No one cares to comment? I just saw it on Yahoo this morning. Tough loss. I think Az State should have been flagged for delay of game, but the QB should have also been more composed and and got up to the line right away to spike it.
Unfortunately I didn’t get to see the game, but I was shocked to see that they lost by to freakin points 
The idiot shouldn’t have put the ballon the ground! Hello take a knee. Not a good day for big ten football
Badgers should have scored more points. I am wondering if the referees were the same ones that called the Packers Seattle game last year. Don’t they have a guy upstairs to look at that kind of thing?
I think he tried taking a knee and bumped into his player and then panicked and set the ball on the ground.
So I don’t know what the set up was. It was 1st and 10 and looked like he was just trying to get the ball spotted in the middle of the field by downing it? And right after is he trying to call a time out or get his players to the line by bringing his hands together above his head? Did they have any timeouts left?
In any event, I feel bad for the Badgers. Looks like the QB was pleading to the wrong ref, but that ref should have at least stopped the clock until the ball was set. Like I said though, the AZ State should have been flagged for delay of game.
That was a tough ending. Either way, the ref’s should have stopped the clock and then refused to allow the badgers to spike it.
I am sure some type of nice apology from the Pac 10 much like the Packers got from the NFL after they handed the 49ers a touchdown will come out tomorrow… 
Why would they have been flagged for delay of game?? They covered a loose ball. If the ball is put on the field it’s a fumble… You even said “he tried to take a knee”… Either you do or you don’t…if you don’t for whatever reason, you don’t. The ref’s made the right non call… In my opinion.
Wrong. If it was a fumble the clock should still have stopped, change of possession you know. But since they did not signal it as ASU ball then ASU should have been penalized for delay of game. In fact the refs did nothing which was wrong no matter what they were going to call. There either had to be a change of possession or delay penalty.
S/h/b delay of game, the way it was ruled, but that would have sucked for ASU. Especially since WI did not rush up to the line and try to snap it.
Very weird ending that I believe fooled the officials.
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The qb just sets the ball down and ASU player falls on it shouldn’t it be the sun devils ball? I’ve never seen in my life where a football player just sets the ball down 
Granted I don’t know any thing about college rules. When I read the article and made it sound like there was a rule where a QB can “Give himself up” like kneeling and sliding. That’s what I thought happened and that is what the official called. Now, whether or not it should have been called that way or you can give up or kneel that way, I have not clue.
Replay clearly shows that Stave touched the ground with his knee. And that was with 18 seconds left on the clock. Once the knee hits the ground, the play is dead. Setting the ball on the ground after that is not a fumble.
Stave’s mistake was that he didn’t hand the ball to an official which would have forced the ref to spot the ball, which the ref should have done anyway.
The ref appeared to intentionally run out the clock.
The Badger offense can not attempt to spike the ball or even hike the ball until the ref spots the ball, which he was not going to do with any amount of time left on the clock.
Regardless, I blame the coaches for not taking into account that they were playing a game in an unfriendly atmosphere.
They wasted plenty of time on previous plays attempting to make sure that they didn’t leave enough time on the clock for the opposing team after they kicked a field goal.
In hindsight, it would have been much wiser to not waste all that time and get themselves in the middle of the field first, then worry about running time off the clock or, since the field goal kicker had already made one field goal from the right hash mark, just bring him on and have him kick it from where they were.
Basically, don’t trust the ref’s to do what you think they are suppose to do. Don’t put the game in there hands another words.
Joel,
In the link above shows me he “did not” put his knee to the ground.
Have you another link of the game footage that is to the contrary?
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Joel,
In the link above shows me he “did not” put his knee to the ground.Have you another link of the game footage that is to the contrary?
Saw the replay numerous times on a large screen T.V.
There was no question what-so-ever by any of the ESPN guys as to whether or not his knee touched the ground.
All said it obviously did.
Also, the ref’s blew the play dead. If they didn’t think Stave touched the ground with his knee; Why did they blow the whistle to signal the play was over?
It’s a shame for the kids involved but the people I really put the blame on are the Wisconsin coaches. It’s up to them to make the proper calls. In this case, they put the end of the game in the hands of the officials when they could have kept that control themselves.
Lesson learned! (We hope)
Apparently he did and that video is the worst possible angle to see it.
