So when a guy wants to keep the total package price below 20k, but they know they will have 6k in accessories. It makes it mighty challenging to keep the package price below 20k.
Humminbird 1198c SI $2700
Humminbird 858c HD $850
80# Terrova with I-Link $1700
3 Bank charger $250
3 Batteries $330
Ram Mounts $200
Pretty much excludes a new entry level boat. Used seems to be the best choice.
You could save a lot of money on electronics. Nobody NEEDS those kinds of sonars.
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You could save a lot of money on electronics. Nobody NEEDS those kinds of sonars.
Those WILL be in my next boat. I know I don’t need them. But after fishing with SI and I-Link I want them in my future boats. All boats float. Not all boats see 100′ to both sides and can follow contours on a lake map.
I about fainted with I saw the price of a Lund Rebel and a Lund Fury. They are pretty proud of those things. The outboard prices don’t help.
Although I may go with a 788c HD just so I can triple duty it in my canoe and on the ice.
Yes, want and need are two different things.
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You could save a lot of money on electronics. Nobody NEEDS those kinds of sonars.
I totally agree. But that’s not what their marketing groups want you to think.
Wade, I went through your dilemma this year. I previously had some decent boats but with lower end electronics. I decided to buy good electronics this year to make me a better fisherman instead of having a head turning boat that doesn’t catch many fish.
I did the dual 998 si’s this year along with the iPilot Terrova 80 with Link, and new Lakemaster chips – but went with a well used boat to make the package work better financially. My thought is the boat is functional and does the job – I really need to catch up on the new technology. If, after a couple years I decide to trade up to a newer boat – I can always take the electronics with me as well as the new found lake information, way points, and much more knowledge to hopefully make me a better fisherman.
There’s no right or wrong strategy I guess but this was my decision and a couple months into it I’m glad I went this route.
Just a question as we are on electronics… do they make you a “better fisherman” or a “better informed fisherman” ? To me, if I have electronics and get outfished by a dude in a canoe, 
he would be the better fishermen to me 
(same could be said for the boats themselves) 
This would be subject to change on any given day 
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Just a question as we are on electronics… do they make you a “better fisherman” or a “better informed fisherman” ? To me, if I have electronics and get outfished by a dude in a canoe,
I would say one needs to be a better informed fisherman to become a better fisherman.
SI is a prime example. I have seen guys use the same bait on the same spot all day long with terrible success. Where if that same dude had SI, he could potentially see fish 100′ to the left or right and know to move over to them. Potentially.
I hear ya 
SI reminds me of the scripture….
Jesus to Thomas… “Is it because you’ve seen me that you have believed ? Blessed are those who have never seen me and yet have believed!” 
I agree, being more informed won’t hurt and it should help.
I’ve changed my whole approach to fishing in the past couple years. Gone are the big walleye trips to Canada where you get to know certain lakes, bays, etc. after several years of trips. I’m now pretty much a non-walleye guy and am trying to learn a bunch of new lakes, rivers around Minnesota. I struggled much of last year until I got to know certain waters. I bet it took me 4-5 times on some bodies of water to get to know it reasonably well and catch fish with some consistency. My hope with electronics this year is to learn a waterway in half that time with mapping software, side imaging, etc. Then mark the waypoints and return and build on what I know.
I think that is being a more informed fisherman…which should hopefully help me become a better fisherman. And waste less time flogging new and unfamiliar waters..
If you really want to torture yourself take that price of the boat (with electronics) and divide it by the # of fish caught. Price per fish. YIKES!
Do you NEED those electronics, of course not, but do you NEED a 3 BR house when a small apartment would do the same?
Yeah I learned a long time ago not to do that math. Moose hunting in B.C. and Stag Hunting in New Zealand has similarly bad math.
That’s what I did on my last boat. I bought a used boat (about 8 years old) that had practically no use on it, and put upgraded accessories on it.
I’d rather have SI, and Ipilot and good holders than spend 2-3 times as much on the boat/motor just to say it’s new. Lots of nice 5-10 year old rigs out there with good motors on them. I found mine with a 70 Johnson 4 stroke with only 32 hours on it, been an absolutely perfect motor.
You’re only spending $20k on a boat? Tell us another one! Next you’ll be saying you’re only buying a 16 footer!
Come on, this whole thread is a wind up. Everybody knows a 20 footer is the new 16 foter and nobody these days catches anything without spending at least 8k on the right electronics. 20k total? Yeah, total for a decent outboard maybe.
I ran into this old sunburned guy with a beard in the grocery store in Oakdale last week. He was pulling a 16 foot Polar mod-v with a 40 Suzuki. Said his name was The Wizz or The Fizz or something like that. Said he’d been out fishing on the river, blah, blah, lots of good fish that day. Probably carp was what he was catching.
