Wife and i were thinking about going to the casino next weekend for her birthday and mothers day until i read the post about what the tribes are now doing up in northern wi. That was the last straw for me i told my wife we are done going to casinos and giving are money to them. I just burns me what they are doing and how we are all getting screwed because of it. So instead we are heading out in the cities for a comedy show!!! Just had to rant some……….
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Done with Casinos!
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May 4, 2013 at 1:21 pm #1168264
I took that for you to stop giving those people your money? They have been doing everything that they can with White Money for a long time. I have lived near the ML Casino and now Turtle Lake Casino for some time. Doesn’t matter what time of day it is. The lot is full of cars.
May 4, 2013 at 2:13 pm #1168273Unfortunately the same guys who whine and cry about netting on this site and others will be the first guys into the Casino parking lots at the first sign of rain. ANY DOLLAR given to the Casino or it’s businesses (resorts, banks, c-stores, gas stations,sub shop, printing company, St. Paul hotels) is used to fund the politicians in their pockets. Your dollars are being used against the Mille Lacs sportsman no matter how you look at things.
Oh, and you Treasure Island, Prior Lake guys……..your money funds the same politicians.
It’s bad enough that MILLIONS of your tax dollars still flow through the BIA in Washington to fund projects, please don’t add to the coffers by patronizing the Casinos.
May 4, 2013 at 2:29 pm #1168276It’s not just “up in northern WI”, it is right out your back door. Unless we can get some polititians to pull their head out of their , not giving the tribes your money is your only voice.
Ryan
Tom SawvellInactivePosts: 9559May 4, 2013 at 3:07 pm #1168280“Unfortunately the same guys who whine and cry about netting on this site and others will be the first guys into the Casino parking lots at the first sign of rain.”
I think you’ll find a lot of people taking offense to a statement like this. I’ll be first in line.
I don’t fish Mille Lacs enough to make a comment on the lake, but by the same token I am NOT in favor of feeding any money whatever into something that is pure discrimination especially when the brotherhood being descriminated against are fellow anglers.
Have I been to those places? Yep. Not any more. A few years back we signed up for mailings of up-coming shows/events at Hinkley at the state fair thinking we might like to take one in sometime. Shortly there after we started getting coupon promotions to visit the casino. These amounted to us handing in the coupon and receiving $10 of free play money. So on our way to the cabin we stopped, had a free coke, hit the jon, collected our ten bucks apiece and left with it. Did the same thing on the ride home. For two years we got those coupon treats and for two years we went out of our way to collect $60 apiece and never spent a penny on the wheels.
A lot of people holler about this netting spearing crap and they have every right to. I’d say the majority of these people are fed up to the top with this indian crapola and probably aren’t real willing to give them much. To lump every angler on Mille Lacs into the company of a few who might visit the casinos and leave money is wrong in my opinion.
May 4, 2013 at 3:23 pm #1168281You may not stop there but many, many do. You can’t believe the amount of trucks and boat trailers on the weekends in the lots. I maintain that if you talked to those same guys at the landings around the lake they would condemn the netting practise. But, yet they visit the Casinos and leave their money. My point is we (anglers) are speaking with forked tongues as the old saying goes.
You can’t be against the netting and still support the Casinos.
May 4, 2013 at 3:50 pm #1168284downtown state owned casino that would help reduce taxes and end the ?
May 4, 2013 at 3:59 pm #1168288Quote:
downtown state owned casino that would help reduce taxes and end the ?
Taxes have never gone down and never will. A state owned Casino will just open things up for even more mismanagement by the state. Politicians are educated somewhere along the line to lie, twist facts or in general to change things to suit them or their party. Look no further then the promises made to get the Lottery passed vs what we now have. Look no further then the queen B, Phyllis Kahn and her group attempting to wrestle control of the Lessard funds.
Bob I know what you are saying and to some degree I agree with you. However I have seen so much mismanagement by the state that I almost trust the tribes more.
May 4, 2013 at 4:30 pm #1168290I will keep those in mind I thought I was just gonna have to go to vagas from now on if I wanna gamble. ..
