16-21 + 1>21 slot work for Smallies on Mille Lac?

  • Buzz
    Minneapolis MN
    Posts: 1814
    #1280835

    Would a 16-21 + 1>21 work for Smallies on Mille lac, six fish limit? Would you support it?

    josh a
    Posts: 588
    #1145395

    6 fish seems a little high, I can’t see that passing anytime soon. Maybe shoot for 3?

    josh a
    Posts: 588
    #1145211

    For the record, I would support the 6 fish limit, I just don’t see it going from 1 over 21″ to keeping 6

    wheels2
    Ham Lake,MN
    Posts: 60
    #1145398

    Does it really make a difference? Is there really that many people out there that will keep 6 Smallmouths anyway.

    Wade Boardman
    Grand Rapids, MN
    Posts: 4453
    #1145399

    Why would a person keep a Smallie? Just make them a one limit for those guys that insist on killing a fish for skin mount.

    josh a
    Posts: 588
    #1145401

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    Is there really that many people out there that will keep 6 Smallmouths anyway.


    The smallmouth fishing on Mille Lacs can be flat out easy and 6 smallmouth 16-21″ would be a fair amount of meat. There are certainly people that would go out there with as many kids as they could fit in a boat and keep piles of them. Not sure the exact number of people that would, but people would.

    bioguy
    Posts: 128
    #1145419

    I’ve eaten smallmouth once, and it was meh. The majority of those targeting sm on ml wouldn’t keep them if they could. A few people will and I say let them, they are voracious predators of both small fish and invertebrates. I think some form of management is needed.

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    Is there really that many people out there that will keep 6 Smallmouths anyway.


    The smallmouth fishing on Mille Lacs can be flat out easy and 6 smallmouth 16-21″ would be a fair amount of meat. There are certainly people that would go out there with as many kids as they could fit in a boat and keep piles of them. Not sure the exact number of people that would, but people would.


    josh a
    Posts: 588
    #1145421

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    they are voracious predators of both small fish and invertebrates. I think some form of management is needed.


    agreed

    jon_jordan
    St. Paul, Mn
    Posts: 10908
    #1145426

    I’d be in favor of removing the special reg for smallies on Mille Lacs and going to state regs. Mostly for area tourism and resort reasons. No special regs will bring in tourneys and out of state fishermen. I think the current bass regs scare off business. I also agree some fish need to be culled out of the system.

    -J.

    timmy
    Posts: 1960
    #1145438

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    Why would a person keep a Smallie? Just make them a one limit for those guys that insist on killing a fish for skin mount.


    Because there are a HECK of a lot of fishermen, both resident and non that only get out a very limited amount each year and will kill EVERY legal fish they can to bring home. IT happens a lot and good for them! I am amazed every year up on kab when I see people cleaning a couple small walleyes, a few hammer handle pike, a perch or two, and a few smallies of whatever size they caught. In talking with them, I have learned they are generally people that don’t get to go fishing a ton and they appreciate EVERY mouthful of fish they can bring home from their vacation. It makes me thankful to be able to live where I do and to be able to be picky enough to only eat walleyes whenever I choose. For those can’t aren’t so blessed, I am happy for them when they can bring a fish home.

    T

    farmerpet
    Hastings Mn
    Posts: 45
    #1145458

    With the way that lake is managed now it won’t take them long and they will have the rest of the species mismanaged just like they have with the Walleye.

    puddlepounder
    Cove Bay Mille Lacs lake MN
    Posts: 1814
    #1145473

    i would like to see the lake go back to state regs for the smallmouth. all those big smallies are part of the problem. mismanagement of the lake all the way around. as someone said, might bring in some bass tournaments, maybe even a BASS with all the big names.

    nhamm
    Inactive
    Robbinsdale
    Posts: 7348
    #1145475

    Change the slot and get an advertisement campaign in Iowa, problem solved. Those people keep everything.

    desperado
    Posts: 3010
    #1145479

    Smallies are already mis-managed on this lake.
    A return to the statewide reg would be a step in the right direction

    Denny O
    Central IOWA
    Posts: 5821
    #1145498

    Deleted at a mods request.

    They feel I’m missinfg the funny side of it.

    FryDog62
    Posts: 3696
    #1145541

    Shouldn’t be anything but “CPR” for smallmouth IMO. No need to eat smallies and if you catch one over 21 inches and want to mount it, get a carbon replica.

    jon_jordan
    St. Paul, Mn
    Posts: 10908
    #1145542

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    Why would a person keep a Smallie? Just make them a one limit for those guys that insist on killing a fish for skin mount.


