Looking to pick up some jigs for my new Pulse-R and Moxi plastics. I picked up a bag of the gold Precision Jigs but the hook is incredibly dull. I really like the Kalin jigs but want to compare hook size from the Precision as I’m sure they are optimized for their plastics. Does anyone know the size hook used in the 3/16, 1/4 , 5/16 and 3/8 size Precision jigs?
From my experience, every single gold jig is dull. It would be nice to see someone actually mask off the hook point for once.
1/8th & 3/16th= 1/0
1/4th & 5/16th= 2/0
3/8th & 1/2 = 3/0
Always found that those hook sharpen up pretty easy. Any of them get dull bouncing off the rocks in the river.
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From my experience, every single gold jig is dull. It would be nice to see someone actually mask off the hook point for once.
We plate ours with real gold and it’s my understanding it’s not possible to protect the hook during the plating process which is probably why “all” Gold plated jigs aren’t as sharp as the un-plated. Few swipes of a hook sharpener fixes that.
I would personally pay a little extra to get sharp hooks on these.
I I’d be very surprised if there isn’t a way to prevent that hook point from being plated. Might be worth looking into. I assume your plating is done off site?
If you can’t sharpen hooks you must either be lazy or don’t fish to much. Most all hooks could be sharper if you touch them up with a file. Fish any bait long enough and your going to be sharpening. Precision jigs are some of the best around.
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If you can’t sharpen hooks you must either be lazy or don’t fish to much. Most all hooks could be sharper if you touch them up with a file. Fish any bait long enough and your going to be sharpening. Precision jigs are some of the best around.
You’re making too general of an assumption here…
I have purchased a ton of CJ&S/BFishN tackle this year. All I am saying is I was very surprised to have such a dull hook, I always check my hook sharpness by scraping it on the top of my fingernail and this one slipped right off without grabbing at all. When I buy a brand new package of jigs I don’t expect to have to sharpen them myself. That said, I would definitely buy the non-painted version if I cold find them anywhere around me, no doubt those hooks will be much sharper.
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That said, I would definitely buy the non-painted version if I cold find them anywhere around me, no doubt those hooks will be much sharper.
Here you go bfishntackle unpainted jigs
If you want a great selection of powder paints for painting yourself – Powder Paints website They have about 1600-1800 standard colors and can make just about any custom color you think of.
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If you can’t sharpen hooks you must either be lazy or don’t fish to much. Most all hooks could be sharper if you touch them up with a file. Fish any bait long enough and your going to be sharpening. Precision jigs are some of the best around.
Thanks for the assumption. Why can’t I just buy a package of gold jigs that are sharp? Is that too much to ask?
How often have you had to tie a jig on in a hurry? Sure wouldn’t help if you had to sharpen it as well.
My jigs don’t last long enough to be resharpened. They’ll either be bitten off or snagged under a rock before I ever have to resharpen one.
I carry a file in my boat for one reason. Gold jigs.
You buy quality jigs they should be sharp out of package. Simple as that. Idk many people who buy the cheapest hooks for their live bait rigs BC they can just sharpen em themselves.
If I’m spending over $5 for 10 jig heads, they BETTER come sharp or I’m not buying from them again. With all the heads out there now and guys making them (like myself now), there is no room to put out a mediocre product and just claim you were the original. Doesnt work too well for vexilar anymore, and wont work too well here. Thank GOODNESS their regular hook jig heads have great hooks on them, its just the gold ones that are bad.
I have used the h20 precision many times, and still use them even though I pour pretty much the exact same thing. They are a great jig head, but the gold plated ones stink hook wise. Then again, I havent seen any gold plated hooks that are any good. They either rub off and turn silver after 1 fish or are dull as a 2×4.
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but the gold plated ones stink hook wise. Then again, I havent seen any gold plated hooks that are any good.
The hook used in all Precision jigs is the same gold plate, plain lead or orange. The only difference with the gold plated jigs with regards to the hook… is the gold plate. If you don’t like how sharp they are or aren’t don’t buy that color pattern. There is no way to avoid plating the hook in addition to the jig head body when plating with real gold.
James, I’m not buying it. I’ve been searching for the last half hour to better understand the plating process but haven’t found why electroplated parts can’t be masked. Actually, I haven’t found anything that says that they can’t.
To say there is no way doesn’t sit well with me. I’d understand if it wasn’t feasible due to cost.
Does anyone here know the electroplating process well enough to put my mind at ease?
I’m going to give some of our plating vendors a call tomorrow and find out.
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I’d understand if it wasn’t feasible due to cost.
