thanks for posting the Knee link. After watching I looked up the hit cooke gave and it looks like he traveled pretty far leading with his knee to hit the av player. Watching it on TV during the game I did not think cooke was guilty, after watching the link I now think he is. How come the guy delivering the knee in all the videos does not get hurt?
First of all 
I have seen both players get hurt before, but not often. It may have been in the 90s.
I assume it is because the hitter normal hits with the front of his knee and is flexed. The receiver is usually extending the leg, the blade digging into the ice and they get hit on the side of the knee.
No problem pug.. 
I think the spin you posted is the best we have to argue this horrible deal.
I have no doubt if it was any player in the league it would have been 1 or 2 games for a hit like that when you injure somebody in the manner he did.
Anything on top of 1 or 2 is because he was/is one of the cheapest dirtiest players to ever play the game. You know that, you hated it when we signed him. So ill give you the reputation part.
That being said my biggest frustration is Matt Cooke has totally crappoed on his team and probably cost us the series with his bonehead unnecessary play.
Just miss him dont stick your leg out. Yeah you woulda looked kind of dumb, created an odd man rush maybe. But dont make the cardinal sin that you pattented, were suspended for numerous times and had put in the closet for almost 3 years. My Goodness Brodz is back in now because of this. 
Can you imagine the motivation the Av are going to possible have over this you may as well give the Avs game 5 in Colorado?
Matt you failed everybody here#hopeimwrong.
Go Wild!…
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How come the guy delivering the knee in all the videos does not get hurt?
The technique that Cherry and others were talking about basicly said if the offender plants his knee it can help or seems to diminish the risk to the cheap shotter.
Dont know dont care its just a tabu thing you dont do as a player. 
I’m the guy you refer to as the “I told you so” guy.
However, I didn’t watch the game nor the hit or do I care what the punishment is. My beef isn’t with Cooke it’s with the Wild for signing him in the first place. Between that signing and the Big 10 debacle I’ve watched less Minnesota hockey this year then at any previous time I can remember.
That said, if you want to eliminate these “cheap shot” injuries in all sports just suspend the offending player for the same amount of time the injured player is out and make the teams play short a player that amount of time. In other words if a baseball player gets hurt in a brawl and somebody is hurt for 6 games the suspended player gets 6 games and both teams keep their rosters at 24 players for the duration. They are not allowed to call up a replacement player.
OK, that’s my opinion, I’m done with the Wild and this thread for the year. 
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I’m the guy you refer to as the “I told you so” guy.
No, it wasn’t you either. It was directed at national and even local media. Directed at people who follow the game.
The whole situation has bugged me as it has revealed something ugly and I am not talking about his past or the knee incident.
The irony of this whole Cooke discussion is the fact that it’s a perfect illustration of the double standard in the NHL right now.
After the Blackhawks Seabrook delivered a full-on targeted head shot to the Blues Backes and knocked Backes out, there was talk about IF he should be suspended.
Typical. It must be really nice to be a Sacred Cow team like the Hawkes. Can’t see those top media market and “Original 6” teams eliminated, can we?
So Seabrook gets 3 games for a deliberate, vicious head shot against the boards which was the one thing that NHL said they were determined to crack down on this year. 3 freaking games. I look forward to the Blues welcoming Seabrook back when they meet again.
Meanwhile, the Wild’s Cooke is involved in a questionable kneeing incident and before the last fan left the X, the pundits are talking about weather he gets suspended for 5 or 7 or 10 games.
Can there be any doubt that a double standard exists in the NHL whereby certain “Brand Name” teams get favorable treatment and the rule are ignored in their favor?
Grouse
The Seebrook incident was punished perfectly imo. No priors and backus was already falling down.
I see no double here at all. I find it silly to suggest too.
Imo.
Pugg its a lot more then the National media when homers like myself and other wild fans feel the same way on this.
