Disgusted!!

  • belletaine
    Nevis, MN
    Posts: 5116
    #1283773

    I don’t even know where to start. In my mind this one of the most DEPLORRABLE things I have heard in a very long time.

    Families of soldiers killed in action not getting their benifits due to the govt. shutdown. Honest to god I can’t even put my anger and disgust into words. The very “human beings” that caused this debacle are relaxing at home while the plane landed carrying the brave men who gave their lives in Afghanastan this past weekend for this country.

    The Fisher House charity stepped in to make things right for the families since these greedy self serving a$$h*#@s cannot put anything or anyone before their own agenda.

    I understand the rules here regarding political posts and I’m sorry for that but this is so completely immoral that it demands discussion.

    Young men leaving behind families and kids that will never remember their dad.

    It’s shameful and embarrasing.

    trumar
    Rochester, Mn
    Posts: 5967
    #1199441

    Here is to.. The Fisher House

    Thank You

    bullcans
    Northfield MN
    Posts: 2012
    #1199444

    I can’t agree with you more!!!!!!!

    My Dad was in the service for 30 yrs.

    I have not. However this is not morally right. So the guys fighting for us overseas are not getting paid either?

    This country is going to sh#&!

    grumpy
    Iowa, Clinton
    Posts: 489
    #1199456

    GOVERNMENT COWARDS

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    #1199458

    How do you live with yourself using soldiers as pawns? That’s as far as I will go out of respect of the fallen ones.

    85lund
    Menomonie, WI
    Posts: 2317
    #1199471

    Left or Right, if you don’t see this as wrong you are a poor example of an American! Thank You to all who served and to all those who gave their lives for our freedom! I am forever indebted to you

    big_g
    Isle, MN
    Posts: 22538
    #1199472

    What is also sad, is a trip through a VA Hospital… soldiers that served and survived, herded through like cattle. Don’t get me wrong, the VA does as much as they can with the funding they receive, but it should not come down to $$’s when talking about treating a veteran. I talk to quite a few that utilize the facilities in St Cloud and they all say, the Hospital does the best they can, but there is not enough staff and appointments, some wait months to get in. This is not something that happened recently because of the shutdown, this is always…

    robby
    Quad Cities
    Posts: 2829
    #1199479

    Our Government has failed.

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    #1199482

    Quote:


    What is also sad, is a trip through a VA Hospital… soldiers that served and survived, herded through like cattle. Don’t get me wrong, the VA does as much as they can with the funding they receive, but it should not come down to $$’s when talking about treating a veteran. I talk to quite a few that utilize the facilities in St Cloud and they all say, the Hospital does the best they can, but there is not enough staff and appointments, some wait months to get in. This is not something that happened recently because of the shutdown, this is always…



    You got that right. There is a program that should have more funds appropriated to it. Veteran care isn’t an entitlement, its a responsibility.

    Jim Kissinger
    Markesan WI
    Posts: 123
    #1199485

    Dont forget our leader that cant even salute his soldiers with out a cell phone in his hand and can show up to honor vets in the hospital or their families

    sinister-fishing
    Omaha, Ne for now
    Posts: 293
    #1199489

    Every single one of them should be fired!!! There all criminals that make us do things, then say they don’t have too. Fire them all!

    Randy Wieland
    Lebanon. WI
    Posts: 13651
    #1199512

    I’ve said it for years. We need to wipe t house e slate clean and start over. Too much bs politics and finger pionting. Need to get back to the priorities and do them right. In general, we need to reevaluate govt services and provide what is needed. Not a free for all level of of entitlement.

    belletaine
    Nevis, MN
    Posts: 5116
    #1199513

    Quote:


    What is also sad, is a trip through a VA Hospital… soldiers that served and survived, herded through like cattle. Don’t get me wrong, the VA does as much as they can with the funding they receive, but it should not come down to $$’s when talking about treating a veteran. I talk to quite a few that utilize the facilities in St Cloud and they all say, the Hospital does the best they can, but there is not enough staff and appointments, some wait months to get in. This is not something that happened recently because of the shutdown, this is always…


    So true Big G, whenever VA hospitals or care come up in conversation it almost always leads to some sort of comment or one-liner regarding sub-par care and treatment. These men and women deserve every resource possible to heal both mentally and physically,yet we continue to fall short…

    redneck
    Rosemount
    Posts: 2627
    #1199517

    The VA hospitals may be short of funding but the people there are amazing. My father-in-law passed away at the one in Minneapolis after a battle with cancer and everyone we dealt with there went above and beyond their duties to do everything they could for him. At the end he was suppose to be transferred to some hospice but the paperwork was convienently lost so the nurses he was comfortable with could take care of him his last days. Bad mouth the VA if you want but the men and women that work at the VA hospital in Minneapolis are some of the finest people I have ever met.

    belletaine
    Nevis, MN
    Posts: 5116
    #1199518

    Redneck, I’m in no way bad mouthing the VA, I’ve gotten care there and you’re right the people are amazing. I was just saying that they could use more support and resources.

    john23
    St. Paul, MN
    Posts: 2582
    #1199531

    This is the greatest country in the world, without a doubt. I can’t think of anything stupider than hitting the “reset” button. We still have the best government in the world despite its many, many, many faults.

    The Democrats voted the Affordable Care Act (“Obamacare”) into law along party lines. That was their right, even if it was short-sighted. They paid for it in the subsequent elections.

    The Republicans are using the country’s good faith and credit as a bargaining chip. That’s their right, even if it is short-sighted. I expect that they will pay for it in subsequent elections.

