.05 blood alchol (nationwide) NO DRINKS AWAY FROM

What I said above, America, where did it GO?

Away from HOME!!! @$&!#&$=/

So does that mean the road is full of drunks at .06-.08 today who are fine to drive… until they pen this next criteria into law ? I would have thought some scientific thought would have went into the .08 limit ? Did they discover some new theory or have they changed beer enough, that a lower amount now impairs too much ? I am all for progress, but there comes a point where people will say enough…. wonder why they are trying to disarm law abiding citizens ??? Think no more…. revolution will be the only alternative left for some of us.

Good. Drinking and driving is unacceptable.

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What I said above, America, where did it GO?

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I dont believe it has been voting in yet

Yea drunk driving is unacceptable but stopping to have two beers after work would be unacceptable as well

This was posted on facebook by John A. Pasko.

I was walking around in a Big Bazar store shopping, when I saw a Cashier talking to a boy couldn’t have been more than 5 or 6 years old..

The Cashier said, ‘I’m sorry, but you don’t have enough money to buy this doll. Then the little boy turned to the cashier and asked: are you sure I don’t have enough money?”

The cashier counted his cash once again and replied: ”You know that you don’t have enough money to buy the doll, my dear.” The little boy was still holding the doll in his hand.

Finally, I walked toward him and I asked him who he wished to give this doll to. ‘It’s the doll that my sister loved most and wanted so much . I wanted to Gift her for her BIRTHDAY.

I have to give the doll to my mommy so that she can give it to my sister when she goes there.’ His eyes were so sad while saying this. ‘My Sister has gone to be with God.. Daddy says that Mommy is going to see God very soon too, so I thought that she could take the doll with her to give it to my sister…”

My heart nearly stopped. The little boy looked up at me and said: ‘I told daddy to tell mommy not to go yet. I need her to wait until I come back from the mall.’ Then he showed me a very nice photo of him where he was laughing. He then told me ‘I want mommy to take my picture with her so my sister won’t forget me.’ ‘I love my mommy and I wish she doesn’t have to leave me, but daddy says that she has to go to be with my little sister.’ Then he looked again at the doll with sad eyes, very quietly..

I quickly reached for my wallet and said to the boy. ‘Suppose we check again, just in case you do have enough money for the doll?”

‘OK’ he said, ‘I hope I do have enough.’ I added some of my money to his with out him seeing and we started to count it. There was enough for the doll and even some spare money.

The little boy said: ‘Thank you God for giving me enough money!’

Then he looked at me and added, ‘I asked last night before I went to sleep for God to make sure I had enough money to buy this doll, so that mommy could give It to my sister. He heard me!” ‘I also wanted to have enough money to buy a white rose for my mommy, but I didn’t dare to ask God for too much. But He gave me enough to buy the doll and a white rose. My mommy loves white roses.’

I finished my shopping in a totally different state from when I started. I couldn’t get the little boy out of my mind.

Then I remembered a local news paper article two days ago, which mentioned a drunk man in a truck, who hit a car occupied by a young woman and a little girl. The little girl died right away, and the mother was left in a critical state. The family had to decide whether to pull the plug on the life-sustaining machine, because the young woman would not be able to recover from the coma. Was this the family of the little boy?

Two days after this encounter with the little boy, I read in the news paper that the young woman had passed away.. I couldn’t stop myself as I bought a bunch of white roses and I went to the funeral home where the body of the young woman was exposed for people to see and make last wishes before her burial.

She was there, in her coffin, holding a beautiful white rose in her hand with the photo of the little boy and the doll placed over her chest. I left the place, teary-eyed, feeling that my life had been changed for ever…

The love that the little boy had for his mother and his sister is still, to this day, hard to imagine. And in a fraction of a second, a drunk driver had taken all this away from him.

Oh BOOO HOOO. I’ll bet the drunk blew way over .05 and I don’t recomend drinking and driving either. Big Brother can you wipe my %$&&*((##@@ also.

I have seen many very similar ‘versions’ of that same story. Often the story is accompanied by a request for me to send it to 10 people with promises of good luck if I do and promises of horrid outcomes if I don’t.

But then again, if it was posted in the Internet, it HAS to be true.

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Both of you completely missed the point. Even at .05 you are imparared. You can probably still drive, but you are not normal. That slight hesitation or wondering impaired mind might be all it takes to take away someones father, mother, sister, brother, grandma, grandpa, etc. I would imagine most everyone here is responsible enough to know when they have had enough and if they are okay to drive, but there will be someone somewhere blowing a .05 (under the legal limit) that just took away someone else’s family member.

