Would you want your kids competing over there in Commie land? Seems the terrorist are making life miserable for Comrade Putin. 
Personally I wouldn’t want anybody close to me over there, however I can think of a few people I would like to send there. 
They should cancel, going to be too cold in Russia.
If there is a significant attack I wonder if it will be the tipping point where there would be a no holds barred war on terror. I’m not talking your fathers war on terror, I’m talking a multi national, no boundaries respected, no weapon too destructive, all out turn over every stone, no apology for collateral damage, extermination of terrorists. Or we could just embrace each other in a world wide hug and turn the other cheek. I’m no commie lover, but I defiantly would not want them pi$$ed off and hunting me down.
Some countries need to bring back LA guillotine!! Liberty, equality, fraternity or Death!
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If there is a significant attack I wonder if it will be the tipping point where there would be a no holds barred war on terror. I’m not talking your fathers war on terror, I’m talking a multi national, no boundaries respected, no weapon too destructive, all out turn over every stone, no apology for
collateral damage, extermination of terrorists. Or we could just embrace each other in a world wide hug and turn the other cheek. I’m no commie lover, but I defiantly would not want them pi$$ed off and hunting me down.
I do not know about world wide but I’ll wager a percentage of the Muslim population would cease to exist in Eastern Europe and Asia. I don’t believe Putin would leave an attack unpunished or unresolved.
I do not live in fear in my regular life. This however is a completely different situation, and it would be in the back of my mind. If I were to go there, I would stay away from the opening ceremony, and anything that would have the most people at it in a confined space. As far as eliminating terrorists, I don’t think that is possible. I can’t imagine how to stop people that have so little to live for. How do you stop people that can be so easily convinced that strapping a bomb to themselves and killing as many people is their calling in life, or their prophecy to their god?
I hate to think as a terrorist, but if I were to have maximum impact it would involve a large attack on a crowd comprising of mostly westerners especially Americans. That would make it not just a Russian issue. That is why I believe it would be a multinational, worldwide response to an attack.
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I do not live in fear in my regular life. This however is a completely different situation, and it would be in the back of my mind. If I were to go there, I would stay away from the opening ceremony, and anything that would have the most people at it in a confined space. As far as eliminating terrorists, I don’t think that is possible. I can’t imagine how to stop people that have so little to live for. How do you stop people that can be so easily convinced that strapping a bomb to themselves and killing as many people is their calling in life, or their prophecy to their god?
It appears the strategy for addressing the suicide bomber is to make it well known that their friends, family, and relatives including children would pay the consequence of their actions.
That doesn’t happen in a civilized country, or not out in the open anyway. Russia would fall into this category. How does anyone start killing friends and family of a terrorist with no proof they are guilty of anything? Many times people that are converted to be a terrorist had someone they were close to killed, and that may be all the fuel needed to convince them. I’m sure killing children won’t stimulate the availability of new terrorists around the globe.
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It appears the strategy for addressing the suicide bomber is to make it well known that their friends, family, and relatives including children would pay the consequence of their actions.
These kids are raised to hate the West the same way you were raised to think Bugs Bunny is cool.
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That doesn’t happen in a civilized country, or not out in the open anyway. Russia would fall into this category. How does anyone start killing friends and family of a terrorist with no proof they are guilty of anything? Many times people that are converted to be a terrorist had someone they were close to killed, and that may be all the fuel needed to convince them. I’m sure killing children won’t stimulate the availability of new terrorists around the globe.
Granted these repercussions to the terrorists family would not be highly visible, but how else to deter the initial action on their part short of them knowing that as a result of their action their families would suffer. As far as proof of guilt, modern forensics enables us to make a fairly certain the identity of perpetrators.
That may be true, but are you going to go over to who knows where and start killing children? I bet not. Do we ask our soldiers to go into a village and open fire on everyone because someone that came from there blew people up. It could be that many would deserve to be shot, but that is a knee jerk reaction. I am just as disgusted with terror cells around the world, but be realistic.
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These kids are raised to hate the West the same way you were raised to think Bugs Bunny is cool.
I can see Russia going stone age on its attackers but not our own Obumble.
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That may be true, but are you going to go over to who knows where and start killing children? I bet not. Do we ask our soldiers to go into a village and open fire on everyone because someone that came from there blew people up. It could be that many would deserve to be shot, but that is a knee jerk reaction. I am just as disgusted with terror cells around the world, but be realistic.
