Asian Carp Info

  • mudneck_joe
    SE MN
    Posts: 409
    #1357776

    Find out more about the potential risks and diligent responses to Asian Carp at stopcarp.org

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59998
    #1405536

    This is the beginning of the end to multi pool tournament fishing.

    Do these people know the rollers are WIDE OPEN on #3?

    suzuki
    Woodbury, Mn
    Posts: 18722
    #1405537

    Will the barges stay in one pool?

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59998
    #1405538

    In reading the sign Mike, I’m thinking they want us to report sightings of the sign.

    suzuki
    Woodbury, Mn
    Posts: 18722
    #1405539

    Quote:


    In reading the sign Mike, I’m thinking they want us to report sightings of the sign.


    Sorry. I changed my post after you replied. I think we are on the same side of this issue.

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59998
    #1405540

    Who’s planning on stopping the pleasure craft?

    The website is still talking about eDNA when they know bird transfer DNA for hundreds of miles. More so with the spring migration.

    Report sightings of bird droppings… maybe that’s what they meant.

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    #1405541

    Just close the locks at the coon rapids dam and all will be well.

    nhamm
    Inactive
    Robbinsdale
    Posts: 7348
    #1405547

    Quote:


    Just close the locks at the coon rapids dam and all will be well.



    timmy
    Posts: 1960
    #1380926

    Quote:


    In reading the sign Mike, I’m thinking they want us to report sightings of the sign.


    Uhhhh…..I don’t think at is the intent.

    I believe they want reported sightings of the locks themselves. I just called and reported I saw a lock, they seemed appreciative.

    T

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59998
    #1405552

    They could stop them further down stream by closing the lock on the Vermilion as well.

    Part of me feels that I should jump on the band wagon and help promote anything we can do to stop invasive we can.

    The practical side of me keeps saying “B as in B…S as in S”.

    It is better to be safe then sorry right?

    But at what cost?

    When we look at the lockage reports there’s much more “recreational” traffic then commercial. I can’t break out how many are fishermen and how many are tuna boats. But from the view of the Lock I see, fishing boats are a needle in the haystack compared to other, larger recreational vessels.

    Then the rollers are wide open, now when the A Carp are migrating.

    Then there’s the Vermilion River with all of it’s Pool 3 access points.

    Then there’s the Trimbell River that goes into Gatinbine Lake that pours into Pool #3 via the spill way created just two years ago with the Embankment Projects.

    Yes locking less could help but is it even worth talking about?

    cougareye
    Hudson, WI
    Posts: 4145
    #1405554

    I’m not a proponent of this at all, but BK, you are referring to Lock 3 and thus P4, the website is concerned with Lock #1. Does that lock have commercial vessels moving through? Barges?

    I wouldn’t personally be opposed to closing Lock 1 as some sort of preventative measure. They are indicating that Lock 1 is ‘tall’ enough to implement stoppage measures.

    Safe than sorry?

    ET

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    #1405561

    Well there already are Asian carp above lock #1. Been there for almost a hundred years. They are everywhere. I’d like to catch the mirrored variety.

    Are we talking new Asian carp? Those sneaky ones that have all but evaded all the commercial fishing nets and DNR survey nets?

    If they really wanted to get these preventative measures in place they should plant a bull shark near the Minnehaha falls. Bull sharks are scarier than carp.

    nhamm
    Inactive
    Robbinsdale
    Posts: 7348
    #1405575

    Close lock #1? When they are almost done re-gating the CR dam to be Asian proof? To protect the precious north side waterway that everyone cares about?

    Business forces are at work. Start buying riverfront property now before the high rises go in, that is if one could outbid them, or the dirty politicians behind it all. Conspiracy rant over.

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59998
    #1405604

    Quote:


    I’m not a proponent of this at all, but BK, you are referring to Lock 3 and thus P4, the website is concerned with Lock #1. Does that lock have commercial vessels moving through? Barges?

    I wouldn’t personally be opposed to closing Lock 1 as some sort of preventative measure. They are indicating that Lock 1 is ‘tall’ enough to implement stoppage measures.

    Safe than sorry?

