Solider dragged 1 mile under hit/run driver’s car.

  • TheFamousGrouse
    St. Paul, MN
    Posts: 11541
    #1283605

    It is unbeliveable to me that this kind of thing could happen in Minnesota. Two active-duty soliders run down like dogs in a crosswalk. In Roseville. In broad daylight.

    One solider became trapped under the vehicle and was dragged almost a mile. The perp then stopped and kicked him to get him loose, then got back in the vehicle and fled, leaving the injured solider laying in the road.

    http://www.twincities.com/crime/ci_24117621/roseville-army-recruiter-dragged-nearly-mile-by-hit

    This leaves me with two questions:

    1. Should public flogging be brought back as part of the punshment for crimes like this?

    2. Certainly, the perp should be charged with attempted murder and NOT the much lesser charges mentioned in the report? A perp hits someone with a car, drags them a mile, and then knowingly leaves the injured person laying in the road. If that is not attempted murder, what is?

    Needless to say, it will soon emerge that the perp had a long criminal record of vehicle offenses.

    Grouse

    bassmaster
    SE, MN
    Posts: 462
    #1195639

    Quote:


    1. Should public flogging be brought back as part of the punshment for crimes like this?


    Hell yes. Not just for this crime but many others as well.

    life1978
    Eau Claire , WI
    Posts: 2790
    #1195654

    Yes bring flogging back. Really what they should do is leave him at an army post and let them know what he did. or let the guy he hit have him for a while after he recovers.

    Chuck Melcher
    SE Wisconsin, Racine County
    Posts: 1966
    #1195655

    Trial… long court process, then we get to babysit and care for this guy for years (again), before he is reformed, and ready to be come a valuable asset in our society again. Right, I’m a little extreme…. take him out back and rid us of this trash on the spot. Post in on the web as an example.

    I hate the idea my tax dollars have to pay for people like this.

    baldwin4
    NE IA
    Posts: 736
    #1195657

    Possible hate crime?? Someone call Jessie Jackson and Sharpton..

    Maybe we should ban vehicles since they are the number 1 killer in the US….

    icenutz
    Aniwa, WI
    Posts: 2534
    #1195664

    Quote:


    Trial… long court process, then we get to babysit and care for this guy for years (again), before he is reformed, and ready to be come a valuable asset in our society again. Right, I’m a little extreme…. take him out back and rid us of this trash on the spot. Post in on the web as an example.

    I hate the idea my tax dollars have to pay for people like this.


    You are exactly right, damn shame for taxpayers to have to foot the bill for these useless pieces of dung.

    They need to have the chair in the courtroom and when you have a killer that is 100% guilty, have him strapped in as the verdict is read. When they say guilty, one of the victim’s family members gets to throw the switch. Maybe fake it a few times just to mess with them.

    Sorry but society has let this get to what it is today, nip it in the bud and it may cause a few of them to think before they pull the trigger. Just my opinion.

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    #1195669

    Quote:


    Taylor was carrying a large amount of cash, and Rosand said investigators suspect he had been panhandling in the parking lot of Crossroads of Roseville.



    Are you f’ing serious? This low life was panhandling?

    You know there are people who carry out far more heinous crimes who I can “sort of” sympathize with because they have serious mental issues. But this guy should just be taken out. I’d call him a piece of crap, but that would be an insult to sewage everywhere.

    TheFamousGrouse
    St. Paul, MN
    Posts: 11541
    #1195683

    Quote:


    Quote:


    Taylor was carrying a large amount of cash, and Rosand said investigators suspect he had been panhandling in the parking lot of Crossroads of Roseville.



    Are you f’ing serious? This low life was panhandling?


    Yes, I read that as well and even if it’s not P-C, I’m calling bullshift. There is no freaking way that anyone gets a “large amount of cash” by panhandling at a strip mall in Roseville.

    I’m sure it had to be included to provide some PC “balance”, but the real reason is here:

    “Taylor has an extensive criminal record and has been on the Roseville Police Department’s “radar” for years for suspected involvement in various theft and fraud incidents throughout the city, Rosand said.”

    Obviously, what we have here is a career criminal. He’s a perp, and he knows he’s a perp, and that’s why he ran like a scalded pig-dog.

    Currently, low-level career criminals like this perp continue to run rampant because there is no punsishment that is visible to them as a reminder of what may (finally) happen when they get caught.

    It’s the same thing with multiple drunk driving convictions. How many times do we read about someone getting into an accident and killing another driver, and then find out it’s the perp’s 6 DUI and they were driving with a revoked license, no insurance, etc.

    They do it because the consequences of getting caught do NOT register to them. Having the peanalty be a good public flogging and a bit of salt thrown on the wound for good measure would provide a totally new perspective for all the career perps out there.

    Grouse

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    #1195691

    It was the police that said he was panhandling though, right? I assume they assumed he was because they probably were mostly ones? And if you saw his picture in the article, you know he ain’t a stripper.

    deertracker
    Posts: 9163
    #1195696

    I just talked to a guy working one of our intersections yesterday. He said he makes about $100 the first hour he is there and then $50 to $75 the next few hours.

    DT

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    #1195713

    $100 an hour? At least CEOs do something for their money.

    dr-death
    Phillips, WI
    Posts: 155
    #1195722

    Quote:


    It is unbeliveable to me that this kind of thing could happen in Minnesota. Two active-duty soliders run down like dogs in a crosswalk. In Roseville. In broad daylight.