May 4, 2013 at 5:12 pm #1168293Quote:
I will keep those in mind I thought I was just gonna have to go to vagas from now on if I wanna gamble. ..
………if ya wanna gamble, send me $1,000 and gamble that I would pay you back.
May 4, 2013 at 5:36 pm #1168294Quote:
Unfortunately the same guys who whine and cry about netting on this site and others will be the first guys into the Casino parking lots at the first sign of rain. ANY DOLLAR given to the Casino or it’s businesses (resorts, banks, c-stores, gas stations,sub shop, printing company, St. Paul hotels) is used to fund the politicians in their pockets. Your dollars are being used against the Mille Lacs sportsman no matter how you look at things.
Oh, and you Treasure Island, Prior Lake guys……..your money funds the same politicians.
It’s bad enough that MILLIONS of your tax dollars still flow through the BIA in Washington to fund projects, please don’t add to the coffers by patronizing the Casinos.
… Speak for yourself
May 4, 2013 at 6:49 pm #1168305Quote:
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Unfortunately the same guys who whine and cry about netting on this site and others will be the first guys into the Casino parking lots at the first sign of rain. ANY DOLLAR given to the Casino or it’s businesses (resorts, banks, c-stores, gas stations,sub shop, printing company, St. Paul hotels) is used to fund the politicians in their pockets. Your dollars are being used against the Mille Lacs sportsman no matter how you look at things.
Oh, and you Treasure Island, Prior Lake guys……..your money funds the same politicians.
It’s bad enough that MILLIONS of your tax dollars still flow through the BIA in Washington to fund projects, please don’t add to the coffers by patronizing the Casinos.
… Speak for yourself
I’ll make you a offer. You catch me in a Casino and I’ll hand you a hundred dollar bill. BTW, very nice of you to offer your two cents.
May 4, 2013 at 8:14 pm #1168320Never been to any, and never will go to any, but thanks anyway. Not long ago a native american tribe purchased 2 major hotels in the cities, think they’re for conventions? Overnight stays? Lodging for sporting events? Think again….in only a matter of time, we’ll all hear about plans for casinos in them…location…location…location
May 4, 2013 at 8:28 pm #1168322I have never been in a casino that native americans own and never will be. Like Brian says too many sportsman complain about it and then spend their money in the casino’s. Don’t add up to me. The casino at Wis. Dells is full every weekend. Yet people complain about the economy. I can’t figure it out. That’s my 2 cents.
May 5, 2013 at 12:43 am #1168365You can count on me and my family from Illinois to boycott the casinos in wisconsin FOREVER. With no money they can eat their slot machines. If we all unite theyre done making money. 1 walleye daily bag limit sucks. Nelson lake near hayward for example. Check the walleye per acre 10 years ago, and look now, fished there last year NOT A WALLEYE.
May 5, 2013 at 2:34 am #1168396Quote:
You can count on me and my family from Illinois to boycott the casinos in wisconsin FOREVER. With no money they can eat their slot machines. If we all unite theyre done making money. 1 walleye daily bag limit sucks. Nelson lake near hayward for example. Check the walleye per acre 10 years ago, and look now, fished there last year NOT A WALLEYE.
for the record, we just did our first run on a just-speared lake checking size and distribution of walleyes. said lake has a slot in place prior to the one limit, and with that slot there without the one limit, walleye size found indicates an angler would only get to keep the one fish outside of the slot range. so either way youd only be taking home one, unless your an angler that doesnt abide by slot limits and such.
May 5, 2013 at 12:20 pm #1168416You got to hand it to those indians, no matter how you feel. They took their sovereign status and said, whats the one way we can rake in money no matter how much we tick off people.
I think they figured it out by studying the lotteries. The government does the same thing. They promise you riches if you give them money and you are lucky. Heck, Minnesota even said money from the lottery would go to the outdoors.
They prey on the desperate, the weak, the illogical and the people with gambling addictions. They play for the promise of financial well being, ironically by risking your financial well being.
