.05 blood alchol (nationwide) NO DRINKS AWAY FROM

According to the NTSB,after analyzing crash data, you are 38% more likely to be in a crash at .05. You are 169% more likely to be in a crash at .08.

Sorry, but I don’t see the value in investing our politicians time in this national campaign. It’s not the people at .055 that are the habitual drunk drivers that endanger us. It is the repeat offenders that are grossly over the limit that have a complete disrespect for laws and others. Current laws don’t stop them…Do you really think lowering the limit is going to stop someone that is willing to drive with a 13% BA level?? Add this one to the gun feel good laws.

rights or priviledges, Big Gulps or Salt, R-12 refridgerant or clips which hold more than 10 rounds of ammo,

make so much stuff illegal … almost everyone becomes a criminal
AND THEN it’s SO much easier to exert more control over the citizenry

I am not proud of it, but I got an education in alcohol and impairment in 1998. Unless the laws of physics has changed and keeps changing, someone is full of shi7. Back then if you were .10 and over, you were impaired, reaction times were slowed… then it changed to .08, now it will be .05 ??? For those who know it all, are you not impaired at .03 ? Would you not be impaired after reading a sad story about a boy and a doll ? Not making light of true drunk drivers, but come on… did you know if a drunk driver and a sober driver are driving down a two lane road in opposite directions and the sober driver swerves into the lane of the drunk driver and is killed, the sober driver was killed by a drunk driver

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What a joke. Since it is just a suggestion to all 50 states, look for your nannies with Ds behind their name who control Mn legislature to try passing this next year.

This is akin to some of the gun laws that they tried passing on the federal level. It won’t do a damn thing. It won’t cut down drunk driving. It won’t save lives.

It probably will result in more DUIs for people being pulled over for traffic violations or who are in traffic accidents. And don’t be a dolt and assume an accident where someone involved is at .05 and automatically to blame.

The natural response to this is, so you want to lower it to .05. Ok, go back to all the traffic deaths involving alcohol and show me the % that were above .2, the % that were between .1-.2, .08-.1 and lastly .05-.08. Then explain to me what the purpose of going to .05 is with a straight face.

Now I haven’t heard of any politicians latching onto this yet, so lets not get too excited.

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Holy smokes Pug, your wife type that for you ? I couldn’t agree more

You know that studies have shown that distracted driving ( texting) and sleep deprived drivers are just as dangerous and mabe more so than drunk drivers. Why cant they make cell phones that are disabled while the car is in drive ????

Thats all it is too Randy, some politician(s) getting on board for votes. How much do you want to bet that a guy that stops in after work and has 2 or 3 beers in an hour and a halfs time is more able to drive (safely) then a person who never drinks and has a couple then gets on the interstate and does 70 mph. My money goes with the guy who has 3 beers. This is another over hyped drama that thier trying to kill an ant with a 10 pound rock.

Try going to work and driving in congested traffic with serious anxiety and depression with a sedative in your system, does that mean I’m not supposed to drive to work and I should take the bus, give me a break.

It dosen’t matter any at all wheather it was perscribed by a doctor or from drinking a few beers in a bar or where ever, it all comes down to who has the mental control to do what thier doing. I could go on and give dozens of scenerios where a persons overwhelmed and has to drive, does that mean they shouldn’t and are breaking the law? Ya some people can’t drive and shouldn’t with a beer or two in thier systems, but does that mean the people who have drank 2 too 3 beers 2 too 4 times a week are now dangerous and shouldn’t drive, give me a break.

ok my take is a little different on this. I will say I enjoy a beer out for dinner, or after ball and then driving home. You could take the level all the way down to .01%. Problem is DWI/DUI, there are people out there with 20+ DWI/DUI that still get behind the wheel without insurance or a lisence.