Plain and simple it’s a money making venture. These county’s and states are greedy for people’s money at any cost.
Wonder how they’ll make up the tax money when all the bars and restaurants go belly up…..

My nephew was killed by some moron who thought he was OK to drive. IF YOU DRINK DONT DRIVE, One of youre family could be killed by YOU.

Hell, I could be impaired if I picked a bugger out of my nose. Are they gonna outlaw my bugger pickin finger????

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Both of you completely missed the point. Even at .05 you are imparared. You can probably still drive, but you are not normal. That slight hesitation or wondering impaired mind might be all it takes to take away someones father, mother, sister, brother, grandma, grandpa, etc. I would imagine most everyone here is responsible enough to know when they have had enough and if they are okay to drive, but there will be someone somewhere blowing a .05 (under the legal limit) that just took away someone else’s family member.

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This year is the 10-year anniversary of losing my sister to an alcohol-impaired driver. .05 is fine by me. I imagine most opposed to this idea would change their mind if they lost a loved one to an impaired driver. I used to be that person who would have a beer or two then drive but not anymore. Why not stop after work to have a non-alcoholic beer if you’re doing it because you like the taste of beer. If you’re not having a couple because you like the taste of beer then why?

Until they start testing for intelligence in some of these drivers I believe there are many “impaired” drivers out there without any drinks. How about those drivers who are just not aware of anything except their darn selves. .08 is good. The culture is already turning over and drinking and driving is becoming frowned upon in many circles and that is how society is suppose to work, self correct itself and not have it mandated by law.

I was thinking about this today and it was really bothering me. It seems like we are going to more and more arbitrary measures with an ultimate goal of zero tolerance (see MADD arguments).

I see this like this cigarette taxes. No politician is going to vote against it as it makes it look like they ‘support’ the other side. I think it is just sad that cooler heads can’t prevail.

There is a huge difference between having a couple beers after work with some pals and driving drunk.

Also that story above about the kid and the doll was just silly in relation to this topic.

I’ve lost family members that were killed by a drunk driver. I understand one drink can impair but .05 is ridiculous. Those that are causing the problems drinking and driving aren’t the ones who had two drinks over the course of an hour or two, it’s the one’s who are well over the legal limit.

As far as I’m concerned, .05 might as well be 0. With the craft beers they have now, 1 12oz beer will put most over .05, including myself.

This will happen, may not be for a decade or so, but it will happen.

The biggest issue I have is the stats that go with this claim. Drunk driving deaths have decreased by half over the past 20 years attributed to the inception of the .08 law. How is that determined? What is considered a drunk driver in this statistic? Over the limit, or any alcohol in the blood?

You’ll always have wasted drivers no matter what the limit is. Enforcement won’t determine how many drive drunk, culture shift will. Making people decide on their own that they shouldn’t drive is by far the most effective way to make a difference.

I’ve got a DUI myself and could care less what happens. I’d sure like to have a beer after work, after hockey, at dinner, etc… But I don’t need it. I don’t usually drink when I fish because I find fishing more enjoyable than drinking.

Ultimately, it really affects the enforcement officers most. They’ll have to deal with people that feel no effects of the alcohol by bringing them to jail and calling them criminals. They’d hate it. Biggest waste of time for them.

Huge revenue generator for the counties and state though. And that’s they way they think of it.

This is the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever seen. Someone is not impaired at .05 I’m sorry. Not even close. Those that lost love ones to sober drivers in a car accident, whats to blame there? But if someone has two beers, now its the alcohol to blame? Sorry accidents happen whether people are sober or at .05. Its the use of cell phones while driving that’s causing a problem, not people at .05 or even .08 for that matter

I really really question where this country is heading. We are in trouble. When is common sense going to apply to government and the rules regulations and laws that they pass. Our forefathers were smarter than this. When did it all change?

X2 for big g what wrong for having 2 or3 drinks after work in 95 degree weather all day

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Good. Drinking and driving is unacceptable.

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So is TYRANNY

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Why not stop after work to have a non-alcoholic beer if you’re doing it because you like the taste of beer. If you’re not having a couple because you like the taste of beer then why?

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Really ?? do you know what GOOD beer tastes like (not miller and bud products, REAL beer) … and … Have you ever tasted that n/a crap?
That’s like saying if you like the taste meat, stop off after work for healthy low-fat a dog thigh because Tbone steaks will give you clogged arteries

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Why not stop after work to have a non-alcoholic beer if you’re doing it because you like the taste of beer. If you’re not having a couple because you like the taste of beer then why?

