redneck

  • castle-rock-clown
    Posts: 2596
    #1356382

    So, I’ve heard this term thrown about, who can tell me it’s origins and what it meant based on its history.

    BBKK
    IA
    Posts: 4033
    #1373196

    I have always heard it was a term used for a southern farm boy. They would get red…necks… when working in the fields all day. No idea if it is valid or not.

    trumar
    Rochester, Mn
    Posts: 5967
    #1373202

    It has something to do with miners and a certain group of men wore a red scarf around their neck

    This was on the history channel also..

    red neck

    castle-rock-clown
    Posts: 2596
    #1373203

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    It has something to do with miners and a certain group of men wore a red scarf around their neck

    This was on the history channel also..

    We have a winner. In W Virginia the northern miners who were unionized went to support the southern W virginia miners who were trying to unionize but met strong resistance from the mine owners who hired security firms to strongarm the union organizers. The northern minors upon going to support their southern brothers knew there was going to be a war so to be able to identify friend from foe they tied red neckerchiefs around their necks. This was the first use of the term “redneck”

    red neck


    TheFamousGrouse
    St. Paul, MN
    Posts: 11832
    #1373204

    Quote:


    Quote:


    It has something to do with miners and a certain group of men wore a red scarf around their neck

    This was on the history channel also..

    We have a winner. In W Virginia the northern miners who were unionized went to support the southern W virginia miners who were trying to unionize but met strong resistance from the mine owners who hired security firms to strongarm the union organizers. The northern minors upon going to support their southern brothers knew there was going to be a war so to be able to identify friend from foe they tied red neckerchiefs around their necks. This was the first use of the term “redneck”

    red neck



    No, this is often cited, but incorrect. The term is much older than that.

    The term dates to the signing of the National Covenent in Scotland in 1638. The National Covenent stated that the people of Scotland desired the Presybyterian form of church (and hence to some degree local) governance.

    This was a significant rejection of the powers of the English monarchy and was almost unprecidented in Europe. It is difficult to state how radical of an act of civil disobediance this was for the time. Many political scientists point to this event as one of the founding moments of modern democracy.

    So strong did many signers of the National Covenant feel, that they signed in thier own blood. As a symbol of that blood signing, Covenant supporters wore red scarves around their necks and there are contemporary references to them as “red-necks” (and like spellings). The use was deragatory from the very start, for reasons that would take too long to explain here.

    The repercussions of this act of direct defiance of the King would play out over the next 200 years. Because this act drew social and political battle lines, many of the signers would end up first in Northern Ireland, and then immigrate to America.

    The red scarf still has political and social symbolisim in Scotland.

    Many Southern tradations and even the Southern accent itself owe their origins to Scotland.

    Grouse

    jon_jordan
    St. Paul, Mn
    Posts: 10908
    #1373205

    I go by the Jeff Foxworthy definition.

    -J.

    castle-rock-clown
    Posts: 2596
    #1373207

    Thank you grouse. Upon looking into this term it seems that it is bestowed to groups with strong convictions that are willing to perpetuate those ideals even at the expense of great bodily harm. To me not something taken lightly, but earned with blood. I hope I don’t offend any Foxwothy fans.

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    #1373224

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    I go by the Jeff Foxworthy definition.

    -J.



    Which fricken one!

    jeff_huberty
    Inactive
    Posts: 4941
    #1373230

    Quote:


    Quote:


    I go by the Jeff Foxworthy definition.

    -J.



    Which fricken one!


    If you have more than Ten recipes for Spam…..you might be a Redneck.

    big_g
    Isle, MN
    Posts: 22538
    #1373232

    I always thought he was a member here on IDO… and even a Redneck Jr

    desperado
    Posts: 3010
    #1373238

    it’s a derogatory term which is offensive to residents of rural areas nationwide

    and if you dare to utter it, they will rise up to perpetuate a media storm which will prevent you from ever appearing on cable television

    Mudshark
    LaCrosse WI
    Posts: 2973
    #1373247

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    it’s a derogatory term which is offensive to residents of rural areas nationwide
    and if you dare to utter it, they will rise up to perpetuate a media storm which will prevent you from ever appearing on cable televiaion


    mossydan
    Cedar Rapids, Iowa
    Posts: 7727
    #1373313

    I heard Rich ( Redneck) eats deep fried Spam, cornbread and taters with Possum gravy and onions all the time LOL.

    STEVES
    New Richmond, Wi
    Posts: 724
    #1373360

    Quote:


    Quote:


    I go by the Jeff Foxworthy definition.

    -J.



    Which fricken one!


    “If you think the nutcracker is something you do off the high dive…you might be a redneck”

    ccales
    Mpls, MN
    Posts: 78
    #1373424

    Grouse is the winner! Short version is it referred to Scottish Protestants.

    I’m neither Scottish or Protestant but everyone still calls me a redneck.

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