Makes me wonder why????????????????

  • Brian Hoffies
    Land of 10,000 taxes, potholes & the politically correct.
    Posts: 6843
    #1356714

    Why I’ve never seen a school bus with rust.

    icenutz
    Aniwa, WI
    Posts: 2540
    #1381746

    Good point!

    suzuki
    Woodbury, Mn
    Posts: 18625
    #1381747

    How many govt vehicles are used long enough to rust? They just replace them with unlimited funds.

    gary d
    cordova,il
    Posts: 1125
    #1381751

    My wife drove school bus for 20 years. You have to go to smaller school dist. to see him. Believe me if a school owns it own bus’s you will see rusty ones. The school dist now leasts the buses now and they are all new buses every year. bus drivers say happy,happy

    phoyem
    Minneapolis
    Posts: 357
    #1381759

    It’s rare because they are driven so many miles. Most have too many miles and become unreliable before there’s time for rust to set in.

    munchy
    NULL
    Posts: 4931
    #1381769

    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CCsQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nasdpts.org%2FDocuments%2FPaper-BusReplacement.pdf&ei=rATgUrO4Du66yAGry4C4Aw&usg=AFQjCNF68MGg1dzPrLww60ZEal9Vtcw9Uw&sig2=3vjBAxpg5BNio2rBdxWIxw

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    Second, whenever the operating and maintenance expenses on a school bus, or group of school buses, reaches a certain level, it appears that the better economic decision would be to purchase a new bus rather than continue to maintain the older school bus. This is the classical cost/benefit analysis. Do the benefits of buying a new school bus offset the costs?
    It is widely accepted that it is more costly to operate and maintain older school buses than newer school buses. However, the vehicle age at which the total operating costs of an older bus versus a newer bus becomes intolerable is not an exact science. In the mid-1980s, independent studies of annual school bus operating costs were conducted in California and Washington. Both studies reached the same conclusion – after 12 years of use, the annual operating costs of Type C and D school buses began to increase significantly and continued an annual increase each year thereafter.


    Outdraft
    Western Wi.
    Posts: 1149
    #1381789

    Just wondering when will those funds arrive, and who to contact about getting them

    gbfan10
    Hastings, mn
    Posts: 351
    #1381798

    Fire trucks are never rusty either, neither are police cars.. etc.

    the_grump
    Le Center
    Posts: 612
    #1381835

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    Fire trucks are never rusty either, neither are police cars.. etc.


    . Have you ever priced out a firetruck, trust me they get washed everytime they touch a salty road. Plus most small towns need to make them last 30 yrs

    BBKK
    IA
    Posts: 4033
    #1381837

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    Fire trucks are never rusty either, neither are police cars.. etc.


    They all get washed and taken care of every day. Police cars are run through the car wash after every 2nd shift in the winter. Fire trucks are washed every afternoon unless they are busy. Lives depend on them being in tip top shape.

    School buses are washed at the district wash very regularly as well. I cannot say every day, but probably pretty close to that. They only last for 5-6 years before they are decommissioned for safety and economical reasons.

    18fisher
    Hastings,MN
    Posts: 412
    #1381852

    The city of Hastings still uses their ladder truck that is from 1976. They are finally replacing it and I believe the cost is a cool $1 million.

    I have never seen a dirty fire truck

    splitshot
    Rosemount, MN
    Posts: 544
    #1381855

    Most other state vehicles are leased from a separate state organization (run by Dept. of Administration – I think?) that is called “Travel Management.” All other agencies lease vehicles from that unit of government and pay a monthly fee to have/drive the vehicle. They have to follow mandated maintenance/PM schedules per the lease. Generally, the leased vehicles is then traded off after 90,000 miles are logged onto it. This doesn’t always happen though because some agencies drive very little and some drive a lot. I turn 100K miles easy in 3 years on mine, so I usually get a new leased vehicle every 3-4 years. With that lease, we are mandated to care for the vehicle as if it is our own. I wash mine when it really needs it, but not more than once every week or every other week. Sometimes it goes for weeks without a wash though, depending on weather and where I have to go with it.
    Anyone can bid on the resale of these vehicles from the Travel Management auctions (Google it). The state then buys in fleet bulk of a certain kind of vehicle every year for replacements. As a driver, you basically get what they get dealt with in the bulk fleet purchase (normally 4-6 different types of vehicles).
    as far as buying a used one, remember, the agency that runs this does VERY LITTLE pm/maintenance. Oils at 5’s, air filter at 30, tire rotations at 20’s and nothing else unless it breaks. By the time it hits 100K, everything generally needs to be fixed, because there is no preventative maintenance done.
    …..And now you know the rest of the story.

    carroll58
    Twin Cities, USA
    Posts: 2094
    #1381857

    Quote:


    Fire trucks are never rusty either, neither are police cars.. etc.



    I used to work for a County Public Works/Highway Department.
    Sheriff’s Vehicles after 130,000-150,000 got pushed down the ladder so to speak. Either to Detectives, then to County Engineer & Engineering staff, Parks Director & Parks staff, Social Services Director & staff. They had all seen their 9-lives before the County got rid of them. The Sheriff had 3-Full-time Mechanics that maintained ALL of the County Vehicles.
    In 1994 I occasionally drove a very Rusty 86 Buick Century with 300,000+ miles got retired when I reported a bad shimmy while driving 169 & 694 (Scary ride) to Arden Hills for a training day.

    We then got a 93 Crown Victoria with 180,000. That was still there when I left in 2002 with 250,000+ miles, still running good, but rusty.

    desperado
    Posts: 3010
    #1382170

    maybe it would help him out if somebody who knows of one would supply GPS coordinates

    Brian Hoffies
    Land of 10,000 taxes, potholes & the politically correct.
    Posts: 6843
    #1382193

    Geez………..what did I start here???

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