    ET


    My Bad!

    With the couple emails I’ve received concerning tourney on Pool #3 and limiting lockages, I missed the part about them talking about #1.

    When I was reading through all the “article clips” on the right hand side that were so slanted my computer monitor is now permanently tipped to the right… I didn’t go to other pages.

    But seriously, do you think they will stop at Lock 1?

    cougareye
    Hudson, WI
    Posts: 4145
    #1405620

    I don’t know BK, I’d hope before they ‘ask’ people not to lock through locks used by barges they’d realize the stupidity of such a request given they’ll never be able to stop commercial traffic.

    But having said that, we’ve seen some stupidity in the past…..

    except for the beautiful new ballparks of course!!

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59998
    #1405625

    Quote:


    except for the beautiful new ballparks of course!!


    Exactly! The oneS that no one in MN wanted to pay for!

    But I digress…

    I’m thinking it’s time to pull up the video of the Asian Carp expert that was at the U last summer. It doesn’t matter what was said at his lecture… we are just going to see more and more of this “asking” or laws until they get their stadiums…er, closures.

    MN Sales Tax started at 3% and was just going to last 1 year.
    Seat Belt laws started out without fines… today? $140.00 reportedly.

    As I mentioned earlier, limiting lockages for tourneys is already being worked on and they are not talking Lock #1.

    David Anderson
    Dayton, MN
    Posts: 522
    #1405692

    Quote:


    Close lock #1? When they are almost done re-gating the CR dam to be Asian proof? To protect the precious north side waterway that everyone cares about?

    Business forces are at work. Start buying riverfront property now before the high rises go in, that is if one could outbid them, or the dirty politicians behind it all. Conspiracy rant over.


    Right on the money! Minneapolis wants to develop the river front from just north of Dowling Avenue to Broadway. Impossible because of the North Minneapolis barge terminal above the St. Anthony Locks (Lock #1). But wait, a new excuse, Asian Carp………..I think we can justify it on this alone. So what, close the locks and if they get this far and if by somehow (there’s always someone mischievious enought to do this) they appear above the locks, they will reopen, right. Do I want carp up in upper Mississippi River north of Anoka, nope. If they can live in the fast water will they get there, eventually. The real problem is that they are here. In the grand scheme of things, what is the acceptable price for slowing down a process? I don’t know, ask the companies that have been using the Port of Minneapolis legally for years.

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59998
    #1405693

    It does say “lockS” and doesn’t say anything about Lock #1 or one lock.

    desperado
    Posts: 3010
    #1405694

    Maybe the “don’t use the locks” and “stay in one pool” statements are directed TO the Carp !

    suzuki
    Woodbury, Mn
    Posts: 18722
    #1405699

    Quote:


    Quote:


    I’m not a proponent of this at all, but BK, you are referring to Lock 3 and thus P4, the website is concerned with Lock #1. Does that lock have commercial vessels moving through? Barges?

    I wouldn’t personally be opposed to closing Lock 1 as some sort of preventative measure. They are indicating that Lock 1 is ‘tall’ enough to implement stoppage measures.

    Safe than sorry?

    ET


    My Bad!

    With the couple emails I’ve received concerning tourney on Pool #3 and limiting lockages, I missed the part about them talking about #1.

    When I was reading through all the “article clips” on the right hand side that were so slanted my computer monitor is now permanently tipped to the right… I didn’t go to other pages.

    But seriously, do you think they will stop at Lock 1?


    BBBK-where did you hear they were limiting lockages already? I thought this campaign was voluntary right now?

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59998
    #1405705

    Just a couple guys that keep their finger on things like this.

    One was asking specifically about the tourney out of Hastings this weekend.

    At this point it’s just talk.

    But really…do tourney guys NEED to fish more then one pool??

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59998
    #1405727

    Dear Asian Carp,

    Please stop before traveling past Lock and Dam #3.

    desperado
    Posts: 3010
    #1405729

    the Sticker … ya gotta put up the sticker
    one on the downstream side of each headgate piling ought ta do the trick

    nhamm
    Inactive
    Robbinsdale
    Posts: 7348
    #1405732


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