My step son lost his father at 3 months and the kid that hit him was going 70 in a construction zone and hit him from behind when he was stopped in the zone. and actually knocked his car into 3 others the kid hit it so hard. Kid had no clue where he was or anyting. Parents said it was his “first” time and be lienient, they can put rules and all the enforcement out there they wnat, some will follow the rules and some will not. There will never be a good system for this. 1 mistake is all it takes to change the lives of many people.

her is a link to the top MN DWI’er with 27 as of 2012.

top mn offender

just my opinion on this. there is a ton more i could go onto say about this, but then it just becomes a pi$$ing match of sorts. people all have there own opinions and thought on this and will not all see it the same way.

Broncs

Some people are impaired at .05, some are not impaired at .10 others you can barely tell if they have been drinking at .20.

Any number is a bad way of determining impairment.

Remember too guys, unless I am mistaken, 2 beers will get you a BUI that will be on your drivers license if they drop to 0.05.

A 200lb 30yo man drinking steadily (1 beer every 30m I think they said) will take 4 beers to get to .05. 1 every hour is up to 6. I don’t think many of you are getting to that level stopping off for a drink after work, unless you slam down a couple and head out the door. If you are doing that, then I’m not sure what you are trying to accomplish… maybe trying to make your old lady look nice when you get home?

For a 130lb woman, 30yo, 2 classes of wine within an hour is .05.

Of course these change depending on what food you eat, whether you drink water also, and many other factors. But for most of you I don’t think you have to worry about .05 unless you are going out drinking.

Actually no laws have been passed or introduced, this was a suggestion by the NTSB.

Slowly but surely the govt is reducing the risk in our lives otherwise known as freedom.

I had a beer about an hour before the ride home from cat fishing.

I was shocked by home much it slowed my reaction time. Might only have been milliseconds but very noticeable to me. That was over 8 years ago and haven’t had a drink in a boat while driving sense.

No idea what my BA content was, don’t really care.

But I do care when “the people”, our government intrude on our lives.

<Insert Jon Jordan’s quote here>

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Actually no laws have been passed or introduced, this was a suggestion by the NTSB.

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What’s it called when they send out an idea just to see the public reaction?

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According to the NTSB,after analyzing crash data, you are 38% more likely to be in a crash at .05. You are 169% more likely to be in a crash at .08.

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Can we get a link. Can we compare that number to say texting or driving while sleep deprived?

I can tell you that I have never been in an accident, that must mean I have never had a BACL of over .08%, because if I was, I would have been over 100% likely to get in an accident.

I don’t know why they think this is going to stop the drunk driving. I know some of you had family killed by drunk drivers and so on, But what did they blow? Were they barely over the limit? My guess is they were way over the limit. They said on the news last night it would take a woman 1 drink to be over the limit…A man would be 2. Really??? The entertainment industry ,bars, resteraunts, liquer stores, everybody in the industry would get hit by this! Whats going to happen? TAXES will get raised!Not a good idea IMHO. nOT THAT I DRINK ND DRIVE, But I couldn’t have a beer with my dad after work? Good one? Will it stop the ones who drink and drive? Absolutley not!

Since I’m a 200 lb guy, I guess I don’t have to WORRY about a .05 law

and Since I’m NOT growing marijuana, I don’t have to WORRY about the DEA agents sneaking around in my backyard garden (you know if you’re not doing anything wrong, no need to worry about your forth amendment rights)

and since I just hunt prairie dogs, I don’t have to WORRY about restrictions on clip size OR second amendment rights (after all, who can get enough ammo to even fill a high capacity clip these days?)

so thanks, I feel so much better about all this now

What many may be missing is the actual impact of this suggested law… Our govt is in attack mode and hell bent on destroying jobs. The impact to the restaurant/bar industry could be fatal.

Nobody wants drunk drivers on the road, and regardless of the states stance, I would still suggest that .08 is not drunk…let alone .05

Feel good legislation is digging us a bottomless hole and needs to stop NOW!!!

