Looks like Dakota county is trying to move ahead with plans for the spring lake park.
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EMINENT DOMAIN. Spring Lake Mn
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February 19, 2014 at 6:49 am #1389817
I gotta agree. That land is worth a lot more than $370k. If they don;t want to sell, it’s priceless.
-J.
February 19, 2014 at 6:53 am #1389821Not sure what to make of that story. County coming in to take my little slice of heaven? Think I would be stock piling guns and ammo. On the other hand from what I have seen of that property from the river the current owners dont seem to be showing it the love they claim to have for it. Leaves me to wonder if they not just holding out for more money. $370k to 10 acres of river front seems a little cheap .
Still have to side with the property owners on this. Turn the place into a grave yard before you come steal my land.
February 19, 2014 at 7:07 am #1389825As long as they aren’t letting toxic waste run into the river, do what you want. 10 acres of river front property for $370k, BS. How anyone can support the government take over of someone’s property is beyond me.
February 19, 2014 at 7:22 am #1389828I agree the park would be nice but not at the price of taking it from an unwilling seller. Government should not be able to come in and take your property.
February 19, 2014 at 7:25 am #1389830Amazing what they can do and how the courts typically side with the plaintiff in these cases. I understand that there is a need for eminent claims, buts way out of hand and used too dam easily. Went through this a few years ago with a pipeline going through our neighborhood. 36″ gas line with a 900 foot blast zone 300 feet from my house. His claim” once it’s in the ground everyone will forget about it. Take the offer or we file eminent domain and you’ll get next to nothing”
February 19, 2014 at 7:27 am #1389831pisses me right off. definitley makes you think slippery slope where does it end?
definitley need to get the local reps involved and create as much attention as possible.
February 19, 2014 at 8:11 am #1389839The Daytons had a big complex on Vermilion, I am sure people would like a park there too.
February 19, 2014 at 8:24 am #1389842The sisters do admit the property has fallen into disrepair since their father died, but they do want to clean it up and have dreams of living there again. Both told Fox 9 News that they are willing to part with a couple of acres for the park and trail, but the county wants it all.
I am sure this is BS –
Fallen in disrepair, lately? Give me a break. I bet the place hasn’t been touched for 4 years.
Too bad we don’t have “eye sore” laws where if you let the place go into complete disrepair – they do take it over and improve the property to the benefit of the neighbors that actually take care of their property.
If it is worth $1.3M – hit them with the valuation for their property tax. It will be gone – once they get the bill.
I would prefer to see both sides of the story – rather then reading some news story that needs a victim to be newsworthy.
2 cents
Dog
February 19, 2014 at 8:46 am #1389847PROPERTY ID: 30-03700-00-080
Tax Description:AUDITORS SUBDIVISION NO 45
8
ALL OF LOTS 1-2 & 3 & PT OF
TAXPAYER: NANCY ANN DREWS
Payable 2012Payable 2013
TARA ANN MAUCH
Estimated Market Value:263,800
250,900
13493 HILARY PATHHASTINGS MN 55033
Homestead Exclusion:10,464
0
Taxable Market Value:
253,336
250,900
New Imp/Expired Excl:
0
0
Property Class:
RESD HSTD
RES NON HSTD
February 19, 2014 at 8:51 am #1389848This property is no more run down that many cabins up north. They have no neighbors. Only way to see the property is from a boat. To me, it’s a dream location. Lakeshore with a harbor and acreage. Easily worth a million plus to any developer who wants to put McMansions up on the property.
These people should be left alone if they don’t want to sell.
-J.
February 19, 2014 at 9:04 am #1389851This is all I need to know:
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Mississippi River near Hastings where the county wants to build a bike trail.
This is monkeybuttizing the eminent domain rule. And it can be the perfect tool to wield one’s desires onto others by forcing them out for the “common” good.
Personally I think eminent domain should only be used for infrastructure be it road, rail, gas lines, etc.
February 19, 2014 at 9:05 am #1389852I agree that they shouldn’t have to sell –
I am just saying they should be careful with $1.3M and letting the property go to eyesore state.
Seems like they want their cake and eat it too.
Dog
PS – I would like the place for my river cabin….:)
February 19, 2014 at 9:06 am #1389853A bike path or a park should not fall under eminent domain. It is a luxury, not a necessity.
February 19, 2014 at 9:10 am #1389855Quote:
This is all I need to know:
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Mississippi River near Hastings where the county wants to build a bike trail.
