
    Posts: 499
    #1248927

    Is it possible for someone who has a kicker to have in trimmed into the water and working at full throttle at the same time as the main motor??? Will it work. So if someone has a 90HP and a 8HP kicker, when both are working, they have 98HP pushing together. Does it work that way??

    chris-tuckner
    Hastings/Isle MN
    Posts: 12318
    #420993

    No.
    You are kidding, right?

    danno34
    Posts: 170
    #421004

    Tell me you dont own a Boat

    Jack Naylor
    Apple Valley, MN
    Posts: 5668
    #421008

    Just in case HE is not kidding,
    the answer is still,
    NO, but then there’s still, well; Just NO

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #421018

    Not that I’m an expert on this…’cause I can bearly run one motor…but

    to run two motors they must be the same hp and I believe one has to run the opposite direction of the other.(not to be confused with reverse!)

    The only thing running an 8 with a 90 will do…is slow you down…and wastes gas.

    TSCTSC
    Rochester, MN
    Posts: 499
    #421020

    Thanks. Just a thought. Cos I know like Brian says…some boats have dual same HP motors. I just thought if there is any particular reason why dual different HP motors cannot run together…..
    Just a wild thought…

    But a second question is…if you are underway with the main motor, must the kicker be tilted out of the water or can it be left in the water??

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #421029

    Vincent, it can be left in the water…but I wouldn’t for these reasons…and there maybe more…

    1) it’s going to slow you down
    2) it’s going to spray water all over and likely back into the boat
    3) I’m guessing it’s not going to be good for the bearings on around the prop area to spin in nutural…kind like the rule about leaving your motor in gear while trailoring it..so the prop doesn’t spin.

    If you going to be moving a short distance and fairly slowly, I wouldn’t think it’s going to bother anything.

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #421033

    Are you planning on buying a kicker? What kind of boat/motor are you running now?

    TSCTSC
    Rochester, MN
    Posts: 499
    #421052

    Have a Mr Pike 16 and 90HP Yammy.

    Am in the market for a top and a kicker. Have been thinking about them for some time now but costs have kept me away.

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #421056

    I hear ya on the costs. Did they have a price listed for that cove you were looking at? I’m guessing…$800.??

    LaCannes out of Fairbult has taken care of many IDA folks for kickers. Ask for Ken and make sure you tell him your from IDA! They’ll get you set up right the first time!

    I know when I was down there last summer they had some used equipment. Might help you out of price a bit.

    Good luck!

    chris-tuckner
    Hastings/Isle MN
    Posts: 12318
    #421059

    Your kicker does not run near the RPM of your main motor. Therefore, it would not work, and as Brian stated, it would actually slow you down. Not to mention the stress it would place on your transom. There are some motors that come with power tilt like the Yamaha T-8 and Mercury Pro Kicker. Johnson’s and Suzuki need a Panther typ lift, or can be operated manually. Straps are a good idea if you do not have electric lifts, it keeps the motor from accidentally dropping…
    I hope that helps.
    Tuck

    bill_cadwell
    Rochester, Minnesota
    Posts: 12607
    #421081

    Quote:


    Not that I’m an expert on this…’cause I can bearly run one motor…but

    to run two motors they must be the same hp and I believe one has to run the opposite direction of the other.(not to be confused with reverse!)

    The only thing running an 8 with a 90 will do…is slow you down…and wastes gas.


    What Briank said above is correct. It will not work. Chris’s mention of straps is a very good idea.

    Thanks, Bill

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #421087

    Thanks Bill,

    You silly guy!

    Bring along an extra heeter for me on Sunday….along with some of those secret zumbro lure…and I’ll show you how to put some panfish in the pan!

    farmboy1
    Mantorville, MN
    Posts: 3668
    #421135

    Quote:


    Not that I’m an expert on this…


    That says a mouthful right there

    saddletramp
    Posts: 159
    #421305

    actually, I think the kicker would blow, as the water speed is greater than what the kicker would push, so there is no load on the kicker, and nothing to stop it from hi-reving, and grenading.

    gary_wellman
    South Metro
    Posts: 6057
    #421307

    The key factor with twin engines on the back is not so much having equal horsepower, as much as equal RPMs and same props.

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #421392

    Well it only took me a day to figure out that it’s twin engine airplanes that have engine running opposite each other… I have no clue about out boards…

    Thanks for helping out here guys!

    SURE2STRIKE
    Albert Lea, MN
    Posts: 14
    #421452

    Not to be to technical, but generally only some of the smaller twin engine airplanes more commonly used for training have the counter-rotating propellers. With this set up, “P” factor then doesn’t become an issue.

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