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What many may be missing is the actual impact of this suggested law… Our govt is in attack mode and hell bent on destroying jobs. The impact to the restaurant/bar industry could be fatal.

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That’s the same thing eveyone was saying when they outlawed smoking indoors.

This .05 will be law of the land soon. Then it will be 0.00 as it is in other countries.

-J.

And they were right. My wife was a bartender at the time, and her income dropped by over 50% after the smoking ban was passed.

Dont worry comrades. Soon we wont have to think for ourselves. The govt. will do the thinking for us. .08 didnt stop drunk drivers, surely .05 will right? Feel good legislation that will accomplish nothing in the end other than more revenue for the govt.

About midway through this article link . I don’t have a reference to texting or phone use while driving. NTSB reports aren’t easy to wade through casually.

“People with a blood-alcohol level of 0.05 percent are 38 percent more likely to be involved in a crash than those who have not been drinking, according to government statistics. People with a blood-alcohol level of 0.08 percent are 169 percent more likely.”

Here is a link to the NTSB Report.

I didn’t dig into any of the references that were posted in the report, which is where I suspect the exact percentages come from in some of the media summaries/articles.

Not if The Tavern League still has any clout in the legislature…

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What many may be missing is the actual impact of this suggested law… Our govt is in attack mode and hell bent on destroying jobs. The impact to the restaurant/bar industry could be fatal.

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alcohol ? My Cuban friend says they That’s the same thing eveyone was saying when they outlawed smoking indoors.

This .05 will be law of the land soon. Then it will be 0.00 as it is in other countries.

-J.

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WHAT COUNTRIES HAVE A .000 LAW ? mY FRIEND FROM CUBA SAYS THEY HAVE NO ALCOHOL DRIVING RESTRICTIONS AT ALL

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WHAT COUNTRIES HAVE A .000 LAW ? mY FRIEND FROM CUBA SAYS THEY HAVE NO ALCOHOL DRIVING RESTRICTIONS AT ALL

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drunk_driving_law_by_country

-J.

I have caused 3 accidents in my life and all of them were before I was 18 and I had no alcohol in my system. Statistically speaking based on my situation, we should change the driving age to 18. Hopefully this .05 discussion doesn’t pick up any steam.

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What many may be missing is the actual impact of this suggested law… Our govt is in attack mode and hell bent on destroying jobs. The impact to the restaurant/bar industry could be fatal.

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alcohol ? My Cuban friend says they That’s the same thing eveyone was saying when they outlawed smoking indoors.

This .05 will be law of the land soon. Then it will be 0.00 as it is in other countries.

-J.

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WHAT COUNTRIES HAVE A .000 LAW ? mY FRIEND FROM CUBA SAYS THEY HAVE NO ALCOHOL DRIVING RESTRICTIONS AT ALL

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Was he drunk when he said that?

Cuba: Zero – 0.01%[citation needed]

.05 – .08 is still more safe than a female behind the wheel of a full sized SUV

Interesting to see where exactly the threshold is for guys. I don’t remember this kind of outcry on this site when Minnesota passed .08 into law. But now at .05 this is Big Brother controlling our lives. Perhaps it is just the snowball effect of all the other liberties our government is slowly but surely encroaching on that has all you guys saying enough is enough?

The impaired driving laws serve two purposes, one is to make money for the State and Counties, the other is to make the public “feel” safe of the road. We are no safer on the roads with the limit at .05, then we were at .08 or .1. People are still going to get behind the wheel intoxicated regardless of what the law is.

The way I see it, the world is a dangerous place, there are no guarantees. So you can either get up every morning and go on with living assuming all the risk, or crawl under your bed and hide. Either way I can’t control what other people do, and frankly neither can our government.

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The way I see it, the world is a dangerous place, there are no guarantees. So you can either get up every morning and go on with living assuming all the risk, or crawl under your bed and hide. Either way I can’t control what other people do, and frankly neither can our government.

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