    That veteran’s benefits are being frozen out is deplorable.

    icefanatic11
    Nelsonville, WI
    Posts: 576
    #1199534

    I don’t normally get into these disputes but this is one I feel I am compelled to respond to. First of all I think john has hit the nail flush on the head here, reset is not the answer, I think “tweaking” is more of what is needed rather than overhaul. In many respects we are at fault for electing representatives and senators which have a history of just towing the party line and not being cavalier and stepping out of line and taking a stand for what is right rather than party allegiance.

    However this level of inactivity is ridiculous and appalling, this great country was founded on principles (liberty,righteousness many more) that apply to every citizen including the representatives. In my opinion our leaders have lost sight of their duty to this country and that is to be proactive and cooperative and make life BETTER for the Americans that are entrusting their voice with these people. Too much me in politics today and not nearly enough we, the only we is democrats or republicans not Americans. How do we fix it? Not sure but we can do our jobs as citizens and keep re-electing new leaders until we find one who aligns with our views, whatever they may be.

    kooty
    Keymaster
    1 hour 15 mins to the Pond
    Posts: 18101
    #1199535

    In my opinion, a real leader finds ways to resolve conflicts. Our country hasn’t had a real leader at President for many, many years.

    fishthumper
    Sartell, MN.
    Posts: 12103
    #1199540

    I am not sure how we go about doing a better job of electing better leaders when during elections they lie to us with almost every word out of their mouths. And most do not do what they say they will once elected. As far as finding leaders with OUR views – Maybe the leaders are being elected by the majority of people with the same Views as those elected. Maybe there are Just not enough People out there with OUR views. I say the way the system is set up now is BROKEN and if nothing is changed this country is headed in a way BAD direction.

    Paulski
    “Ever Wonder Why There Are No Democrats On Mount Rushmore ? "
    Posts: 1198
    #1199542

    Quote:


    In my opinion, a real leader finds ways to resolve conflicts. Our country hasn’t had a real leader at President for many, many years.


    x2 ….

    fishingdad
    Posts: 79
    #1199567

    I can not agree more this is terrible. These are the everyday heros that allow us to do the things we do in this country. Just remember this when you vote, it’s the only way to change things.

    Stan Jenson
    sw wisconsin
    Posts: 178
    #1199570

    The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. Republicans and Democrats keep getting elected so they think they are doing something right. Vote them out maybe they would realize they have to change their ways.

    suzuki
    Woodbury, Mn
    Posts: 18715
    #1199575

    They obviously cant see or don’t care past next week.

    Practically nobody can/does in this country.

    fishthumper
    Sartell, MN.
    Posts: 12103
    #1199584

    Quote:


    The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. Republicans and Democrats keep getting elected so they think they are doing something right. Vote them out maybe they would realize they have to change their ways.


    Have you ever thought that maybe the people who keep electing these people in don’t have a problem with the way things are? They get free Healthcare, Free Housing, free food, and don’t have to work for any of it. But don’t worry – It’s the greatest Government and System in the world !!!!

    suzuki
    Woodbury, Mn
    Posts: 18715
    #1199585

    Quote:


    Quote:


    The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. Republicans and Democrats keep getting elected so they think they are doing something right. Vote them out maybe they would realize they have to change their ways.


    Have you ever thought that maybe the people who keep electing these people in don’t have a problem with the way things are? They get free Healthcare, Free Housing, free food, and don’t have to work for any of it. But don’t worry – It’s the greatest Government and System in the world !!!!


    ding ding ding. Winner. The takers now out-number and out- vote the givers. Once that happens its basically over. They will vote us into oblivion. Its going to take exceptionally strong leadership, character and integrity from government officials to turn this thing around. Lots of people are going to have to give up lots of things and you know how difficult that would be. If not done willingly then we all crash.

    mxskeeter
    SW Wisconsin
    Posts: 3948
    #1199629

    All I know is that come next election it will not matter if he/she is an encumbent they will not get my vote. Don’t care if he/she is Democrat or Republican. Voting for all new people. Gonna try something different.

    cougareye
    Hudson, WI
    Posts: 4145
    #1199643

    Quote:


    ding ding ding. Winner. The takers now out-number and out- vote the givers. Once that happens its basically over. They will vote us into oblivion. Its going to take exceptionally strong leadership, character and integrity


    As the camel says on Wednesdays…….Mike, mike, mike, mike…

    The world is not failing, we are just succumbing to the news media hype of an apocalypse. There is so much good going on in this country, but it is not newsworthy and makes Limbaugh and Schultz zero dollars or ratings.

    This country is fine. Mistakes like this are made from time to time, but the sky is NOT falling.

    Is it worse that a MIA’s family is delayed benefits vs. an active government employees family is denied income??

    Both are sad, but it’s not over….

    ET

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    #1199646

    Our Democracy has turned into a Demagogueracy.

    stevew
    Burnsville, MN
    Posts: 412
    #1199678

    And the citizens are now subjects.

    Paulski
    “Ever Wonder Why There Are No Democrats On Mount Rushmore ? "
    Posts: 1198
    #1199688

    I disagree with the belief our country is fine. I fail to see how I am handing my children something better when the first thing they get to deal with is the below as we cannot seem to elect officials that do anything but what is in their best interests to get re-elected, not what is best for our country.

    United States Federal Debt
    16,966,461,000,000 Trillion

    Debt per Citizen $ 53,550.00
    Debt per Taxpayer $ 148,221.00

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