I just let my yellow lab out the back door to go potty (fenced in yard) and she went to the side fence barking. That told me my neighbor (whom I rarely, if ever talk to) was in his back yard. I heard 2 pops and it finally registered that some one was shooting a air gun (bb or pellet, I think bb). I crouched down on the back porch to get a better view through the shrubs in time to see the neighbors 15 year old son taking aim and pulling the trigger on my lab. I already know what I did, what would you do??
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July 10, 2005 at 1:22 am #372131
After I placed the gun sideways up his arse and beat his parents for raising a putz–I would scream at him at the top of my lungs until the cops that I would have called arrived!
Hope your dog is ok.–Whitey
July 10, 2005 at 1:45 am #372133I would absolutely, totally lose it. That boy and his parents would be praying for the cops to show up.
July 10, 2005 at 2:19 am #372138put it this way,unless i had acess to the internet in jail you would’nt here about it till i got out..
July 10, 2005 at 2:21 am #372139I would have absolutly spazzed out too. Who knows what I would have done??
July 10, 2005 at 2:59 am #372150Dont know what I would do. It wouldnt be a pretty sight though. I sure hope the dog is ok.
July 10, 2005 at 3:36 am #372152I would take the gun away and then tell the kid to have his Dad come and ask for it.
vikefanmnPosts: 50July 10, 2005 at 4:32 am #3721541st the kids only 15, I’m certain he’s not the first teenager to do something stupid. 2nd Is the dog ok? Best bet call the cops and let them decide
OR kick his [censored] whateverJuly 10, 2005 at 1:13 pm #372162I would have called the cops first thing and told the 911 dispatcher that someone was shooting a gun.(they don’t need to know it is a BB gun at a dog). They will get there faster if you leave that part out. 15 year-old kid. You can do nothing to him, he knows it and so do you. The best thing to do is let the police handle it. Now for the parents that is another story. You can go after them for damage to your dog. Heck you could find a lawyer somewhere who can prove your dog is afraid of guns now and there would be a huge increase in the back account. Realistically you should let the cops do their job. The results will not be what you want I am sure but you don’t need to go to jail for assaulting a 15 year-old
July 10, 2005 at 10:12 pm #372186I believe the penalties are getting pretty stiff for cruelity to animals. I’d let the police handle it, if they don’t do it to your satisfaction, the kid should be getting a car in the next year or so. You may want to buy a pellet gun!!!
July 10, 2005 at 10:35 pm #372187actually rotten eggs are better than a pellet gun for the car. but I would have called the cops after going out there and calling him every stupid name I could come up with. and then I would also have a nice little chat with his father. I am sure dad would like to know what his son is up to when he is at work.
shane
July 10, 2005 at 10:51 pm #372191Fireline,
I am not writing this from prison!!! The moment I realized that the punk had just put the bead on my lab and pulled the trigger I peeled off the porch towards him. I can only think I must have looked like the roadrunner I ran as far as the 8 foot chain link fence (glad it was there or I might be writing this from jail) screaming at the top of my lungs the whole way. I was wagging my index finger at him screaming “I BETTER NEVER SEE YOU POINT A GUN AND PULL THE TRIGGER ON MY DOG EVER AGAIN OR I WILL CALL THE COPS” I think he tried to get a word in edgewise and I repeated myself. I got the dog inside and checked her over and she still had 2 eyes and was wagging her tail. I do not know if she was hit or not. I, before this was having a great evening the wife and kids were out and I had just gotten home from a 10 hour shift at work where it had to be over 100 degrees. The ac was cranking and my lab and I were enjoying the twins game. Needless to say this ordeal absolutely ruined my evening. I came inside and was so pissed I was shaking like a leaf, I sat down in my favorite chair and tried to resume watching the twins when I realized that was not going to work. I put on my shirt and stormed out the front door and rang the doorbell on the neighbors house. The punks mom said yeessss I will be right there (windows were open as well as the front door, the screen door was closed) She came to the door (not opening it) and said yes. I was still shaking so bad I could hardly talk but I was able to spit out that I am extremely upset right now your son just pointed his gun at my dog and pulled the trigger and needless to say I am extremely angry right now. Her response was that he has a different story. She must have heard the comotion in the backyard and already investigated. I again explained that no I watched him point his gun at my dog and pull the trigger and that I was pissed. She repeated 4 or 5 times it will never happen again. I told her that I hunt and was brought up that if you ever point a gun at anything or anyone you better intend on killing it! Her response well it will never happen again. I unfortunately left it at that. I at this time wish I would have called the cops but I think I was in such shock I was not sure what to do. I still think I am going back over there tonight to see what the punishment is especially since I will continue to let my dog out back as well as I have a two and a half year old daughter who goes out back to play daily. I would hope his little toy is no longer his. I am thankful my dog was not hurt and would hope that he learned his lesson. After I got back from talking to his mom I left the original post to calm down and got a very funny response immediately that made me laugh out loud. At that point I was able to go back to the twins and salvage what was left of the evening. Thanks for the thearapy.
