Feinstein Goes For Broke With New Gun-Ban Bill

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Is your “freedom” to own any weapon of choice, more important than your freedom to safely move about the country and truely be free?

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Yes, of course it is. My version of truly free is apparently different than yours.

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How can you feel more free with a right to own a weapon as opposed to feeling secure to send your kids to school?

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My right to own and bear arms is indeed a right. Don’t confuse my rights with the privelige kids have to be educated. In other words kids do not have the right to be educated. They do however have the freedom to be educated. Don’t confuse the two.

-J.

Just so you all don’t think I’ve fallen off my rocker. Here is my take on what is about to happen.

Obama will not use any executive order. If you look at what Obama actually said >> “All options are on the table”. That’s all. VP Goofy is the one who suggested executive order. Obama is not a complete idiot. Biden is. Not to mention he is sworn to uphold the constitution. He could very well be impeached by the Senate for making an order like this. And he knows it!

The white house will propose among other things:

– Reactivate the assault weapons ban.

– Reactivate the ban on magazines over 10 rounds.

– Make background check mandatory on all gun purchases. Basically eliminating the gun show loophole and purchases made between to private individuals. (Think Craigslist purchases here.)

– Impose some sort of long waiting period on all gun purchases.

– A new tracking database to track all gun purchases from some point in the future forward. This would start picking up all private and store sales and stored forever. (Very Nazi Like IMO)

– Big tax increases on ammo with limits on the amount of ammo any one person can posses.

– Stiffer penalties and mandatory jail time for breaking these new laws.

None of these proposals specifically violate the second amendment. And allow us all to keep our guns. Just big brother getting more intrusive into our personal lives. (Again very Nazi like.) Hoever, none of these proposals will ever stop mass shooting in this country. And I personally doubt congress will go along with many of these proposals.

-J.

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Let me ask you this, and this is not just JJ,

Is your “freedom” to own any weapon of choice, more important than your freedom to safely move about the country and truely be free?

How can you feel more free with a right to own a weapon as opposed to feeling secure to send your kids to school?

To me, I’d be more inclined to feel like my kids, family, and neighbors aren’t going to get shot at a mall, movie, or school than have a right to own anything.

This is just incomprehensible to me.

ET

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This statement is unfortunately not only oozing in naivety, but totally idealistic. Sure we all would like to guarantee everyone’s safety, however dealing in realism, it as virtually impossible.
There are many ways to die other than being shot, such as falls, chocking, fires, weather, explosions and not the least and by far more prevalent than getting shot is traveling to and fro! Life has no guarantees!

Right on Eyejacker. One other thing on this topic that really chapps my a$$. I hear over and over >> “These are weapons of war. People don’t need this kind of firepower” or “These are not use for hunting, no need for people to own these guns” Blah, blah, blah….

Freaking news flash WE ARE AT WAR !!!!! The writers of the constitution specifically wrote the second amendment so citizens did not completely rely on the government for protection of invading armies. The other reason was so private citizens had the power to overthrow a tyrannical government or state. We as citizens should be able to arm ourselves to the same level as the Armed Forces. I would love to have a 155mm cannon in my back yard! But noooooo the left continually insists we should give up our weapons. They so quickly forget how we started this country. With guns at our sides. The terrorists in Afganistan have to be smiling. An un armed America will soon be overthrown.

Ok, rant over.

-J.

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Right on Eyejacker. One other thing on this topic that really chapps my a$$. I hear over and over >> “These are weapons of war. People don’t need this kind of firepower” or “These are not use for hunting, no need for people to own these guns” Blah, blah, blah….

Freaking news flash WE ARE AT WAR !!!!! The writers of the constitution specifically wrote the second amendment so citizens did not completely rely on the government for protection of invading armies. The other reason was so private citizens had the power to overthrow a tyrannical government or state. We as citizens should be able to arm ourselves to the same level as the Armed Forces. I would love to have a 155mm cannon in my back yard! But noooooo the left continually insists we should give up our weapons. They so quickly forget how we started this country. With guns at our sides. The terrorists in Afganistan have to be smiling. An un armed America will soon be overthrown.