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Really ?? do you know what GOOD beer tastes like (not miller and bud products, REAL beer) … and … Have you ever tasted that n/a crap?

That’s like saying if you like the taste meat, stop off after work for healthy low-fat a dog thigh because Tbone steaks will give you clogged arteries

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I think I needed to be more direct because you missed the point of that statement. Maybe choose a coke, then. Again, I have no problem with .05… go satisfy your taste buds at home if only a good beer will do.

Yes, using a cell phone while driving is like being at .08. I imagine texting while driving is even worse. Do you have any problem trying to discourage that person from texting or talking while driving who drifted over into your lane because they were using their phone? Not me. It sucks if it affects me because “I can handle my phone” but there are other options, ones that wont contribute to another person’s death if i screw up.

And if accidents happen anyway I still don’t see a need to add to impaired drivers on the road. I don’t follow that logic. If you can handle your alcohol good for you. But there are plenty who can’t and that is who the law is for.

Just for fun, we bought one of those breath alcohol analyzers a few years ago just to see what we felt like at different levels and I’d have to say it is a fascinating toy. We ask first “would you feel safe to drive?” then blow. Fortunately, I feel “wasted” at about 0.04 and wouldn’t drive (and don’t if I have a drink or two at dinner). Others feel totally normal at 0.2. I happen to be an MD and have seen many people walking, speaking coherently, and appear normal at 0.4. It is different for different people for sure. Another point is that I feel much more impaired after a night of call or a few missed hours of sleep than I feel at a level of 0.05.

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Driving is a privilege, not a right. After ten years of cleaning up after drunks on the freeways around the twin cities, I still don’t see why people think drinking and driving is a right.

Commercial drivers have to be under .04, why not hold the amatures to the same standard?

I was seeing a psychologist because something serious happened to my 7 year old daughter, some of the old timers on the site here know about it but its not worth repeating. At that time I asked for a seditive to keep me from going off the deep end and killing the guy or beating his [censored] into the ground. He had an honest discussion with me about giving me that sedative and said he could but the center he worked out of frowned on it. Frowning on a sedative? whats with that? hes a doctor. I asked why and these are his very words,,,Dan, don’t you know this is the age of puritinism? That statement blew me away. He gave me a perscription to keep me calm but a ferw months later quit the center he worked out of and started a new bussiness in another town. To make a long story short what are people supposed to do that need a mild sedative. A couple beers and a sedative both inpair to a small degree, but the important question is what are we becoming,,,a puritin society,,,think about it. I know some people can walk by a beer and never touch it and get drunk, thats how seceptable thier systems are, but for the people who aren’t is it fair to them.

This reminds me of a study the Rapid City paper did some years ago. They took a cross section of people—there was a sprint car driver, a house wife, an older gentlemen,a college student and a few others and had them drive an obstacle course sober. They recorded the times and then gave each person an alcoholic drink and 20 minutes later had them drive the same course recording their time and reaction. They kept doing this until each person was legally drunk. Looking at the data afterwards each person’s reaction time and speed slowed down as they got intoxicated. What they didn’t really point out was that the sprint car drivers score was better drunk than the others were sober. The point is that the 80 year old lady on the road probably has a worse reaction time sober than the 25 year old person is at .08 and isn’t it really about reaction time. As an old fart I sit back and scratch my head at the way our world is heading. In Minnesota soon two guy will be able to marry each other but mentioning God in school has serious consequences. The government feels a need to fix a problem that doesn’t exist with this .05 idea yet it refuses to deal with the real problems of illegal immigration and skyrocketing fuel prices. I guess I am just too old to laugh at the insanity we call normal anymore

What a joke. Since it is just a suggestion to all 50 states, look for your nannies with Ds behind their name who control Mn legislature to try passing this next year.

This is akin to some of the gun laws that they tried passing on the federal level. It won’t do a damn thing. It won’t cut down drunk driving. It won’t save lives.

It probably will result in more DUIs for people being pulled over for traffic violations or who are in traffic accidents. And don’t be a dolt and assume an accident where someone involved is at .05 and automatically to blame.

The natural response to this is, so you want to lower it to .05. Ok, go back to all the traffic deaths involving alcohol and show me the % that were above .2, the % that were between .1-.2, .08-.1 and lastly .05-.08. Then explain to me what the purpose of going to .05 is with a straight face.

Now I haven’t heard of any politicians latching onto this yet, so lets not get too excited.

FYI….Stopping after work to have ” 2 beers”………Will not put the average adult male over a .05 BAC……..Now if you slam them, or throw in a shot or too, you might be over the limit…………..I’m still undecided if this rule change would be good or bad.