ZoomerJuly 10, 2005 at 11:02 pm #372195One side note I actually stayed up a little later than usual last night absolutely expecting mom or dad to be dragging the kid over to my house by the ear with an apology and believe it or not no phone call, note in the mailbox. NOTHING!!! perhaps this is why he is shooting at my dog. Yes I have 4 kids and if it was one of them i would demand that they apologize for there actions!!
July 10, 2005 at 11:10 pm #372199Not sure what my imediate reaction would have been. Lets just say it would not have been pretty. As far as what to do now…I think I would make another trip next door and discuss it with dad. I would also driop a few words in the convo such as laywer, litigation, lawsuit etc….see what comes of it.
July 10, 2005 at 11:40 pm #372204sure, saying some of them big words like that is bound to get someone in trouble and it is usually the person that is using them. he would counter sue for the emotional stress that was caused to his son due to the screaming and the finger waggling. if it where my kid, lets just say, that his but would be a little sore to sit for long periods of time, he would’t even see another gun until he was out of my house, and he would grounded for the same amount of time, and be rest assured, his little but would have been drug over there by them little hairs on the back of our neck to appologize and offer to pay for any damages by working the amount off around thier house.
shane
2Fishy4UPosts: 973July 11, 2005 at 12:05 am #372207Based on a similar experience that happened several years ago, I did about the same thing you did, only in my case I almost nailed the kid.
If it happened today and I didn’t know the parents, I would call the police.
Unfortunately, what is a bit depressing is the kid should have apologized.
July 11, 2005 at 12:18 am #372208Two things stand out, when you let your dog out he immediately barked at your neighbor. That is probably not a neighborly thing to always have your dog barking, and labs can bark loud. Second you rarely if ever talk to your neighbor. That sounds like a problem that maybe the 15 year old has picked up on. I think communications with your neighbor might resolve the problem of ever happening again. It’s none of my business but being you asked that is my 2 cents.
July 11, 2005 at 12:57 am #372214Bark or no bark that does not give the kid the right to do what he did. my lab is a house dog and if she does start barking in the yard she is immediately called back in. I did go back next door this evening. As I too believe communication on this matter is important. His mom was out on the porch and I wanted to let her know that this incident is still very much on my mind. Her reply was again her sons story is different and that she understands my PERCEPTION is very real. I let her know that my perception is reality and I needed to be assured that it would not happen again or I would be forced to file a police report. I asked if the weapon had been taken away and she “thought” so but was not sure as she had not been home all day. I let her know again my concerns of my little daughter playing in the yard and told her I would expect not to see the gun in his hands again or the police would be called. I still have not had an apology as the mom is sticking with the sons story and she believes I percieved the whole ordeal. If anything I believe the second visit (in a more rational tone of voice I might add) reiterated the fact that I will not tolerate it and if I see it again I WILL call the police. Thanks for the good advice.
July 11, 2005 at 1:06 am #372215I’d file a police report just to show that you mean business…especially if you don’t care for your neighbor’s anyway. I’d be mad as a mofo indeed..
July 11, 2005 at 1:13 am #372216I 100% agree with Slop Bass,,,You should at least file a report with the police just to have it in their records, not just yours…
then if there would be any other problems down the road they will have some insite on the situation.
July 11, 2005 at 1:15 am #372217To hell with what she thinks you percieved, pick up the phone and call the cops!! It is blatently obvious you are the only concerned adult in this matter and if they arent willing to make him responsible for his actions call someone who will. There is too many parents out there letting this crap go on and then wonder why kids act the way they do Seriously for that kids own good call the cops and make sure the kid is held accountable for his ruthless actions, what if that wouldve been your child out there??????? Might not be so lucky next time the little SOB’s parents let him run amuck. Your mention of your little child irritates me more than anything just thinking if that would have been the case, I did have it happen to me when I was younger and that kid got his arse booted all the way home.