    One solider became trapped under the vehicle and was dragged almost a mile. The perp then stopped and kicked him to get him loose, then got back in the vehicle and fled, leaving the injured solider laying in the road.

    http://www.twincities.com/crime/ci_24117621/roseville-army-recruiter-dragged-nearly-mile-by-hit

    This leaves me with two questions:

    1. Should public flogging be brought back as part of the punshment for crimes like this?

    2. Certainly, the perp should be charged with attempted murder and NOT the much lesser charges mentioned in the report? A perp hits someone with a car, drags them a mile, and then knowingly leaves the injured person laying in the road. If that is not attempted murder, what is?

    Needless to say, it will soon emerge that the perp had a long criminal record of vehicle offenses.

    Grouse


    The soldier in question is my step son and I have known him since he was 13 months old. Back then, I called him my little Manswa. Travis was a veteran of Iraq & Afganistan and is a Seargeant First Class in the U.S. Army. Your thoughts and prayers are very much appreciated. Yes, there are some really bad people running around out there, and this guy should be taken to task with the maximum! I agree that he should be charged with attempted homicide, nothing less. Travis suffered a badly broken leg in the incident, and God knows what other injuries. He is in satisfactory condition at this time. That’s basically all I know at this time. Again, thanks guys for your concern…..

    p4walleye
    Rochester, MN
    Posts: 733
    #1195729

    prayers sent in many ways. unbelievable. Some people don’t learn and never willl. Put him away for good. 11 years ago I went and bought a lunch for a guy that was begging for cash and claiming he was hungry. Came out of the store and he was trying to sell it. Haven’t been hustled since. If people would quit giving handouts, they may have to actually be accountable for their actions, and try to get a job. The best thing you could do for a person in the long run is NOT give them a handout.

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #1195731

    Quote:


    The soldier in question is my step son and I have known him since he was 13 months old.


    Jez, sorry to hear this. Keep us posted on his (quick) recovery.

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #1195737

    Holy Crap!

    A person has to wonder why Taylor was even on the street!

    A convicted Felon.
    check forgery
    Assault 5th degree
    Terroristic threats
    Felony Assault
    Harassment
    Felony Harassment
    DOMESTIC ASSAULT IN THE FIFTH DEGREE – FEAR
    DOMESTIC ASSAULT IN THE FIFTH DEGREE – HARM
    TCIS Amended Charge) *SR*SIMPLE ROBBERY
    HARASSMENT/STALKING
    CHECK FORGERY-OFFER Felony
    Drugs – 5th Degree – Possess Schedule 1,2,3,4 – Not Small Amou
    FLEEING POLICE M/V Felony
    Assault-5th Deg-Inflict or Attempt Bodily Harm

    That might be 1/2 of them.

    I don’t understand. I know it’s hard to be a judge and have to make the decision of when and when not to take a persons freedom away from them…but…How many felonies does it take involving assault/violence?

    kooty
    Keymaster
    1 hour 15 mins to the Pond
    Posts: 18101
    #1195755

    Hoping Travis has a quick and full recovery! It’s best I don’t share my thoughts on how to handle habitual violent criminals. I’ll just keeping thinking about Travis’s recovery.

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    #1195772

    Quote:


    I don’t understand. I know it’s hard to be a judge and have to make the decision of when and when not to take a persons freedom away from them…but…How many felonies does it take involving assault/violence?



    It’s not that hard, they have guidelines. What we need to do is make these guidelines more severe and ease up on some of the people in jail for drug crimes.

    Back on point, I pray for a speedy and full recovery for Travis. Its amazing he wasn’t hurt worse than he was.

    Hunting4Walleyes
    MN
    Posts: 1552
    #1380049

    It’s nice to see the judge lay down the law on this guy. How many chances do you need. It looks like his pleas for a lighter sentence fell on deaf ears. He’ll have 16 years to think about this one.

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    jigmasterflex
    Lake Wissota, Wisconsin
    Posts: 134
    #1380081

    wouldn’t take much for a guard to start a rumor about him being a child molester, sounds like those guys don’t fair to well in the can, wish the best for your stepson and hope for a quick recovery

    TheFamousGrouse
    St. Paul, MN
    Posts: 11541
    #1380253

    Quote:


    It’s nice to see the judge lay down the law on this guy. How many chances do you need. It looks like his pleas for a lighter sentence fell on deaf ears. He’ll have 16 years to think about this one.

    KSTP Link


    It is disgraceful that this perp got away with such a light sentence, but the judge’s hands were tied. 16 years? One can only assume that he’ll be able to worm his way out of at least 4-5 years of that.

    It was at lest gratifying to hear that the POS cried and begged like a coward, only to get the max anyway. He would have been better off confessing to everything and pleading guilty rather than going through the trial.

    The ONLY good news is that one more piece of total garbage has been flushed from Minnesota’s streets for at least a decade. Not that that in any way makes up for the pain this perp caused.

    Grouse

    Hunting4Walleyes
    MN
    Posts: 1552
    #1380295

    Quote:


    It is disgraceful that this perp got away with such a light sentence, but the judge’s hands were tied. 16 years? One can only assume that he’ll be able to worm his way out of at least 4-5 years of that.


    Well of course 16 years is not fitting for the pain inflicted. I was just pointing out the fact that a lot of left leaning judges in this state would have lightened the sentence. You know, “it’s not his fault, he had a bad childhood” syndrome. Just look at his record, some judges must have given him some leniency if he’s on the streets to commit this crime.

    I personally would like to see the 3 strikes law enacted in Minnesota. We all know that won’t happen in a blue state but one can only hope. If we had the 3 strike law he would have never been able to injure these two innocent victims judging by his record that Brian quoted above.

    I’m not to sure about taking 3-4 years off the sentence either. I’m sure the victims will make pretty strong statements at any of his parole hearings. I really hope so anyway.

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