moral advice needed, you be the judge

  • BBKK
    IA
    Posts: 4033
    #1379570

    I never said it was alright I just told you what would happen.

    Putting a perm on top a public fish crib and then throwing sand around it so nobody else can drill close to your perm (on the fish crib) is a d1ck move… plain and simple. Those fish cribs are for the public to use, not one person to claim.

    If you parked a perm on top of a fish crib I knew about and wanted to fish, and you were not in it.. I’d be popping holes around it too.

    jigmasterflex
    Lake Wissota, Wisconsin
    Posts: 134
    #1379574

    so in Wisconsin it is legal to leave a tree stand that does not damage the tree up during the gun deer season, would it be justified if you wanted to hunt that area and saw that there was a stand there to set fire to the tree, or might it be better to just find another equally good tree to sit in

    timmy
    Posts: 1960
    #1379541

    You are missing an easy solution….. Pull your house AND spread the area with sand.

    Win win!

    What is the actual WI law as far as distance you have to maintain from another shelter?

    T

    jigmasterflex
    Lake Wissota, Wisconsin
    Posts: 134
    #1379576

    don’t believe they were legally in the wrong, there shouldn’t be a law needed to enforce what should already be a given, I usually just trout fish and wade rivers in the summer and never see a soul, but on the ice there is nowhere to hide from people who seem to be more and more brazen with how close they feel comfortable fishing to others

    life1978
    Eau Claire , WI
    Posts: 2790
    #1379578

    Happens a lot on that lake. I had a guy drill a hole and sit on his bucket 3 feet in front of my flip over this weekend. On the positive side he was so close my Marcum screwed up the signal on his Hummingbird. We were talking to him when we were packing up. in the hour he was there before we left he caught 3 fish we got 20. But his flasher didn’t work right being that close to mine either. My opinion it’s a public lake. You were there first. It’s a dick move to fish that close. Public crib or not.

    life1978
    Eau Claire , WI
    Posts: 2790
    #1379579

    Quote:


    so in Wisconsin it is legal to leave a tree stand that does not damage the tree up during the gun deer season, would it be justified if you wanted to hunt that area and saw that there was a stand there to set fire to the tree, or might it be better to just find another equally good tree to sit in


    On public land we can’t leave them up for 24 hrs I thought? New here just a question.

    life1978
    Eau Claire , WI
    Posts: 2790
    #1379580

    Quote:


    You are missing an easy solution….. Pull your house AND spread the area with sand.

    Win win!

    What is the actual WI law as far as distance you have to maintain from another shelter?

    T


    I like this idea. Won’t hurt chipper blades anyway. I was looking for the regulations and can’t find any.

    BBKK
    IA
    Posts: 4033
    #1379584

    Quote:


    so in Wisconsin it is legal to leave a tree stand that does not damage the tree up during the gun deer season, would it be justified if you wanted to hunt that area and saw that there was a stand there to set fire to the tree, or might it be better to just find another equally good tree to sit in


    No, its not legal to leave a tree stand on public land.

    jigmasterflex
    Lake Wissota, Wisconsin
    Posts: 134
    #1379585

    just want to voice one more time that the sand thing was more or less me venting, would be a little funny but in hindsight probably should have left that out, “well that escalated quickly” seems to sum up where this thread went, I’m gunna hit a couple other spots and find somewhere else on that lake to put it when I get a chance, it just seems like a damned if you do damned if you don’t scenario to me, either I fish outside and everyone sees a portion of the fish you catch or you fish inside and people rush to every perm. to see whats under it, I just don’t like dragging a portable everywhere I go, feel terrible for the other guy that fished that string of cribs now that an impending shanty town is about to form, I think next time I see him I’ll see if he wants to come with and catch some 14 inch perch and chase a few gators

    vikefanmn77
    Northfield,MN
    Posts: 1493
    #1379595

    Wouldn’t say you’re neither right or wrong, but this is what you deal with on public waters. Have to expect a complete lack of respect these days.

    castle-rock-clown
    Posts: 2596
    #1379607

    So, say I’m a bass fanatic who lives on a lake and builds this pier for fishing off of, am I allowed to shag others away that toss lures from their boat in close proximity to my pier when I’m not fishing on it.

    BBKK
    IA
    Posts: 4033
    #1379608

    Throw sand at them

    castle-rock-clown
    Posts: 2596
    #1379609

    Quote:


    Throw sand at them


    For the record I neither like bass, nor do I own lakefront property therefore have no pier. But, I’m just sayn, like you know…really. omg. Fer sure.