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These kids are raised to hate the West the same way you were raised to think Bugs Bunny is cool.
Tell that to the inhabitants of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
I have no problem with taking out people that are involved, but my point is you said making it clear to any would be terrorist that their family and friends would be wiped out including children as a deterrent. There was no mention of the family and friends being guilty.
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Granted these repercussions to the terrorists family would not be highly visible, but how else to deter the initial action on their part short of them knowing that as a result of their action their families would suffer. As far as proof of guilt, modern forensics enables us to make a fairly certain the identity of perpetrators.
As far as proof of guilt, modern forensics enables us to make a fairly certain the identity of perpetrators
Nice, you got me there. Just so I get this straight. You are equating a country waging war against another country in the 40’s to a terror cell that may be a dozen people envolved killing a few hundred people or more as justification to dropping a nuclear bomb on a country they are from. What if a Minnesotan was to blame for an attack at the games? It could happen. With that mentality then Russia is justified to send a nuke our way. I can tell this is turning into beating a dead horse.
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Tell that to the inhabitants of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
So what is your strategy for deterring a terrorist who is dead as a result of their own action,as in suicide bombing?
Also, the retribution would be scaled to the level of the incident. The Israelis kind of have this strategy figured out.
This wasn’t intended to get political. I was just wondering if you would allow or want your loved one’s at Sochi.
That is the problem, I don’t think there is a way to stop it. I am glad you brought up Israel. They have terrorist bombings all the time. It is so common there, that unless dozens are killed it doesn’t make the news here. If they have things figured out, why do they continue to be bombed? I think we should just let this thread die.
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So what is your strategy for deterring a terrorist who is dead as a result of their own action,as in suicide bombing?
Also, the retribution would be scaled to the level of the incident. The Israelis kind of have this strategy figured out.
How is this political, no mention of dems or reps. Also, my son isn’t going to Sochi, but he is going to Afghanistan in April…and its not for vacation.
I’ll pray for him. Tell him to keep his head down and stay safe.
Thank him for his service. 
Thank you, and I will pass it on to him.
If anything happens I think the Russians will roll into The Caucus region and tear it up.
To answer the question, I wouldn’t want my kids going just to watch but would support their decision to participate.
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If anything happens I think the Russians will roll into The Caucus region and tear it up.
They got spanked in Afghanistan, I don’t know if they’ve forgotten that yet.
I think something bad is going to happen sometime during the event. Just got a bad feeling hope I’m wrong.
The USSR invaded Afghanistan with designs on adding it to their territory with the rest of the world against that action. The afgans were supported by western nations including the US. An attack originating out of the Caucuses against Russia and western nations would result in a heavy measure that would not be mitigated by anyone of any real ability. Plus Russia controls their borders and once closed the terrorists and their supporters would have no place to hide or retreat to.
So making a parking lot of the whole middle east would be wrong??
I’m beginning to get a little more concerned about the Super Bowl. An attack there would be a statement more on the West than in Russia. Afterall, the game is in a part of our country they have liked to target before.
The fact is, people who don’t value life will and believe they are promised salvation will do whatever they want. I would say we can be diligent about paying attention to our surroundings and hope just maybe we can preempt an attack. Unlikely I know, we are not trained for this, but just like the classes I took for CC. Pay attention. We watch water flow, we watch feeding patterns, think about your focus in the “field”. As outdoorsman, we are probably trained better than anyone. Ya, it stinks, but part of me believes it’s our society now days. Society is far different than many of us group in. Street lights on and it’s time to go home is long gone.
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I’m beginning to get a little more concerned about the Super Bowl. An attack there would be a statement more on the West than in Russia. Afterall, the game is in a part of our country they have liked to target before.
The thing is the region between the Black Sea and the Caspian Sea has a high population of Muslin people. Russia hasn’t been the kindest to them and that has resulted in issues in Georgia and Chechnya. The 2 guys that planted the bombs at the Boston Marathon were originally from that region. Obviously they don’t like us very much but they absolutely hate Moscow. Pulling off a terror act at the Olympics would be a big deal for them. Hopefully our Olympic team is housed a long way from the Russian team.
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