We put a man on the moon. Anything can be done. To have someone “mask and then unmask” (I highly doubt any plating outfit is going to allow making tape in their tanks of acid bath but that’s besides the point) each jig before and after the plating process would drive the cost of each jig through the roof. And that’s why all gold plate jigs have gold plated hooks. It would actually be easier and make more sense to sharpen the hooks after the plating process before packaging than it would to try and isolate the hook point from the plating process but that again would add significant cost.
If there was an easy, cost effective way to do this every tackle company would be doing it.
I would say it is done by the liquid baths. Electro plating I think it is called? I know for a fact that you could only coat up to the hook point if you wanted to, I’ve seen them coat half a coin in gold on the history channel before. But to have it line up and coat each one with the precision it would take, I’d say way out of the budget and would make that jig head cost way more than anyone would want to pay.
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But to have it line up and coat each one with the precision it would take, I’d say way out of the budget and would make that jig head cost way more than anyone would want to pay.
Exactly. Gold plating with real gold is already incredibly expensive as compared to paint. Adding in any additional labor steps would make them unsaleable due to the cost increase.
Went and checked the jig boxes of mine and every gold jig hook couldn’t scratch a nail if I standed on it. Seems like an opening for a company with sharp hooks. Gonna go get my hook sharpener and watch out BFNT I’m taking over your market share. Figure I spend 8 hours a day sharpening hooks with current costs I’ll be a millionaire in about 137 years.
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Figure I spend 8 hours a day sharpening hooks with current costs I’ll be a millionaire in about 137 years.
You should put in an application with Bob for head hook sharpener before someone else snaps up the opening. 
I’m just challenging the way of thinking. I get the impression that its just business as usual and not a lot of thought goes into it.
Simply put, I’d still like to see a sharp gold jig out of the package.
Hopefully someone here in a position to try it will challenge the process.
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Looking to pick up some jigs for my new Pulse-R and Moxi plastics. I picked up a bag of the gold Precision Jigs but the hook is incredibly dull. I really like the Kalin jigs but want to compare hook size from the Precision as I’m sure they are optimized for their plastics. Does anyone know the size hook used in the 3/16, 1/4 , 5/16 and 3/8 size Precision jigs?
Quick update, I exchanged the Gold jigs for a box of White ones. The hooks are definitely sharper, still don’t grab the nail convincingly but are sharp enough. I also bought a box of VMC Darter Jigs and while they are sharper I noticed the hook isn’t as thick a gauge of metal. Joe’s Sports didn’t have any Kalin’s jigs small enough so I can’t compare them yet.
At the Sportshow it was interesting to see how many of the tackle companies are now putting out jigs with upgraded bait/plastic holders. Didn’t pick any up but the Northland and Gulp jigs looked interesting, still to spendy for me though.
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I’m just challenging the way of thinking. I get the impression that its just business as usual and not a lot of thought goes into it.
Simply put, I’d still like to see a sharp gold jig out of the package.
Hopefully someone here in a position to try it will challenge the process.
The gold hooks are chemically sharpened prior to plating try and get as sharp a product to you as possible. Gold plating goes on my aesthetics and for flash, but it also seals up the whole hook from the elements even though the plating tends to cover the sharp point. Re-sharpening will remove the plating and expose the hooks’ metal to atmospheric humidity, even inside the clam package. Hooks can rust if the base metal is exposed. And so you are aware, other plating and anodizing can cover the chemically sharpened hooks, not just gold. Any plating on hooks other than black chrome/nickel are left as is to protect the hooks and product assuring you that you get a clean, rust-free item in the package you buy.
The sharpest hooks out of the box are the black chrome/nickel hooks. The metals in these plates is sharpeneable without getting into the base metal. They are also very expensive and is why we see so few commercial products done using them.
This is one issue you either have to make a concession on and plan on having to give the jigs a lick or two on a stone or hone before you fling them in the water. Buy a sharpener and learn how to use it. After all, if you are allowing these jigs to go banging around on the bottom and in rocks, you’ll need to re-sharpen those hooks often anyway.
real GOLD jigs 
guess I will pass 
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real GOLD jigs
guess I will pass
Yup, plated with real gold. You can’t match that color with paint or glitter. Same price as painted. http://www.bfishntackle.com/h2o_prec_painted.html
CT, thanks for the input. I understand what you are saying. Do tackle companies typically send these out to be plated? Or is this something done in house?
I still want to challenge someone to try or see what it would actually cost to bury the hook point into a piece of rubber on the rack. I understand they need to be grounded as well. Couldn’t be too hard to ground them all together. Man, I’d get squashed at work if I gave in this easy.
I’d personally spend an extra 25c per jig for a sharp jig. I’ll buy the first 50 jigs if Bob Gillispie wants to give it a try with the 3/8 oz precision jig.
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