Duck hunting shotgun?

  • cougareye
    Hudson, WI
    Posts: 4145
    #1169250

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    It’s pretty disappointing seeing the presumed guilty until proven innocent attitude.


    Are you referring to my post? If so, I’m not presuming anything. When I visit, they talk about it openly. These are people of all walks of life, from those barely scraping out a living to those making a good living.

    I was just tyring to point out the norm and that this poster above is operating on a set of norms we are not used to in MN/WI.

    We have game violations here for sure, but I don’t hear people speak about it “matter of factly” like I do in ND.

    ET

    kooty
    Keymaster
    1 hour 15 mins to the Pond
    Posts: 18101
    #1169251

    No Eric, I just replied to the last post in the thread.

    timmy
    Posts: 1960
    #1169252

    Waterfowl are federaly regulated. Fed regs prohibit party hunting – regardless of what state you may be in.

    T

    big_g
    Isle, MN
    Posts: 22392
    #1169256

    There is very little left to presumption, when the guy openly admits he filled others limits, all the while laughing at their inadequate shotguns

    kooty
    Keymaster
    1 hour 15 mins to the Pond
    Posts: 18101
    #1169257

    I don’t see where he states he shot other’s birds. I must not be reading what you guys are.

    Have any of you ever been in the blind with multiple shooters? How do you know who shot exactly what ducks? Sure a solo here and there maybe, but what happens when a few birds come in, 3 guys shooting, 2 birds down. Who shot them? How do you perfect hunters score this? I’m curious how much windex it takes to keep those glass houses clean.

    big_g
    Isle, MN
    Posts: 22392
    #1169260

    After about a half hour neither of their guns would fire anymore so I got to finish up our limit as my buddies got to lay there just calling and watching me haha it was awesome; made me really appreciate the Stoeger.

    Only one shooting (the others guns didn’t fire) and finished up “our” limit…. not “my” limit. My house is far from glass (you know this, you’ve been there), but I can read

    Wade Boardman
    Grand Rapids, MN
    Posts: 4453
    #1169261

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    I don’t see where he states he shot other’s birds. I must not be reading what you guys are.


    I am thinking that is exaclty what he wrote.

    “One rainy morning (rained from the time we set decoys until we packed up) laying in a flooded bean field (mud hole) I was hunting with 2 buddies who had a Benelli Nova and Mossberg pump. After about a half hour neither of their guns would fire anymore so I got to finish up our limit as my buddies got to lay there just calling and watching me haha it was awesome; made me really appreciate the Stoeger.”

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    Have any of you ever been in the blind with multiple shooters? How do you know who shot exactly what ducks? Sure a solo here and there maybe, but what happens when a few birds come in, 3 guys shooting, 2 birds down. Who shot them? How do you perfect hunters score this? I’m curious how much windex it takes to keep those glass houses clean.


    In those conditions a person needs to claim a bird and pile them up in their own pile. Assuming you all want to continue to shoot till you are done. A person needs to make sure they are making the piles evenly between shooters. However if one guy is shooting his 6 and his buddies 2 and 3 to complete thier limits while they are gunless. That is 100% illegal. If a CO was watching (which they do a lot) he would have been nailed.

    kooty
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    1 hour 15 mins to the Pond
    Posts: 18101
    #1169268

    Maybe it’s just me, but I’ve never been on a hunt where I referred to the take as “MY” limit. It’s always been “our” limit. We shot our limit of pheasants, we shot our limit of ducks. Maybe that’s similar to the difference why Minnesotans count a 4 point buck as an 8 point?

    Wade Boardman
    Grand Rapids, MN
    Posts: 4453
    #1169273

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    Maybe it’s just me, but I’ve never been on a hunt where I referred to the take as “MY” limit. It’s always been “our” limit. We shot our limit of pheasants, we shot our limit of ducks.


    At home that is fine. But in the field talking to a CO, you had better be able to indentify “your” limit. Otherwise tickets will ensue.

    kooty
    Keymaster
    1 hour 15 mins to the Pond
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    #1169274

    Of all the times I was checked out in SD, never once was it an issue. They verified # of species and over all numbers, but never once was it concern that the ducks were piled nicely by each shooter. I don’t duck in Mn or ND so maybe the CO’s are different. Learn something everyday on IDO.