July 11, 2005 at 1:36 am #372219you know after reading your posts and what has transpired since the incident,i now know what i would have done. i would have got my dog inside and called the police and would have pressed charges to the full extent of the law.
that way the gun would have been confiscated and the hassle
now that mom and dad would have had to go through with juvenile procedings with there young son would have assured
some form of discplinary action. with you not calling the police they now can believe there son and will say you overeacted to something there son would never do. if the police were called they would have had to deal with you on your terms not there’s. sorry this had to happen as you now have to live there without real resolution. i hope it all turns out well for you. but next time call a cop!!!July 11, 2005 at 2:54 am #372235What a complete crock of bull to even suggest this occured because the dog FREAKIN BARKED! That is no reason to raise any weapon at it! I would comminicate with a call to the cops–might help turn this punk into a better person.
-whitey
July 11, 2005 at 12:42 pm #372260More than likely this kid has tormented the dog before and that’s why the dog was barking at the kid. My next door neighbor does not talk to anyone in the neighborhood and keeps to herself. Occasionally my dog will sneak into her yard when I am not looking and the neighbor has chased her off with a stick. Many of you here know my dog and know that she is very friendly but when she sees that neighbor the hair on the back of her neck stands up and she starts barking her head off at the neighbor. For what ever reason the dog was barking at the kid no way does it justify pointing a gun at the dog. I also agree with slop and ecnook file a report with the police.
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Two things stand out, when you let your dog out he immediately barked at your neighbor. That is probably not a neighborly thing to always have your dog barking, and labs can bark loud.
July 11, 2005 at 12:55 pm #372266Here is what you do. call me up. im not 18 see. i will come down there, give that little punk a swift kick right in the then i will take my paintball gun and start shooting at him and see how he likes it. then we will see what his parents think when he comes in crying with a boot stuck in him and they have to go to the docter to get it removed. after that i will be willing to bet money he will run and cry every time he even SEES the dog. lets teach him a lesson
July 11, 2005 at 2:37 pm #372299Zoomer,
Lets just say I’m glad I have never been put in that situation, cause I’m afraid of what I would do if I saw someone shooting at my Lab!
I agree with others, you should still file a report. I would like to clear this up for some people. Roseville (where Zoomer lives) is where I grew up. It is a very close suburb to both Minneapolis and St. Paul. To discharge any type fo fire arm, including a bb/pellet gun is against the law in this city for any reason, much less at a living being. This is not a rural or country area.
Parents and kids themselves need to take responsibility for their and their kids actions. I don’t care if the kid is 18, 15 or 10, things like this must be dealt with. Who knows what the kid might shoot at next or where he might bring a gun? In my opinion, kids are lacking discipline these days and it is both the fault of the parents and society. I’m not saying that you need to beat kids or anything like that. Although it only took me a few beatings from the old man when I was young and lets just say I learned my lesson to listen and behave. Why?? Cause I was both afraid of the consequence and I have always respected my parents and the beliefs they bestowed upon me. THat is what is missing in a lot of families today, is respect for the Parents. So I blame the kid, parents and society for this.
I know kids will be kids and kids do certain things ( Believe me, I have been there done that), but when it involves endangering another life, the LAW MUST step in and be informed. Again just my opinion and my 2 cents.
pittmdPosts: 181July 11, 2005 at 3:33 pm #372311I sure hope your pup is ok and does not have any issues with guns. To get a good hunting dog is a lot of work and very expensive. Cops would have been your best option.
This is not quite the same thing but I had a guy (17 year old) harrassing my daughter. She had gone out with him for a while but they split up. After that for a long time he would call her vaulger names in the hall way between class and do all sorts of nasty things. I told her to ignor it he will stop….he didn’t. I call his parents and talked to them. No help what so ever. They said “he is almost 18 and we can’t control him”. I walked into school one day for other reasons and happened to see him. As I approached him he started backing up until he got to the wall. I got about an inch from his face and told him that he could stop the BS or I would stop it. His response??? “You can’t touch me, get away from me”. Within an hour I was down at the court house filling a restraining order against him. I had Everything documented and they approved it. We had to go to court and the judge ordered that he could not come within something like 3 blocks of my daughter. Which ment that he could not attend that school anymore. His parents begged me to drop it because he had just got kicked out of the Rochester school for the same thing. NO F-ing WAY!
July 11, 2005 at 3:44 pm #372313call the cops on it and file a report, so it is on the books.
Then when it happens again, you have most of your bases covered.
Lot’s of folks here talked about taking care of business their own way……….and as much as I would love to sit there with a wrist rocket and some ball bearings…….A guy just shouldn’t do those things, for it will get you in trouble.
Because of parents like these, this kid will not change his ways………..
Call the cops
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