Its a great gig. For those who waste a lot of money on these things, they usually don’t blame the casino or the lottery system. They blame themselves. And they keep coming back for more.
Ok, that is a bit of exaggeration and not all the people who do these things are in that dire of a position, however, everyone who has played the lottery or visited casinos at the very least is wasting money on odds that are ridiculously against them.
So to the point of the OP, we can boycott on principle, but if you are boycotting, that means you probably already contributed. The system is set up to the point where it doesn’t matter, there are enough gullible or even desperate people who will go in droves because they feel lucky, that they will be the one.
Sorry if this post is off point or makes no sense. Apparently I had a lot of coffee this morning.
tweakPosts: 128May 5, 2013 at 2:44 pm #1168444Quote:
You got to hand it to those indians, no matter how you feel. They took their sovereign status and said, whats the one way we can rake in money no matter how much we tick off people.
I think they figured it out by studying the lotteries. The government does the same thing. They promise you riches if you give them money and you are lucky. Heck, Minnesota even said money from the lottery would go to the outdoors.
They prey on the desperate, the weak, the illogical and the people with gambling addictions. They play for the promise of financial well being, ironically by risking your financial well being.
Its a great gig. For those who waste a lot of money on these things, they usually don’t blame the casino or the lottery system. They blame themselves. And they keep coming back for more.
Ok, that is a bit of exaggeration and not all the people who do these things are in that dire of a position, however, everyone who has played the lottery or visited casinos at the very least is wasting money on odds that are ridiculously against them.
So to the point of the OP, we can boycott on principle, but if you are boycotting, that means you probably already contributed. The system is set up to the point where it doesn’t matter, there are enough gullible or even desperate people who will go in droves because they feel lucky, that they will be the one.
Sorry if this post is off point or makes no sense. Apparently I had a lot of coffee this morning.
One of your best posts ever. Go Pug on coffee. I’ll buy you a cup of joe anytime.
May 5, 2013 at 3:32 pm #1168451Quote:
One of your best posts ever. Go Pug on coffee. I’ll buy you a cup of joe anytime.
Was that sarcasm? I am not used to praise.May 5, 2013 at 3:49 pm #1168457Pug, when are you going to tell these people that Michelle posts for you when you make sense?
nhammInactiveRobbinsdalePosts: 7348May 5, 2013 at 4:30 pm #1168466
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Ok, that is a bit of exaggeration and not all the people who do these things are in that dire of a position
That is about the only part that is true. I unfortunately know many people who go to casinos and they certainly not doing it to make a quick buck. Preying off us common folk is simply part of a “we are the victims” type of mentality that I loathe and is making this society rot from within. People go for entertainment. Plain and simple. Have you gone to a movie recently? Buy some popcorn and pop while you are there $50 easy. How about a baseball or football game, beer and hotdogs and a cool foam finger could run $100 easy. How about a night out on the town for some cocktails and appetizers there is another $75. Yes these numbers don’t make sense to some rural folks, but is a harsh reality to us within city limits. Most that go to casinos are just looking for a good time and the thrill of gambling and making more money on the money you would have just spent somewhere else anyways makes sense to some people. Yes there are those who become addicted and have issues but that goes with any activity including fishing and hunting. Too much of anything is usually bad and let’s not start playing the victim here to the Natives and there get rich schemes because it takes the blame off the common folk who frequent these places and who put the $$ in the Natives pockets just to screw the common fisherman and others.
PB2Posts: 329May 6, 2013 at 3:24 pm #1168721So if everybody stops going to Casino’s the netting will stop?
Talk about a long shot and bad odds.
IMO one has absolutley nothing to do with the other.
May 6, 2013 at 3:26 pm #1168722Quote:
So if everybody stops going to Casino’s the netting will stop?
Talk about a long shot and bad odds.
IMO one has absolutley nothing to do with the other.
No, but the tribes haveing millions (if not billions) of White Dollars sure emboldens them to do as they wish and thumb their nose at American Laws and compromise.
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