    Wade Boardman
    Grand Rapids, MN
    Posts: 4453
    #1169275

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    Of all the times I was checked out in SD, never once was it an issue. They verified # of species and over all numbers, but never once was it concern that the ducks were piled nicely by each shooter. I don’t duck in Mn or ND so maybe the CO’s are different. Learn something everyday on IDO.


    I am sure it varies by CO (Federal vs. State). In NoDak we had a pile of ducks and the CO wanted all of us to identify who’s ducks belonged to whom.

    big_g
    Isle, MN
    Posts: 22392
    #1169276

    And I admit, I have never been on a hunt, where 2 guys guns wouldn’t shoot… so they laid in the rain & mud and watched me shoot my limit only, while being laughed at by me I have however been on many pheasant and grouse hunts, where a guy will let me know, he shot his limit and half of mine… and vice versa.

    Being able to count points and actually add them up, is an art only mastered by those born East of the Missouri.

    Wade Boardman
    Grand Rapids, MN
    Posts: 4453
    #1169278

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    Being able to count points and actually add them up, is an art only mastered by those born East of the Missouri.


    For years I would “get caught” when a MN hunted told me they shot a buck that went 185 or 200. I thought, “WOW, that is a massive buck”. Only to realize they were talking about weight instead of inches.

    I to prefer the 2X2, 4X4, etc method over “8 pointer”.

    big_g
    Isle, MN
    Posts: 22392
    #1169280

    It’s how one is brought up. Not having Elk in my neighborhood, it was total points. Sure, it was an 8 pointer, with 3 on one side and 5 on the other.

    “Did ya see da tirdy pointer”, sounds better than “did ya see da 13 x 17 ???” Wouldn’t you agree ? I won’t hold that against you Kooty….

    Wade Boardman
    Grand Rapids, MN
    Posts: 4453
    #1169283

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    “Did ya see da tirdy pointer”, sounds better than “did ya see da 13 x 17 ???” Wouldn’t you agree ? I won’t hold that against you Kooty….


    True I have heard 4×4, 3×3 etc. But I don’t think I have ever heard 13×17. EXCEPT in New Zealand. My Red Stag was an 9X8.

    Ralph Wiggum
    Maple Grove, MN
    Posts: 11764
    #1169284

    Wow, this post has really gotten off-track.

    kooty
    Keymaster
    1 hour 15 mins to the Pond
    Posts: 18101
    #1169285

    I shoot a 30 point buck, I’ll call it whatever the HECK I want.

    big_g
    Isle, MN
    Posts: 22392
    #1169296

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    Wow, this post has really gotten off-track.


    It was raised from the grave too.. it was from April Moral of the story, if your gonna tell a “story” make sure you do not incriminate yourself in the process

    BBKK
    IA
    Posts: 4033
    #1169328

    This is the most cut and dry admition of a criminal activity I have ever seen on this board.
    1. he said our limit, there is no our limit in waterfowl hunting. Its our limits, each person has a limit.
    2. he admitted to shooting others birds when their guns did not work.

    Anyone who cannot see that is completely blind. Party hunting MAY be legal for upland birds in certain states, I dont know. But waterfowl is federally regulated by the USFW and state enforced. It is illegal in all 52 states to party hunt waterfowl or any migratory game bird including doves. Each person has a daily bag limit that they must follow. If 6 or 7 drop out of a flock it is up to the hunters to claim a bird and add it to their daily bag and keep it separated from the rest. Someone may have technically shot more than 6 without knowing it, but what the poster here did is completely illegal. He intentionally shot more than his limit of birds because his buddies guns did not function. That is POACHING.

    mallard_militia
    Fulton County, Illinois
    Posts: 1108
    #1169357

    It’s hard to beat an SX2. Well maybe with an SX3.

    cougareye
    Hudson, WI
    Posts: 4145
    #1169457

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    This is the most cut and dry admition of a criminal activity I have ever seen on this board.


    This is the most cut and dry example of inventing your own word (admission) spelling.

    Right after GB’s use of the word strategery!!

    hunter1723
    Posts: 349
    #1170065

    I hope you re-read it again then!

    hunter1723
    Posts: 349
    #1170067

    As a good friend of a local CO officer. You better be able to present your kill and your waterfowl kills to him when you are in a group. If they are all laying in a pile and you say that we shot these, that is party hunting and depending upon how he is feeling you could end up with a ticket along with your buddies. If you all shot at a flock of ducks and got two, someone better claim them because if not you might end up in law’s way.

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