I didn’t have the heart to tell the poor [censored] that he had no chance of catching anything except sunstroke with that little beater boat he was driving. As I’m sure everyone here knows.
Now stop this fooling around Wade. What are you REALLY getting and don’t give us any BS about how you’re NOT going to man up to the 300 HP on the back. Only wussies and PETA members are trying to get by anything less than a 225 nowdays.
Grouse
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You’re only spending $20k on a boat? Tell us another one!
Come on, this whole thread is a wind up. Everybody knows a 20 footer is the new 16 foter and nobody these days catches anything without spending at least 8k on the right electronics. 20k total? Yeah, total for a decent outboard maybe.
I ran into this old sunburned guy with a beard in the grocery store in Oakdale last week. He was pulling a 16 foot Polar mod-v with a 40 Suzuki. Said his name was The Wizz or The Fizz or something like that. Said he’d been out fishing on the river, blah, blah, lots of good fish that day. Probably carp was what he was catching.
I didn’t have the heart to tell the poor [censored] that he had no chance of catching anything except sunstroke with that little beater boat he was driving. As I’m sure everyone here knows.
Now stop this fooling around Wade. What are you REALLY getting and don’t give us any BS about how you’re NOT going to man up to the 300 HP on the back. Only wussies and PETA members are trying to get by anything less than a 225 nowdays.
Grouse
Now that was funny.
I bet that 300hp would really get that boat across a 63 acre lake in a hurry.
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You’re only spending $20k on a boat? Tell us another one!
Come on, this whole thread is a wind up. Everybody knows a 20 footer is the new 16 foter and nobody these days catches anything without spending at least 8k on the right electronics. 20k total? Yeah, total for a decent outboard maybe.
I ran into this old sunburned guy with a beard in the grocery store in Oakdale last week. He was pulling a 16 foot Polar mod-v with a 40 Suzuki. Said his name was The Wizz or The Fizz or something like that. Said he’d been out fishing on the river, blah, blah, lots of good fish that day. Probably carp was what he was catching.
I didn’t have the heart to tell the poor [censored] that he had no chance of catching anything except sunstroke with that little beater boat he was driving. As I’m sure everyone here knows.
Now stop this fooling around Wade. What are you REALLY getting and don’t give us any BS about how you’re NOT going to man up to the 300 HP on the back. Only wussies and PETA members are trying to get by anything less than a 225 nowdays.
Grouse
OK……..
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Now that was funny.
I bet that 300hp would really get that boat across a 63 acre lake in a hurry.
See? I knew you were just messing with us. I had to blow the whistle before any more guys replied thinking you were serious about only spending 6k on electronics. 
Thought of it still cracks me up.
Damn right the 300 will get you across that lake fast. Isn’t that the point? Don’t be that guy with the 225 who’s grinding his way across at walking speed of like 50 mph.
Every second you’re spending grinding across that lake at only 50 MPH is a second that you’re NOT spending using those electronics to find out if there’s anything there worth casting to once you get there.
Get a 300 HP and get yourself some fish, son. Big boat = Big Man. We all know that.
BTW, I’m writing this from my 24 footer. I just got a satellite dish installed so I’ve got a faster internet connection on the boat than I do at home. Yeeee ha. Bigger is the new big. With the new 300 I just got, I can send myself an email from the boat and get home before the email hits my in box. You girlie men driving little 17 foot 150 HP rigs try doing that once!
Grouse
Now that is some funny [censored] Grouse!!
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I about fainted with I saw the price of a Lund Rebel and a Lund Fury. They are pretty proud of those things. The outboard prices don’t help.
I have been looking at the 16′ tiller fury that they have on special right now with small package for $9000. A lot like my dads Rebel he got when I was a teenager about 15 years ago and the fury seemed pretty close to that and seemed cheap….. saw your post and called him up. $2800 brand new. 
How things change.
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I about fainted with I saw the price of a Lund Rebel and a Lund Fury. They are pretty proud of those things. The outboard prices don’t help.
I have been looking at the 16′ tiller fury that they have on special right now with small package for $9000. A lot like my dads Rebel he got when I was a teenager about 15 years ago and the fury seemed pretty close to that and seemed cheap….. saw your post and called him up. $2800 brand new.
How things change.
Oh no question. Dad paid $12,000 in 1992 for his new Lund Tyee II 1650 with a Yamaha 115hp 2 stroke and trailer.
The Lund Fury XL tiller with max HP rigged the way I want is a $19,000+ package.
We were talking about it and he laughed a bit BC he could probably sell right now for almost the same price he paid for it new. Now that’s resale value if I have ever seen it. Wonder if it will hold true for current new boat owners. 
Sadly if you hold on to it long enough you may be able to get what you paid for it, if it is a lund or a ranger.
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