270, or 30-30

  • TroyR
    Silver Lake MN
    Posts: 405
    #1247889

    Can someone tell me what a good price is for a new 270, or 30-30, with Scope preferbly, but not necessary. Or if anyone has one that they are looking to get rid of, please let me know.

    Thanks

    gary_wellman
    South Metro
    Posts: 6057
    #394150

    Hey Troy!!!!

    Shoot me a pm!

    TroyR
    Silver Lake MN
    Posts: 405
    #394153

    It’s there.

    krisko
    Durand, WI
    Posts: 1364
    #394168

    It depends do you want top end firearms like Browning or Weaherby or do you want something like a Remington or Winchester? Scopes same thing you want something cheap or good?

    koldfront kraig
    Coon Rapids mn
    Posts: 1816
    #394169

    These two calibers aren’t to comperable when it comes to performance.

    The .270 is basically a .30-06 case with a smaller bullet. Your going to get way better range and knock down power with it than a .30-30.

    kooty
    Keymaster
    1 hour 15 mins to the Pond
    Posts: 18101
    #394182

    I agree completely with Skindog, however one point to add. If you are hunting in some thick nasty stuff and quick to the shoulder shooting is required, the 30/30 is hard to beat.

    Jack Naylor
    Apple Valley, MN
    Posts: 5668
    #394194

    hi Troy,
    I have a Win model 70 .270. it is an excellent rifle, it is far superior than a 30-30 in just about all situations, except heavy brush and short range. I have not decided to sell mine yet. I don’t use it much tho. the best all around bullet is the 130 grain boattail soft-tip (about 3000-3100fps). it is a very flat shooting rifle. that should be your choice. good luck. Jack..

    Steve Root
    South St. Paul, MN
    Posts: 5623
    #394212

    A note about shooting in the brush…..

    The 30-30 RIFLE has an advantage in heavy brush, not the cartridge. Most 30-30’s are short handy lever actions that handly well in cover. All rifle bullets will be deflected by brush. How much it deflects is mainly a function of velocity. 12 gauge slugs deflect less (but still deflect) mainly because they are moving slowly compared a high steppin rifle cartridge like the .270. You have to have a clean hole to shoot through to get your Deer, regardless of caliber.

    Good luck to everyone this weekend!

    Rootski

    barebackjack
    New Prague, MN.
    Posts: 1023
    #394245

    I use a 270 with a 150 grain round nose soft point, made by federal. I have had good luck with this bullet in thick cover and on a clear shot, Im not saying it wont deflect but this is my set up and always feel confident taking a shot in most cover. No experience with a 30 30 and cant help you out with prices but I will say in my experiences spend the money on a good scope you wont regret it.

    chris-tuckner
    Hastings/Isle MN
    Posts: 12318
    #394255

    I wish I still had the article that debunked the theory that the 30-30 is the “Best” brush gun. They did a controlled test with it against a .270. And the .270 was the better brush gun! Like was mentioned, the 30-30 being lever actioned, and usually shorter may be better and faster to get on target. But the .270 actually landed on target more often than the 30-30. I have both, and love them. The .270 opens up a lot more options for you is you ever want to go out west. Plus! Remington now makes a 115 grain reduced recoil round that stays on zero out to 200 yards. This means you can zero for 130 grains, and shoot 115’s without changing zero! Come on prarie dogs!

    Tuck

    tom_gursky
    Michigan's Upper Peninsula(Iron Mountain)
    Posts: 4751
    #394268

    There are several quick handling lever/pump/auto action rifles made in .270 like the Browning BLR and the Remingtons…you could have the best of both of those qualities.
    I would prefer a .308 for close cover to a 30/30 for a short action 30 cal.

    TroyR
    Silver Lake MN
    Posts: 405
    #394289

    Thanks for all the tips. Here is what I am looking for.

    I am looking for a rifle for my wife, all 5′ 98lbs of her. I am looking for a mid ranged priced gun and scope, as she won’t let me buy a good one. I am leaning towards the 270 myself, but like the 30-30’s for the lack of kick. Maybe there is a better gun yet, any suggestions would be appreciated.

    kooty
    Keymaster
    1 hour 15 mins to the Pond
    Posts: 18101
    #394303

    Get her a .243. This is a great gun with a lot less kick in my opinion. I know many ladies back home that shoot deer every year with this rifle. Keep in mind this bullet will be more succeptable to brush deflection than the above calibers. I would consider a youth model in whatever caliber you choose given her size. Good luck.

    TroyR
    Silver Lake MN
    Posts: 405
    #394313

    What is an average price on a 243?

    mossboss
    La Crescent, MN
    Posts: 2792
    #394317

    For someone that small, I might look for a youth rifle.

    .243 with a good controlled expantion bullet should work fine and kick very little.

    mossboss
    La Crescent, MN
    Posts: 2792
    #394319

    Quote:


    What is an average price on a 243?


    It is the type of gun that usually effects price, a 30-06, 270, 243, whatever in a given gun (say a Browning A-bolt), are all aprroximately the same price.

    pool2fool
    Posts: 53
    #394419

    if you are hunting whitetails I’d go with the 270 in a youth model. the kick of any firearm can be modified by good training. you don’t want to hobble her hunt with something marginal like the .243. watch the ads and check out some gun shows you should be able to get into something purty nice for not a whole big bundle. oh yeah, forget the 3030.

    birdman
    Lancaster, WI
    Posts: 483
    #394473

    If you decide to go with the 270 I would consider buying the Managed Recoil Shells that Remington makes. The recoil from those shells are about the same as a 243.

    koldfront kraig
    Coon Rapids mn
    Posts: 1816
    #394758

    I wouldn’t call the .243 a marginal deer gun.

    Several of my family members have been using them for decades and haven’t had a problem bringing down dear.

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