Ok, rant over.

-J.

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Right on,Jon! You can have the cannon, I’ll take a drone!

I can run an 8″ self propelled howizter, just need a fire direction specialist. Funny how the technology has changed since the first gulf war started in 1990.

I would be the perfect owner of an M16. No innocents would ever have to fear me. I cant afford cannon ammo…..

You see what I mean ? A post turns into cannons, drones… etc. What about a nuke ? Who doesn’t think the framers of the Constitution wanted us to have one of them ??? I mean if the government has them why not us ? Again… so far right and left….

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You see what I mean ? A post turns into cannons, drones… etc. What about a nuke ? Who doesn’t think the framers of the Constitution wanted us to have one of them ??? I mean if the government has them why not us ? Again… so far right and left….

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You are missing the sarcasm in my typing. I thought it was pretty clear.

In it’s truest form, the 2nd amendment was created solely so the government couldn’t overpower the people with weapons. So, there really is no reason I can’t own a drone. Well, other than the costs, the network to run it, the costs to maintain it and a landing strip. But other than that, the 2nd amendment guarantees me the right to protect myself from tyranny.

Got nice 8-pointer this weekend with my drone.

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You see what I mean ? A post turns into cannons, drones… etc. What about a nuke ? Who doesn’t think the framers of the Constitution wanted us to have one of them ??? I mean if the government has them why not us ? Again… so far right and left….

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You are missing the sarcasm in my typing. I thought it was pretty clear.

In it’s truest form, the 2nd amendment was created solely so the government couldn’t overpower the people with weapons. So, there really is no reason I can’t own a drone. Well, other than the costs, the network to run it, the costs to maintain it and a landing strip. But other than that, the 2nd amendment guarantees me the right to protect myself from tyranny.

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How about a nuke ? There are people who think they need one… no shi7… shouldn’t they be allowed to have one ? If you can have a drone, a cannon, a SAW… why can’t they have a nuke ? There is no sarcasm here… they do exist… some walk among us, some join organizations that actually will lobby for them to have them

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2nd amendment guarantees me the right to protect myself from tyranny

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And…

bad guys
school shootings
movie theater shooting
Mcdonalds shootings
from invading nations
ect

This is the way we are. Tell me who has a better situation on this planet. Nobody.

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You see what I mean ? A post turns into cannons, drones… etc. What about a nuke ? Who doesn’t think the framers of the Constitution wanted us to have one of them ??? I mean if the government has them why not us ? Again… so far right and left….

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It is merely, in my case, taking literary license in the form of exaggeration and color, while trying to make my point! It, in reality, is pretty innocuous and not intended to offend!

I’ve been avoiding this string. I think Jon’s list is a comprehensive list of things that make sense to do give or take a few. Tyranical government indeed. If I was orded to roll my tank into your town you wouldn’t have a freaking prayer with any shoulder fired weapons. There has to be a better way to minimize these horrible murders in the public square with individual rights to hunt and self protection. Since O was elected the gun manufacturers have made money hand over fist by scaring us. I think they will continue to insight paranoia because scared folks is good business for them to the tune of 12 billion a year.

Although it makes sense I dont see any proof the mfg’s have created any of this panic. I see the govt and the media creating it but not the Mfg’s. Please show me an example if true.

I realize alot is in jest here… but it is not out there… take the guy that was on with that nutjob from brittain, he wants a SAW and a tank and a nuke… it is his american right. man did he look the buffoon….

They have done it via the NRA. Some days during the last election I received 5 or 6 of the same mailings telling me that O would take my guns.