    Because there are a HECK of a lot of fishermen, both resident and non that only get out a very limited amount each year and will kill EVERY legal fish they can to bring home. IT happens a lot and good for them! I am amazed every year up on kab when I see people cleaning a couple small walleyes, a few hammer handle pike, a perch or two, and a few smallies of whatever size they caught. In talking with them, I have learned they are generally people that don’t get to go fishing a ton and they appreciate EVERY mouthful of fish they can bring home from their vacation. It makes me thankful to be able to live where I do and to be able to be picky enough to only eat walleyes whenever I choose. For those can’t aren’t so blessed, I am happy for them when they can bring a fish home.

    T


    Agree! Good post. I’d also add that for kids of families like these, keeping a few fish increases the entire fishing experience.

    -J.

    stuart
    Mn.
    Posts: 3682
    #1145544

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    Change the slot and get an advertisement campaign in Iowa, problem solved. Those people keep everything.


    They also pump millions of dollors into our economy every year. Most of them are a hell of alot more “Mn.Nice” than most natives.
    Mille lacs is screwed up because of mis-management over the years.

    desperado
    Posts: 3010
    #1145547

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    Shouldn’t be anything but “CPR” for smallmouth IMO. No need to eat smallies and if you catch one over 21 inches and want to mount it, get a carbon replica.


    and if the lake is out of balance (smally vs wally population being too heavily weighted toward smallies) . . then what

    jeff_huberty
    Inactive
    Posts: 4941
    #1145574

    I don’t see any reason why not to eat them.

    In fact, I don’t see any reason why all spieces shouldn’t be reguaded as table fare, if anyone chooses to do so.

    desperado
    Posts: 3010
    #1145577

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    I don’t see any reason why not to eat them.

    In fact, I don’t see any reason why all spieces shouldn’t be reguaded as table fare, if anyone chooses to do so.


    yup; if pickled correctly, it’s almost impossible to taste the difference of smallie from musky

    super_do
    St Michael, MN
    Posts: 1089
    #1145581

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    Would a 16-21 + 1>21 work for Smallies on Mille lac, six fish limit? Would you support it?


    Nope!

    Buzz
    Minneapolis MN
    Posts: 1814
    #1145584

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    Would a 16-21 + 1>21 work for Smallies on Mille lac, six fish limit? Would you support it?


    Nope!


    Do, could you say a little more on this? You want to keep it C&R?

    FryDog62
    Posts: 3696
    #1145647

    I’m sure I’m in the minority here, but I don’t think the rise in the smallie population on Mille Lacs has been at the the expense of the walleyes…

    steve-fellegy
    Resides on the North Shores of Mille Lacs--guiding on Farm Island these days
    Posts: 1294
    #1145650

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    Shouldn’t be anything but “CPR” for smallmouth IMO. No need to eat smallies and if you catch one over 21 inches and want to mount it, get a carbon replica.


    For many years, the Mn. biologists preached, loudly, that anything done to increase the smallmouth population at Lake Mille Lacs would lead to disaster….Dennis Shupp included–who was one of the most respected walleye biologists/experts in the country. Even just 5-6 years ago, I met with the MN. DNR fisheries dept. head about building breakwaters in front of public accesses in a couple places around the lake. He said, loudly, NO WAY as that would lead to better smallmouth habitat and we surely do not want to improve the smallie population. So who’s right? The DNR speaks and acts with forked tongue?

    I say eliminate them–period!! I agree with Mr. Shupp!

    desperado
    Posts: 3010
    #1145661

    maybe we should encourage the practice of netting them and spearing them during their spawning time

    Ralph Wiggum
    Maple Grove, MN
    Posts: 11764
    #1145668

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    I don’t see any reason why not to eat them.

    In fact, I don’t see any reason why all spieces shouldn’t be reguaded as table fare, if anyone chooses to do so.


    I’m with you. If you chose not to eat them, fine, but is there really a need to ridicule those that do?

    I think asparagus is digusting, but I’m fine if you want to eat it!

    desperado
    Posts: 3010
    #1145669

    although it does make you a cruciferous vegetable killer

    walleyebuster5
    Central MN
    Posts: 3916
    #1145676

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    Why would a person keep a Smallie? Just make them a one limit for those guys that insist on killing a fish for skin mount.


    I got real issues with guys that look down on others for mounting the actual fish they caught!! So you never ever keep a fish to eat? and look the same at everyone that does?

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