I feel that he was trying to cut in to make a check and couldn’t close the gap to make the hit. I hope we get him back soon. When it comes to forechecking, he is one of our biggest hustlers.
DT
Thats the frustrating part Cooky was playing like a beast.
I thought I said local media/fans already?
The double standard isn’t as bad as it used to be, after all, The NHL Wheel Of Justice wasn’t a joke by mistake.
If you want to use Backes head down as an excuse, then surely you can say Barrie jumping out of the way was partly to blame (which I am not saying). Head shots are way worse.
I am fine with 3 games for Cooke. Anymore is a joke, especially using the NHL Player Safety Video standards.
Actually intentionally going for a knee is as bad or worse imo.
Seebrook didnt intentionally go for backus head so its a moot point.
I hate slo mo replays things get skewed.
How is Brendan Smith’s knee to Brad Marchant last night any different than Cooke’s? (other than it appears that Marchant has tougher knee ligaments than Barrie)
If anything, Smith’s kneeing looked alot worse than Cooke’s… so the odd fact that Barrie’s ligaments decided to strain and Marchants didn’t is what justifies a suspension or not?
Here’s the Smith kneeing hit – 
quite a bit different actually. even from the weak camera angle you have provided you can see the Detroit players knee is directly underneath him. No intentional extension or out word movement like cookies cheap shot.
good try tho…
anyway here’s a list of Seebroks past incidents ….
Here are Cookes
edit not enough band width so ill just post the rather large link.
http://nhl.si.com/2014/04/22/matt-cookes-long-rap-sheet-of-nhl-suspensions-and-dirty-hits/
The main differences is that Smith just caught Marchand’s shin and Bairre is extending himself laterally.
Smith is throwing his knee out there. He just makes contact before it get out there more and you can’t tell from the camera angle.
No he is not. He’s changing direction. Cookes is much more blatant with his toe and leg angled out. the Wing player is trying to hit him with the upper body. Cooke knew he was toast so he cheap shotted him.
And it doesnt matter anyway the boston player returned to the game and the redwing players isnt one of the DIRTIEST CHEAPEST players to ever play the game.
Keep trying to justifie it guys but its boarding on patheletoc at this point.
Its clear that you cannot be objective when you are calling him the cheapest player in all caps and you’re getting so bent out of shape you can’t spell check your typos.
Changing his direction? I suppose you can spin anything these days. Cooke was trying to square dance with Barrie. I can do it too.
Cooke’s arm/elbow goes out just like the Wings player, like he is whiffing on a body check.
Have a nice day and no Im not going back to spell check.
Those weren’t insults. Jabs maybe, but not insults.
I suppose we’ve all wasted enough time debating it now and all that is left is the final judgement.
Did anyone notice that Marchand’s left knee was hit but appears to grab for his right knee when he rolls onto his back? I’m just sayin.
DT
And after reviewing the video above, Cooke is the victim. 
Bairre was trying to cut right and left his knee out. Cooke was trying to cut left to still make his check. 
DT
The arrow at the end points that out. The problem is if you watch the video, it is his other knee that whips laterally when he hit the ice.
This was not a suspension in the eyes of the NHL.
Not done debating yet… 
Lets pray for 4 games. 
And thanks to the poster for debunking the hit in last nights wings bruins game…
7 games dam it!
Now I am wondering why we were arguing. I figured he’d be suspended. I think 7 games is a bit much, but not a surprise. I was hoping against hope it would be 3-5.
My bad on the minor tiff.
Anywho… HERE WE GO WILD HERE WE GO!
Time for Nino to step up!
Mine too. I have been annoyed at listening to some talking heads in the media.
I have no problem with the 7 games, history comes into play no doubt. What I have a BIG problem with is Johnson beating on Parise’s head, right in from the ref multiple times and not so much as a penalty. I wish the NHL could review stuff like that and give out “fines and suspensions” (in the famous voice of Marty O’Neil, for you old guys)
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