FIRE TUBBY?? mn gophers basketball

I think tubbys lost his coaching touch time to go!

Yes, time to start over. Only good news is that I didn’t miss anything when I fell asleep at the start of the second half. Woke up and they were down by 20 points…..and now they are down by 30….HOLY CRAP!

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Hang in there gentlemen… Some good will come in some short years to come..

It takes a lot to get recruits to come to the North Country..

But I do agree.. it will take more wins

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It takes a lot to get recruits to come to the North Country..

But I do agree.. it will take more wins

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The issue is keeping the 3 incredible recruits from MN in MN… Tyus Jones, Rashad Vaughn, and Reid Travis.

Tubby needs to go, he has been known all the time he’s been here for not having any offensive plan what so ever. Their man offense and against zones is just horrific to watch. They play the best when they run, better known as not playing the offense.

One thing that Tubby can do though is recruit so maybe he will be able to get those boys here, if he can’t he needs to go.

Time for a change!!

Speaking of; look what Bo Ryan can do with a little talent. HMMMMMMM. Bo knows

Tubby is a big name coach who has underachieved in MN:

– Has never had a winning record in the Big 10.

– Never finished higher than 6th place in the Big 10.

– Zero NCAA tournament wins

– 44-60 record in Big 10 play

– Numerous players have transferred (Iverson, Joseph, White, Cobb, Carter)

– Legal problems have surrounded his players, recruits and staff (White, Mbakwe, Asst. coach Saul Smith)

It was amazing to me that the U offered him a 3 year extension last July even though he has underachieved. It would cost the U $2.5 Million to buy Tubby out. Rumor has it that Teague has the guts to do it.

Welcome to IDO Brad!

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Welcome to IDO Brad!

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X2. Good to see you on the fishing side!!

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We cant get rid of tubby until AFTER they commit. If any of them commit to minnesota, then we have to keep tubby until he leaves for the draft.

But, if we find out later next month for any given reason that Tyus and Vaughn would rather go to a more uptempo, offensive style of play somewhere where they can actually win games.. then tubby has got to go asap.

Its going to be a big buy out, and if we were to go for a big name coach we would have to dish out a looooot of money. I couldnt see that happening. As much as i HATE to say it, tubby has to stay for atleast 2 more years.

From 8th in the country to most likely not making the big tourney – SAD. Tubby’s team should play the NCAA tourney at the start of the year. His teams never seem to get better as the season goes on. To me that says good talent and poor coaching. He has to go or we will keep seeing year after year of the same.

Flip or Shaka!!!

first off i’m not defending tubby here but there is plenty of blame to go around.
last night the PLAYERS shot 29% from the field
the PLAYERS commited 24 turnovers
Mbakwa can’t make a basket when he’s standing right under the rim.
as far as recruiting, the gophies have NO chance of landing any of top recruits in the state, they have the worst facilities in the big 10, they don’t even have there own practic facility, until the U of M steps up nothing will change no matter who the coach is and what big time coach would even want to come here.

Pretty cut-n-dry…lots of coaches around the country doing a whole lot more with much less talent. It doesn’t take 6 years to turn a program around in the Big 10…Indiana for example? Almost appears he has lost the team after losing to Iowa and the debacle last night….

Wonder what Sid would do?

Anyone hear Tubby on the post game interview on 1500 last night? Wow, I was kinda surprised. Spencer Tollackson (who used to play for Tubby) asked coach if he thought the seniors should be stepping up and getting it done, almost running the team by now, leading by example. Tubby said yes, and basically threw all the seniors under the bus and (I’m paraphrasing) said they have failed. He also said he has failed as a coach. If players respect the seniors and coach they do what they say and that creates a winning program. He said its apparent that is not the case any more…

It almost sounded like a pre-resignation comment. Anyway else hear him say that?

2 1/2 million dollar buy out Tubby is cheap compared to keeping him. Whoever thought 6 years ago that we would have been better off keeping Munson?

Besides………….the U has plenty of dough. They figured a soft schedule for Kill was worth 800,000 so what would firing Tubby actually cost? Peanuts, give the next guy a million dollar deal per year for 5 years and move on.