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    #1379625

    How about if PETA bought a big trailer and parked it on those cribs and left it vacant because fishing hurts?

    jigmasterflex
    Lake Wissota, Wisconsin
    Posts: 134
    #1379630

    So if you’re walleye fishing and pick up a pile of fish off a rock bar and one boat motors up and drops in on it and them two, three, four boats and they hit that same rock pile they never knew was there repeatedly until it becomes too much of a hassle to fish and you leave and get on fish on a cluster of stumps and once again get overrun by a half dozen boats, that is the frustration that I’m talking about, clueless people praying to god someone knows where to find fish and fishing right on top of them, key element being clueless if those guys and the others from my hometown knew why the fish were there/what was down there it would be a different deal entirely

    castle-rock-clown
    Posts: 2596
    #1379640

    Have you been to Deere, Winneconi, Petenwell dam, pool 4 in the spring, not to mention several other areas? Sometimes the boats are so close you could almost walk across them. It’s the nature of the beast…its called fishing. If you don’t like crowds, go to northern Ontario or something. Your beef is akin to someone complaining about Summerfest being crowded.

    life1978
    Eau Claire , WI
    Posts: 2790
    #1379655

    Wow. I’m kind of surprised by how many people here think its ok to park right on another persons door to fish.

    jigmasterflex
    Lake Wissota, Wisconsin
    Posts: 134
    #1379657

    Fished all those spots and the same problem persists the knowledgeable anglers give each other space or in areas where space is limited (depere) fish in a courteous manner as to not impede others, and the guys without a clue watch for hook sets and pile on to anyone catching fish, now I’m really not sure how anyone could side with those idiots, it’s really nice to be able to b.s. out on the ice and share some information and I’d do that for anyone anytime but when you barge right in and urine me off forget the good natured feelings

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    #1379659

    Quote:


    Wow. I’m kind of surprised by how many people here think its ok to park right on another persons door to fish.




    For me it depends on the circumstance. I’m not going to impede on people while they are fishing. However an unoccupied house is not a stake to a claim. I’d have no problem fishing up to 10′ of an unoccupied house.

    A better strategy would have been parking a permanent nearby and fishing the cribs outside or in a potable or moving it back when you are out there to fish.

    Parking the house on top of a crib on a lake that is known to have cribs to me is like putting up a billboard that reads, fish here.

    big_g
    Isle, MN
    Posts: 22538
    #1379684

    Doesn’t the wind sometimes “move” perms off of areas…

    life1978
    Eau Claire , WI
    Posts: 2790
    #1379704

    So everyone with a permenant shack is supposed to just fish and open area with no stucture? Or are they supposed to pick em up and move them everytime they leave?

    big_g
    Isle, MN
    Posts: 22538
    #1379715

    yes move them off the structure each time you leave and I am betting all would be good Hey stuff happens when your fishing !!!

    BBKK
    IA
    Posts: 4033
    #1379736

    Quote:


    So everyone with a permenant shack is supposed to just fish and open area with no stucture? Or are they supposed to pick em up and move them everytime they leave?


    No, you can park it on top of structure if you want.. but that doesn’t mean you just claimed it. If you park it over a fish crib, you better expect people to drill right next to it to still be able to fish the cib. Don’t be surprised when people drill all around it when you are not there.

    life1978
    Eau Claire , WI
    Posts: 2790
    #1379737

    Quote:


    yes move them off the structure each time you leave and I am betting all would be good Hey stuff happens when your fishing !!!


    Sounds ok? I have a flip over so no big thing. But someday I might get a permenent.

    life1978
    Eau Claire , WI
    Posts: 2790
    #1379738

    Quote:


    Quote:


    So everyone with a permenant shack is supposed to just fish and open area with no stucture? Or are they supposed to pick em up and move them everytime they leave?


    No, you can park it on top of structure if you want.. but that doesn’t mean you just claimed it. If you park it over a fish crib, you better expect people to drill right next to it to still be able to fish the cib. Don’t be surprised when people drill all around it when you are not there.


    I’d fully expect people to be around me. Just would want to be able to get in my door.

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    #1379740

    Quote:


    So everyone with a permenant shack is supposed to just fish and open area with no stucture? Or are they supposed to pick em up and move them everytime they leave?


    And the flip side is, is someone supposed to stay away from an area because there is a vacant shack?

    This is an obvious gray issue, but if everyone was just courteous and polite.

    Who’s the bigger dik, the guy who plants a perm on a spot and expects no one to fish within a 50 yard radius even when he is not there? Or is it the dik who is so ticked that your perm is sitting there that he wants to burn it down or takes a dump at the door for when the guy returns?

    BBKK
    IA
    Posts: 4033
    #1379743

    Pug you forgot the part about throwing sand around it to ruin the augers of guys trying to fish over his spot.

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    #1379745

    Quote:


    I’d fully expect people to be around me. Just would want to be able to get in my door.


    I think we can all agree that was a [censored] move. Personally I’d have a hard time setting up shop that close to a permanent even if it was vacant. I’m not big on confrontation and you know if a guy sees you butted up against his perm while he is driving out, by the time he gets there he’s going to be irate.

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    #1379747

    Quote:


    Pug you forgot the part about throwing sand around it to ruin the augers of guys trying to fish over his spot.


    I take him at his word when he said he didn’t really intend on doing that and that he was just heated up. I’ve said some pretty dumb things when stewing, so I can relate.

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