I am convinced that 1 of 2 things should have happened.
1.) Stop the clock until you can get the guy off the ball and spot the ball
2.) Stop the clock and call the player for delay of game.
Otherwise in situations like this if you are on defense, why not knock the ball from the refs hands and kick it to the side line? Or how about bear hug the ref so he can’t spot it?
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Badgers should have scored more points. I am wondering if the referees were the same ones that called the Packers Seattle game last year. Don’t they have a guy upstairs to look at that kind of thing?
Apperently they didn’t have anybody up stairs as the Badgers almost won the game when they were rewarded with am extra 35 yards on the play where the Badger stepped out bounds. They still al
Ostrich won and would have had the qb not blundered.
In the end the correct team won.
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Badgers should have scored more points. I am wondering if the referees were the same ones that called the Packers Seattle game last year. Don’t they have a guy upstairs to look at that kind of thing?
Apperently they didn’t have anybody up stairs as the Badgers almost won the game when they were rewarded with am extra 35 yards on the play where the Badger stepped out bounds. They still
Almost won and would have had the qb not blundered.
In the end the correct team won.
And the funny thing is they can’t blame Bielema for another late game Badger coaching meltdown.
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And the funny thing is they can’t blame Bielema for another late game Badger coaching meltdown.
His wife cited karma on twitter.
Thanks Pug, I could not even imagine the knee from the other link.
Pac-12 Conference Commissioner Larry Scott has reprimanded and taken sanctions against the officials in Saturday night’s Wisconsin at Arizona State game, according to the conference website.
Exactly what does that mean? What are the sanctions and reprimands these referee’s will suffer from their lack of action?
Curious minds would like to know. Not that it’s going to change anything.
What? Our old kicker is coaching the Badgers now?
Personally, I think that defensive lineman new exactly what he was doing. He sat on the ball for 7 seconds. He literally sat there from 00:12-00:05.
Don’t you think he would have at least gotten up to celebrate a game winning fumble recovery?
If you listen to the referee’s explanation after the review he stated that the play will “stand” not that it was confirmed, meaning there was not sufficient video evidence to overturn the call.
Bottom line is this, the Badgers should have played better on both sides of the ball but they still should have had the opportunity to win the game, granted our kicker has been suspect but from close range you have to at least give him a 50/50 chance of making the kick in front of a hostile crowd. If that would have happened and he missed it oh well we had our chance to win it. I for one do not blame coach Andersen whatsoever for mishandling the situation. If you listen to his mon morn news conference he stated that they practice that exact same play with 15 seconds on the clock and they are able to clock it with 3 or so seconds every single time.
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If you listen to the referee’s explanation after the review he stated that the play will “stand” not that it was confirmed, meaning there was not sufficient video evidence to overturn the call.
Review?
What review are you referring to?
That right there is what pissed Wisconsin football people off the most. The fact that the booth never called for or did a review.
I was referring to the review that another member posted about, the Duckworth catch and run down the sideline alleging that the Badgers had someone up in the booth working a conspiracy to make the play stand. I just clarified that the ref said “stands” rather than confirmed. Also according to the NCAA rule book that final play is not reviewable, although I am unsure of exactly why. Regardless if the player surrenders they do not have to actually kneel according to the rulebook as well. Andersen said in his interview that play is ran in that fashion to allow for the officials to quickly and easily spot the football to allow for ample time for the spike to occur. The whole jumping on the football, however smart by the player should have been penalized but the refs once again were slow and confused.
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Also according to the NCAA rule book that final play is not reviewable, although I am unsure of exactly why.
Not true. At least according to CBS sports writer Jeremy Fowler.
Quote: officials had the ability to review the play in the booth and opted against it, leaving a hard-fought game with a dud of an ending.
Here’s a link to the article:
Refs botched late game call
Despite all of that, I do agree with what you said earlier.
The Badgers had plenty of opportunities to win the game.
What they didn’t have, was that last chance to kick a field goal. And assuming he would have made that kick, would be a mistake. Especially since he’s already missed an extra point this year.
Not to get into a pissing match of sources but the video I’ll attach from ESPN analyst Jason Seahorn (who played in the NFL for sometime) noted that the play wasn’t reviewable, that is what I am going off of. Also I only gave the kicker a 50/50 shot at making that field goal, I just wanted to see the opportunity.
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