Minnesota could start drug testing welfare recipie

  • t-ellis
    Colorado Springs, CO
    Posts: 1316
    #1165100

    I actually liked the suggestion that MN lawmakers should also be tested for drugs and/or alcohol before getting pay and benefits. That could prove to be quit interesting.

    dfresh
    Fridley, MN
    Posts: 3053
    #1165112

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    I actually liked the suggestion that MN lawmakers should also be tested for drugs and/or alcohol before getting pay and benefits. That could prove to be quit interesting.


    If only it went to the national level. I would pay to know what drugs Bachmann is on..

    nhamm
    Inactive
    Robbinsdale
    Posts: 7348
    #1165116

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    Quote:


    I actually liked the suggestion that MN lawmakers should also be tested for drugs and/or alcohol before getting pay and benefits. That could prove to be quit interesting.


    If only it went to the national level. I would pay to know what drugs Bachmann is on..


    Unfortunately I believe that’s native thinking to her.

    suzuki
    Woodbury, Mn
    Posts: 18621
    #1165123

    No way this happens. Would love to see it, but no way.
    I heard this morning we are giving welfare recipients free phones in excess of $2B dollars in this country. I would like to see that end as well. Welfare should mean survival with incentive to do better for oneself. The abuses to that system are incredibly vast.

    Wade Boardman
    Grand Rapids, MN
    Posts: 4453
    #1165125

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    No way this happens. Would love to see it, but no way.
    I heard this morning we are giving welfare recipients free phones in excess of $2B dollars in this country. I would like to see that end as well. Welfare should mean survival with incentive to do better for oneself. The abuses to that system are incredibly vast.


    Florida was able to pull it off. One can only hope we can pull it off as well. However we are known as “The land of 10,000 taxes, but the welfare pays good.”

    suzuki
    Woodbury, Mn
    Posts: 18621
    #1165127

    I did not know that. Nice. There is hope. Thanks.

    Chuck Melcher
    SE Wisconsin, Racine County
    Posts: 1966
    #1165144

    Careful what you ask for… you start testing people living off social support, you know there will be a program attached to help cure these ills, as a program that simply cuts off benefits will never happen. Establishing an additional program to cure everyone of every drug and alcohol abuse is far more expensive than what we have now.

    Testing politicians… cool. Maybe hook them all up to lie detectors during debates…. ones that shock them each time they lie, about anything. Now we are getting somewhere.

    Tom P.
    Whitehall Wi.
    Posts: 3518
    #1165193

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    Testing politicians… cool. Maybe hook them all up to lie detectors during debates…. ones that shock them each time they lie, about anything. Now we are getting somewhere.


    Debates would need there own TV station for the time it would take to get thru one debate. If time was limited they could not get past the first answer.

    igotone
    Posts: 1746
    #1165229

    that should open up jobs

    and save Minn a ton of money

    lhprop1
    Eagan
    Posts: 1899
    #1165247

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    Testing politicians… cool. Maybe hook them all up to lie detectors during debates…. ones that shock them each time they lie, about anything. Now we are getting somewhere.


    You can’t do just electric shock, though. You have to have a multitude of options so their reaction will be different each time. Here are a few suggestions:

    Electric shock
    Pie in the face
    Weasel dropped in shorts
    Ye ole kick to the groin
    Wet Willie
    Paintball to the groin/gut/hiney
    Double ear clap

    I’m sure there are more ideas

    Paulski
    “Ever Wonder Why There Are No Democrats On Mount Rushmore ? "
    Posts: 1194
    #1165253

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    If only it went to the national level. I would pay to know what drugs Bachmann is on..


    And Phyllis Kahn locally for me.

    impalapower
    Madison, WI
    Posts: 939
    #1165256

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    I heard this morning we are giving welfare recipients free phones in excess of $2B dollars in this country. I would like to see that end as well.


    That program was started by Ronald Reagan. Someday all of us may be on that program.

    Tom P.
    Whitehall Wi.
    Posts: 3518
    #1165258

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    I heard this morning we are giving welfare recipients free phones in excess of $2B dollars in this country. I would like to see that end as well.


    That program was started by Ronald Reagan. Someday all of us may be on that program.


    requirments

    • Medicaid;
    •Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (Food Stamps or SNAP);
    •Supplemental Security Income (SSI);
    • Federal Public Housing Assistance (Section 8);
    •Low-Income Home Energy Assistance Program (LIHEAP);
    •Temporary Assistance to Needy Families (TANF);
    •National School Lunch Program’s Free Lunch Program;
    • Bureau of Indian Affairs General Assistance;
    •Tribally-Administered Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TTANF);
    •Food Distribution Program on Indian Reservations (FDPIR);
    •Head Start (if income eligibility criteria are met); or
    •State assistance programs (if applicable).

    Who Pays for the Lifeline Program?

    All telecommunications service providers and certain other providers of telecommunications must contribute to the federal USF based on a percentage of their end-user telecommunications revenues. These companies include wireline telephone companies, wireless telephone companies, and certain Voice over Internet Protocol (VoIP) providers.

    Some consumers may notice a “Universal Service” line item on their telephone bills. This line item appears when a company chooses to recover its USF contributions directly from its customers by billing them this charge. The FCC does not require this charge to be passed on to customers. Each company makes a business decision about whether and how to assess charges to recover its Universal Service costs.

    Yea right any one who thinks the company’s are eating the cost is smoking something

    Aaron
    Posts: 245
    #1165352

    It only gives people 200 minutes a month and only one per address. The phones are the cheapest things out there. Idea is good I have had clients on this program that it was their only phone that potential employers would contact. If they hadnt had that number do you thing they would have got a job. Who out there as employers would honestly look at giving someone a job who you would have to contact by mail? Pretty sure nobody would. Some random drug testing would be alright but what would people do about legal substances many people sell their food stamps, why? because you cant get drunk off a chicken, as one person so elegantly put it. How do you prevent all this from happening. Do we hire so many fraud investigators that the amount stays the same or just remember that some people on those programs really need it and do work their way off the system. It is a very big program that has plenty of flaws. People always find a way to cheat any system.

    Wade Boardman
    Grand Rapids, MN
    Posts: 4453
    #1165465

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    It only gives people 200 minutes a month and only one per address. The phones are the cheapest things out there. Idea is good I have had clients on this program that it was their only phone that potential employers would contact. If they hadnt had that number do you thing they would have got a job. Who out there as employers would honestly look at giving someone a job who you would have to contact by mail? Pretty sure nobody would. Some random drug testing would be alright but what would people do about legal substances many people sell their food stamps, why? because you cant get drunk off a chicken, as one person so elegantly put it. How do you prevent all this from happening. Do we hire so many fraud investigators that the amount stays the same or just remember that some people on those programs really need it and do work their way off the system. It is a very big program that has plenty of flaws. People always find a way to cheat any system.


    Eliminate it all. The WIC program is the best if you ask me. Specifically dictate what a person can get on the program and in what quantities. That is how all food assistance programs should work.

    Aaron
    Posts: 245
    #1165660

    And you would still have plenty of people selling their part for drugs or alcohol. Same as there is now.

    average-joe
    Hudson, WI
    Posts: 2376
    #1165938

    I would love to finally see the state of MN do something that finally makes sense

    BUT I’m sure the ACLU will get their hands in their and say that being able to smoke crack infringes on somones rights somehow

    farmerpet
    Hastings Mn
    Posts: 45
    #1166164

    I love the drug testing on Welfare and Politicians but also like the lie detector test.

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