firearms value

  • jimbo1943
    Lake Crystal, MN
    Posts: 42
    #1283115

    I am wondering if anyone here can tell me the value of some firearms I am selling at my auction. a Weatherby 12 ga superpose shotgun, a Weather Vanguard 22 250 and 243, a Winchester 30-30 pre 64. Thanks

    Randy Wieland
    Lebanon. WI
    Posts: 13475
    #1186099

    The 22-250 and 243 Vanguards with the synthetic stocks are selling new on sale for around $450. +$150 or so if in stainless. Dang good rifle for the money. Both are built with the Howa M1500 action which is an awesome starting point. I don’t see many used ones come up, so I would assume if they are in mint condition, they should hold good value.

    jimbo1943
    Lake Crystal, MN
    Posts: 42
    #1186100

    these both have wood stocks

    Randy Wieland
    Lebanon. WI
    Posts: 13475
    #1186103

    which model numbers do you have? that would help

    jimbo1943
    Lake Crystal, MN
    Posts: 42
    #1186104

    the 22-250 say Weatherby Vanguard VGS with a Leoupold Vari X III 3.5-10 scope. the 243 just say weatherby but it has a fancy wood stock the 250 has a plain wood stock with not much grain the 243 hAS a Redfield tracker scope

    Randy Wieland
    Lebanon. WI
    Posts: 13475
    #1186108

    Sold VGS 22-250 $429 + $25 shipping
    Gunsamerica 22-250 VGS

    Hard to be exact on the .243. Sounds like the Sporter model with the Monte Carlo stock. Those sell new for about $750 to $850.

    Everyones experiences with scope values are different. The Leoupold Vari X III 3.5-10×40 on Opticplanet is $479. new and the Redfield tracker scope has completed listings on ebay from $0.00 to 100 and many in the $60 range

    jimbo1943
    Lake Crystal, MN
    Posts: 42
    #1186110

    Thanks Randy much appreciated. I am selling 19 guns total at the auction on Aug 17th

    hosejr
    Posts: 68
    #1186111

    Where is the auction?

    jimbo1943
    Lake Crystal, MN
    Posts: 42
    #1186115

    Lake Crystal, Mn about 10 miles south west of Mankato on hwy 60

    jimbo1943
    Lake Crystal, MN
    Posts: 42
    #1186156

    some of the other guns are a 357 mag derringer. a marlin lever action 22, ruger 77 300 win mag, parker hale 30 06, older JC Higgins 12 ga pump, Remington express 12 ga new in box, old old Winchester 32-20 saddle gun lever action, Remington 22 semi auto, ruger 22 revolver with mag cyclinder

    Ralph Wiggum
    Maple Grove, MN
    Posts: 11764
    #1186181

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    some of the other guns are a 357 mag derringer.



    That would bark a little bit!

    TheFamousGrouse
    St. Paul, MN
    Posts: 11640
    #1186235

    More information would be needed to give an accurate estimate on any of the guns you mention. Condition is everything and amateur efforts to grade guns and apply values are always wildly inaccurate.

    The Weatherby shotgun you mention, just as an example, could be an Athena or an Orion, or other model. Unlike with Browning, the “superposed” was a tagname Weatherby attached to a variety of models and then there were grades within the models so a low grade could be worth 20% of what a high grade would be worth, just as a example.

    If you’re selling the guns at auction, they are worth what someone is willing to pay on the day. If you are planning to set reserves, you should have had all the guns professionally appraised.

    Just a word to the wise. Do not set reserves based on amateur opinions and if you plan to have reserves at all, you should disclose it in all advertisements for the auction. Surprising bidders with undisclosed reserves will be sure to get you plenty of very angry “feedback” the day of the auction. I have been at auctions where the seller’s relatives suddenly got the bright idea of impsoing spur-of-the-moment reserves and things got ugly.

    Keep in mind as well that “value” is a retail price. It is not always possible for a seller to realize that price because there are costs associated with every sale that someone needs to pay.

    Grouse

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #1186245

    If it’s an auction, don’t they go to the highest bidder?

    kooty
    Keymaster
    1 hour 15 mins to the Pond
    Posts: 18101
    #1186249

    Unless there is a reserve that isn’t met. One thing I’ve noticed over the last 18 months. Guns are selling for way more than their book value in my opinion. Often times more than retail. Which is fine if it’s something interesting, but when it’s Glock 19, 9mm. Why pay more than retail?

    I’ve been shopping for a large caliber rifle, don’t really need it, just want it for future elk hunts. Thinking I want a 300. I’ve stumbled across several standard, middle of road lines of Remington and Winchester. Each auction has sold for at least $100.00 over retail. Crazy I tell ya.

    TheFamousGrouse
    St. Paul, MN
    Posts: 11640
    #1186263

    Quote:


    If it’s an auction, don’t they go to the highest bidder?


    Not if there’s a reserve.

    But as I said, this should always be disclosed in the advertisements for auctions. I and many others do not attend auctions with reservers. Minimum starting bids are fine (again, if disclosed), but I hate winning and then being told reserve not met and I’m not playing that BS game anymore.

    Kooty is right, from a seller’s point of view, auctions are awesome. Asshat bidders bidding up common-as-dirt guns and paying massively over the odds. It’s terrific if you’re selling.

    At my grandparents estate auction, I acutally “supplemented” the auction with guns of my own. It was terrific! I don’ know what it is about 10/22 buyers, but holy cow are they stupid! I wish I’d have had 5 or 6 10/22s to throw in. As it stood I got $50 more than NIB cost for mine.

    I also sold some other rifles like my dad’s Savage .22-250 that he paid $385 in the 1980s. Nice rifle, but he hated the heavy barrel. It sold for over $600. It graded out as NRA VG, and book value on it was $400-$500. Another tidy profit.

    Buying? I don’t bother anymore for common guns. The internet has changed everything and I can get anything I want, anytime, for far less than it will go for at any auction. I do feel bad sometimes at auctions because I often see buyers thinking they know more than they do and overpaying because of it.

    Grouse

    suzuki
    Woodbury, Mn
    Posts: 18621
    #1186271

    I kind of want that old Winchester!

    jimbo1943
    Lake Crystal, MN
    Posts: 42
    #1186282

    contact me at 507 726 6905 if you want more info

    flatfish
    Rochester, MN
    Posts: 2105
    #1186287

    Quote:


    I am wondering if anyone here can tell me the value of some firearms I am selling at my auction. a Weatherby 12 ga superpose shotgun, a Weather Vanguard 22 250 and 243, a Winchester 30-30 pre 64. Thanks


    You live in Crystal??? Have you not thought of having them all appraised? Even if it was at Cabela’s, you’d kind of know where you stand…. Then auction if you want, or list them or privately sell them…

    jimbo1943
    Lake Crystal, MN
    Posts: 42
    #1186312

    I live in Lake Crystal, MN about 10 miles from Mankato on hwy 60 not Crystal which can be confusing

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