This is monkeybuttizing the eminent domain rule. And it can be the perfect tool to wield one’s desires onto others by forcing them out for the “common” good.
Personally I think eminent domain should only be used for infrastructure be it road, rail, gas lines, etc.
Agreed. A park and hiking path is not vital. Buy them out at their price or back off.
February 19, 2014 at 9:12 am #1389856
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Seems like they want their cake and eat it too.
Sounds like the American Dream, Huh?
-J.
nhammInactiveRobbinsdalePosts: 7348February 19, 2014 at 9:27 am #1389866This seems to be a bittersweet from your guys details. Anytime the government takes anything over its a tragedy, but what if a developer does come in, and make Mcmansions and our water ways become that much filthier from the lawn chems, cause we all know rich people like their huge green lawns weed free. I’d rather have bike paths and parks setup to keep the waters as decent as possible from the impending construction that will eventually fall to all waterfront one day. Maybe being proactive and getting the property now is a good thing. Price does seem a bit low.
Tom SawvellInactivePosts: 9559February 19, 2014 at 9:46 am #1389872Quote:
Personally I think eminent domain should only be used for infrastructure be it road, rail, gas lines, etc.
Roads, sewer, water…..I’ll buy that. The railroads? Forget it. They don’t need any help but they do need to have some rules imposed and be forced to tighten up their ship.
Instead of taking away this property, why doesn’t the state step up and tell the county they can’t just make a park on a whim out of someone else’s property unless said property is willed to the county.
And on eminent domain period….why not use it to take control over Mille Lacs, Red Lake and other indian owned lands that WE are paying for.
February 19, 2014 at 9:50 am #1389876That’s called giving up and being unfair. I’d rather see a developer come in and pay them off and put McMansions up. Then the city will have extra money to build bike paths somewhere else from the new revenue. As it stands, they are taking away revenue and adding cost.
February 19, 2014 at 10:20 am #1389881Since they already bought Bud’s Landing, why don’t they just go ahead with the boat ramp and finish the bike path phase of the project later, when the owners decide to sell. I’m sure it’ll happen sooner or later.
February 19, 2014 at 10:24 am #1389883Because the boat ramp was just to gain wider support by drawing in boat owners. This project is really for the granola crowd.
February 19, 2014 at 10:24 am #1389884It would be nice to follow this all the way back to the individual(s) pushing it from Hastings and find out what their motivation is because I’m curious what would drive someone to forcibly take another’s land in this situation.
My guess is simple vanity.desperadoPosts: 3010February 19, 2014 at 10:41 am #1389891Quote:
I’m curious what would drive someone to forcibly take another’s land in this situation.
My guess is simple vanity.
hmmmm, let’s see; the stance of the county is basically this …
We have determined a usage for this land which is better than (and more important than) the way in which the OWNERS are using it; therefor, we should force such usage upon the owners.
Ya, “vanity” might be a good word.February 19, 2014 at 10:44 am #1389892The use of eminent domain is being used in other places in the state. In the case sited below Olmsted County wants to impose it on 47 parcels! If you read this article you can see the local township is taking a closer look at the imposition. If you own property on, in, or near woods or water you should take note of these actions. Who knows where ED will be used next?
February 19, 2014 at 11:15 am #1389913Quote:
The use of eminent domain is being used in other places in the state. In the case sited below Olmsted County wants to impose it on 47 parcels! If you read this article you can see the local township is taking a closer look at the imposition. If you own property on, in, or near woods or water you should take note of these actions. Who knows where ED will be used next?
They could couple it with the threat of AIS and remove boat landings.
February 19, 2014 at 11:20 am #1389918ED (no not that sort of ED) for “public use” is bad enough. I really get steamed when they use ED based upon “wider/greater economic benefit” and award property ownership to another commercial entity, that’s bonfire and pitchfork time in my opinion.
February 19, 2014 at 12:24 pm #1389940In Carver County, they (The Board of Commissioners) Will NOT use Eminent Domain for buying Park Land.
Really only used for Road & Bridge Projects. Then, only as a last resort to keep the Road/Bridge Construction on schedule.
IMHO, even if the parcel was vacant, it would still fetch over $1 million on the open market, probably closer to $4-$5 million.
A good friend sold his 3/4 acre double lot on Lake Minnetonka with a tear down home for $2 million to a neighbor that owned the McMansion next door.
From Google Earth and other views of this property I would think they could easily get $2 million per lot with 3-4 lots out of this parcel.
Hope the family/Sisters win this battle
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