John Detloff’s book ‘Three Record Muskies In His Day: The Life and Times of Louie Spray’ is a very good one. I just fishished reading it about a month ago, and it eems many ‘records’ proved to be false then, all because they wanted to beat out Lou and have the record.
John Detloff is pictured in the HOF’s response (link is two posts above) holding the musky mount in Spray’s pose. Detloff owns a resort on the Chippewa Flowage (Indian Trail) which supposedly overlooks the spot where the Spray fish was caught. Detloff, as you mentioned, has written a lot about musky history in Hayward. Finally, he was also the “researcher” that got the Lawton fish removed from the record books.
John
Hang on a darn second here. 
I don’t really care if the fish is a record or not….but I don’t particularly like Gary’s comment a couple replies above this one about “shoving buckshot in to a fishes gullet”….it might give you record weight…but I ain’t going in there without a fight. 
I personally believe there was a motive behind the Alliance, but all that nonsense aside the record will be broken within the next 10 years. Oh where you ask they call it Georgian Bay. With a 60″ size limit and a forage base like that it’s inevitable. I’m not an expert by any means in the growth rate of a Brown Trout, but take a Great Lakes brown and compare it to say a Rush River brown(renowned as one of the best trout water’s in Wisconsin). I have recently heard of an unconfirmed 74# lunge caught on Georgian Bay out of season! Haven’t done any research to find out the validity of it, but it seems very possible. I believe it was last year or the year before (maybe Gary can help me here) but a guy caught a 63# lunge 59″ in November sometime……a month before they change it to 60″. Could you imagine catching a 60+ pound fish and it not be a legal fish!!! So now that brings me to a question for all you anglers (esspecialy you Musky guys 
) If say you were fishing Georgian and you carried a certified scale with you and 2 witnesses and you caught a “sublegal” world record lunge, would it hold up???? Seeings how you released it back you didn’t break any regs. and then it should be legal, right?? Inquiring minds want to know!
Brad
Muskyman!!!!
That is a great point!!!!
Yep, the Georgian bay has super size fish. They don’t measure in inches, say 40, 45, 50, or 55 inches………They measure in pounds……40, 45, 50, 55 pounds!!!!!!!!
That is a serious predictament…….catching a 59.5″ 72lb muskie!!!!!! Personally, I don’t know what I would do……
However, isn’t Lac Seul now a total Catch/release musky water? I fished the English river, upstream of Lac Seul and in that system, their largest fish was 57lbs. There too, they talked pounds, not inches……Meaning they caught multiple 40s each year…….(40 pounders)…..That specific stretch of the system is not catch/release, even though it flows into Lac Seul.
how can that guy say in that article ” there were no bags of ice, it would take hours to chip from a 25lb. block and shove into the fish. what would you chip it with ? a q-tip. i think i could cut or chip it up in about 5 minutes. give me a break.
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If say you were fishing Georgian and you carried a certified scale with you and 2 witnesses and you caught a “sublegal” world record lunge, would it hold up???? Seeings how you released it back you didn’t break any regs. and then it should be legal, right?? Inquiring minds want to know! Brad
Since “fishing” for a species that the season is closed for is illegal, one would have to assume that either 1) you were packing the witnesses and certified scale in search of a record carp and then miraculously caught a record musky on a dough ball and #8 hook, OR 2) you were fishing for the musky intentionally with musky tackle and equipment along with the scale and witnesses, therefore it would not be “Sub-legal”, but completely illegal.
Its funny how all these so called “musky anglers” want the record thrown out…possibly so they can have a better chance at getting their own name in the books. Yep, I’d have to agree, its a hidden agenda. More likely a conspiracy.
Whadaya say we throw them ALL out and start over?
Fish my question is not directed at an out of season musky, my question was directed at a “sublegal” fish caught during season. Sorry for the confusion. Gary now you’ve got me daydreaming 
If it clears things up any, in Florida they have a “slot limit” on Redfish..I believe the fish have to be between 18″ and 36″ to take into possession. All others must be released “imeadiately”. While I was stationed there the FWS Officer told me that means before pictures are taken, or weighing it….Therefor the State record Redfish will stand until the slot is changed because the record fish is well over 36″.
If I had a possible record fish and they wrote me up for photographing, weighing, then measuring the fish before releasing it We would just have to go to a jury trial complete with the history of the names of the indivuals that developed that entrapment scheme being released to the media.
Gary…that’s correct on lac seul…had been catch and release for musky since at least 1994, which is when i first started going there. A few year later, about 1997 or so if memory serves me right, a guy from florida hooked into a dandy…another boater videotaped the whole thing, including the measurements being taken, but poor guy…nobody had a scale that went over 50 lbs. 
From the measurements, they estimated that the weight was very close to or over Spray’s purported recorded. The video runs at a local bait shop near hudson, along with a replica on the wall…pretty large!
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