Brian, do you think that firing Tubby at the end of this season will prevent the U from recruiting Tyus Jones and the other in-state blue chip recruits? Granted if they replace Tubby with Izzo or Coach K they’d still come. But if its a relatively unknown coach that comes in and has to build or re-build – would you go to Minnesota when other programs with a winning tradition want you to play for them?

Not saying they’d still come if Tubby is running a struggling program here… just wondering what affect a new coach would have on recruiting those that are near committing?

In all fairness I am a UW student right now, and my two cents are Tubby has made UM much more relevant, because he is such a good recruiter (the barn and facilities don’t really appeal that much to recruits though). If UM wants to fire him they HAVE to get a good recruiter, college basketball is the recruiting mans game right now. Coaching wise I believe Tubby is not elite by a long shot, then again I thought Bo Ryan was an elite coach until the game which we lost in the Barn last week. Tubby’s best recruits are seniors this year and they have talent no doubt just lack the discipline and steady hand of an X and O genius. Even at UK Tubby under achieved, but the point is if the UM decides to part with him which I don’t believe they will, they have to get a recruiter that is a better X and O guy than Tubby. Then upgrade facilities and the recruits will come. But before you kick him to the curb remember how much he has revitalized this program in his tenure. The boarder battle was a joke not long ago, now it is tooth and nail battle, in basketball anyway, football is another story.

The U of M will do no better with another coach IMO until they upgrade facilities (at least add a high-end dedicated basketball practice facility adjacent to the Barn). But better yet, just bulldoze the Barn and start over with both a new facility and practice palace. Without those you really can’t recruit effectively in this day and age.

Problem is that the state of Minnesota is tapped out on new sports facilities. No one wants to either raise taxes or tuition for yet another ball park, stadium, etc. And remember, this is an ultra-liberal state with a broader belief that some billionaire alumni ought to write a check to pay for it all.

Therefore, we are stuck with what we have and Tubby is as good as we will get. Ski-U-Mah…

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Brian, do you think that firing Tubby at the end of this season will prevent the U from recruiting Tyus Jones and the other in-state blue chip recruits? Granted if they replace Tubby with Izzo or Coach K they’d still come. But if its a relatively unknown coach that comes in and has to build or re-build – would you go to Minnesota when other programs with a winning tradition want you to play for them?

Not saying they’d still come if Tubby is running a struggling program here… just wondering what affect a new coach would have on recruiting those that are near committing?

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What makes you think either is coming here with or without Tubby?

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The U of M will do no better with another coach IMO until they upgrade facilities (at least add a high-end dedicated basketball practice facility adjacent to the Barn). But better yet, just bulldoze the Barn and start over with both a new facility and practice palace. Without those you really can’t recruit effectively in this day and age.

Problem is that the state of Minnesota is tapped out on new sports facilities. No one wants to either raise taxes or tuition for yet another ball park, stadium, etc. And remember, this is an ultra-liberal state with a broader belief that some billionaire alumni ought to write a check to pay for it all.

Therefore, we are stuck with what we have and Tubby is as good as we will get. Ski-U-Mah…

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Which team in the Big 10 plays in the largest metro market? Answer is Northwestern but Minnesota has the second largest metropolitan area to draw to. We have more pro sports, more large companies then any other school in the Big 10. If you can’t keep or draw black urban kids to the Twin Cities then you might as well get out of the game. Why is the U being out recruited by Iowa, Nebraska, Indiana, Illinois, Wisconsin, Michigan, Purdue, Michigan State?

Build Tubby all the buildings he wants, he still won’t get the kids. It’s his style or maybe his demeanor. I remember reading the reports from Kentucky when he left. Wasn’t hardly anybody sad to see him leave. May in fact thought he got out of town just ahead of a firing.

But, I’m not a basketball fan anyway, so I really could care less, but he has done nothing here for the money he is making.

I think Tubby has recruited some blue chips…but the fact he can’t win with them will make it harder to land more going forward. And I do think a better practice facility and arena does help recruit. I have only personally seen Indiana and Nebraska’s … and even the Cornhuskers have an unbelievable practice facility. I mean its a Taj Majal, not a Corn Palace.

Williams Arena is a dump and there is no high-end practice facility/lounge/spa for the players to work out and hang out in (like other Big10 schools have). Its things like that that gets these inner city (and outstate) blue chip recruits interested.

Along with a winning program…