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How about a nuke ? There are people who think they need one… no shi7… shouldn’t they be allowed to have one ? If you can have a drone, a cannon, a SAW… why can’t they have a nuke ? There is no sarcasm here… they do exist… some walk among us, some join organizations that actually will lobby for them to have them

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Don’t forget the military rocket launcher turned into the California buyback program last month.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2012/05/los-angeles-gun-buyback-yields-1673-firearms.html

in fairness, the LAW turned in out LA, sounds like it was a “trainer” used to train recruits, basically a fibreglass tube, with a fake switch on it sounds like someone got a giftcard for junk and of course, the media distorted it too

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I realize alot is in jest here… but it is not out there… take the guy that was on with that nutjob from brittain, he wants a SAW and a tank and a nuke… it is his american right. man did he look the buffoon….

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I can not possibly empathize with all that seem to be wandering little off the beaten path!

Lets start a fresh thread on Monday!!!

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Lets start a fresh thread on Monday!!!

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I know…. this one is exhausting me… Going for some crappies tomorrow….. wish me luck

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Lets start a fresh thread on Monday!!!

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Sounds like a plan. This one is becoming a load!

Good Luck G!

I love lamp!

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Let me ask you this, and this is not just JJ,

Is your “freedom” to own any weapon of choice, more important than your freedom to safely move about the country and truely be free?

How can you feel more free with a right to own a weapon as opposed to feeling secure to send your kids to school?

To me, I’d be more inclined to feel like my kids, family, and neighbors aren’t going to get shot at a mall, movie, or school than have a right to own anything.

This is just incomprehensible to me.

ET

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This kind of ‘rose colored glasses’ mindset reminds me of a news story that was aired yesterday about a kind hearted man who grew weary of a mouse that had developed an affinity for his bed, wanting to spare the mouse a sure death from the much dreaded AR (annihilate rodents) mouse trap, he decided to live trap the mouse, which he did. He then took the mouse to the mall, er, that is, the backyard to release and give it freedom. After scampering a short distance, the mouse was attacked by a hawk, stabbed to death and then, to the good Samaritan’s horror, eaten. Morale of the story: The best laid plans of mouse and man…….

Who’d a ever thought it was going to be THIS easy

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This kind of ‘rose colored glasses’ mindset reminds me of a news story that was aired yesterday about a kind hearted man who gre

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If moving freely about the country or sending our kids to school without fear is rose colored glasses, then we are in trouble.

Go ahead and hide behind the 2nd amendment, it is this type of mindset that will keep the Romney supporters on the outside for years to come.

As for me, I believe in the US. I believe we can overcome this violence and I believe we can do it without losing any of our liberties.

ET

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This kind of ‘rose colored glasses’ mindset reminds me of a news story that was aired yesterday about a kind hearted man who gre

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If moving freely about the country or sending our kids to school without fear is rose colored glasses, then we are in trouble.

Go ahead and hide behind the 2nd amendment, it is this type of mindset that will keep the Romney supporters on the outside for years to come.

As for me, I believe in the US. I believe we can overcome this violence and I believe we can do it without losing any of our liberties.

ET

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This entire passage is wrought with inherent contradictions.
Your hiding behind the second amendment comment strongly implies that you are anti second amendment, which is a right to bear arms, granted by the Constitution. This is a liberty of the highest order. To be anti second amendment, also has broader implications of being anti constitution.

Wanting a world free of violence is what most people want. Believing this attainable is pure idealism, and many people recognize that because they live in the world of reality! To further develop the contradiction, I would ask what kind of society condones killing their unborn children by the millions under the guise of ‘Women‘s Health‘, while grossly exaggerating the gun threat to our school children?
I believe removing rights is exactly what is in play here. The goal, rather than saving the most children’s lives appears to focus on gun control under the guise of stopping something that rarely happens and when it occasionally does the anti gun folks, in lock step, feign horror. This is pure Alinsky! Otherwise the concentration of effort would be on areas the greater potential reward such, such as abortion, auto fatalities and medical error deaths. Annual child school shooting deaths are minuscule in comparison to any these other causes. The contradiction seems to be if the cause of such mortality is deemed a necessary consequence for the sake of convenience, by certain elements of society, child mortality be damned!

One more thing, if you think Romney lost the election because of his support for the second amendment, I would ask you how you manage breath with your head buried so far in the sand?