Wrong Guy to Car Jack

  • suzuki
    Woodbury, Mn
    Posts: 18756
    #1120450

    Too bad they dont all work out this way.

    Ralph Wiggum
    Maple Grove, MN
    Posts: 11764
    #1120455

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    Too bad they dont all work out this way.



    No kidding.

    jon_jordan
    St. Paul, Mn
    Posts: 10908
    #1120468

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    Too bad they dont all work out this way.


    Agree. If he were not a cop, he would probably be in jail. Last time I checked you can’t shoot criminals for stealing your car.

    -J.

    Ralph Wiggum
    Maple Grove, MN
    Posts: 11764
    #1120472

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    Last time I checked you can’t shoot criminals for stealing your car.


    I assume that since they used the term “carjacked”, there was some form of threat to the victim.

    jon_jordan
    St. Paul, Mn
    Posts: 10908
    #1120475

    I’m just reminding everyone who carries, you still have duty to retreat. Those of us who carry should be treated the same as off duty cops. We both are required to abide by the same laws. If I shoot a car jacker with no duty of retreat, I go to jail.

    I’ll give you this. The story did not mention if the cop was arrested. I assumed not.

    -J.

    Chuck Melcher
    SE Wisconsin, Racine County
    Posts: 1966
    #1120481

    The guy isn’t going to come and say please, it will be with a threat of bodily harm, and in my opinion, a robber like this now days, you can’t assume they will just leave you unharmed if you fully comply. If you can protect yourself with deadly force, I can’t see why it wouldn’t be fully justified. While turning and running may be the right move in the mind of some – I personally wouldn’t want to get shot in the back either. My home address and such is in that vehicle…. and home keys on my keychain…. no I’m not going to be just ok handing it over and hoping for the best if a better option exist.

    AllenW
    Mpls, MN
    Posts: 2895
    #1120483

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    I’m just reminding everyone who carries, you still have duty to retreat. Those of us who carry should be treated the same as off duty cops. We both are required to abide by the same laws. If I shoot a car jacker with no duty of retreat, I go to jail.

    I’ll give you this. The story did not mention if the cop was arrested. I assumed not.

    -J.


    Ya, especially as all car jackers ask so politely for your car.

    Al

    jon_jordan
    St. Paul, Mn
    Posts: 10908
    #1120484

    I completely agree. If it were not for our spinless Govenor, this would be completely legal for law abiding citizins – and cops! To bad he vetoed the stand your ground bill approved by the legislature.

    -J.

    wes_bergemann
    Crystal, MN
    Posts: 458
    #1120487

    Whatever happened to the castle doctrine that Cornish had been advocating for years and the House approved last year? Wouldn’t that have included your car as a place to retreat?

    wes_bergemann
    Crystal, MN
    Posts: 458
    #1120490

    JJ – that answers my question.

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59998
    #1120492

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    While turning and running may be the right move in the mind of some


    It’s not in my right mind, but it is the law.

    All worldly possessions can be replaced. All of them (at some cost)

    Lives can not.

    With that being said, I wouldn’t suggest that I be put to the test. I might change my mind.

    AllenW
    Mpls, MN
    Posts: 2895
    #1120502

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    While turning and running may be the right move in the mind of some


    It’s not in my right mind, but it is the law.

    All worldly possessions can be replaced. All of them (at some cost)

    Lives can not.

    With that being said, I wouldn’t suggest that I be put to the test. I might change my mind.


    Ya, maybe in your neighborhood they just rob ya, in mine they probably will add a little physical pain to the mix.

    I did find this,

    A duty to retreat does not attach to defense of dwelling claims. So long as a person claiming
    defense of dwelling meets all of the criteria for making his or her claim – that the killing was
    done in the belief that it was necessary to prevent the commission of a felony in the dwelling,
    that the person’s judgment as to the gravity of the situation was reasonable under the circumstances,

    That’s part of it, also found that at least 4 times that hasn’t worked here and the person evidently should have retreated.
    Clear as mud huh?

    Thank you gov goofy for all you’ve done, I feel so safe now.

    Al

    average-joe
    Hudson, WI
    Posts: 2376
    #1120521

    This should go under the Dumb criminal file

    Doug Bonwell
    Cedar Falls IA
    Posts: 887
    #1120549

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    With that being said, I wouldn’t suggest that I be put to the test. I might change my mind.


    Who would want that 1978 pinto that smells like catfish bait. I think your safe BK. Just saying

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59998
    #1120581

    It’s very sought after in the circles I run in…right Dean?

    ggoody
    Mpls MN
    Posts: 2603
    #1120883

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    I can’t see why it wouldn’t be fully justified.


    Of course it would be 100 percent justified…for anybody.

    How in the world could a police officer be Car-Jacked in the 1st place is what I want to know…

    deertracker
    Posts: 9261
    #1120884

    He was off duty. When not working we look like normal people…
    DT

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59998
    #1120891

    That’s BS DT and you know it. Otherwise you would have an avatar.

    big_g
    Isle, MN
    Posts: 22598
    #1120920

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    DT


    Who is impersonating who ???

    Grouse_Dog
    The Shores of Lake Harriet
    Posts: 2043
    #1120957

    You attempt to steal the minivan – with Daddy driving ( and kids in the car seats ) – you don’t have to worry about driving away. You will be laying next to the pump – useless. I may be “nicked up” – bad guy will be “unresponsive”

    I will take my chances in the court of public opinion.

    But then again – who would want a minivan with my kids in it….

    Dog

    chris-tuckner
    Hastings/Isle MN
    Posts: 12318
    #1121154

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    Too bad they dont all work out this way.


    Agree. If he were not a cop, he would probably be in jail. Last time I checked you can’t shoot criminals for stealing your car.

    -J.


    It would be if he attempted to run me over! And I GUARANTEE you anyone jacking my car was trying to run me over.

    prieser
    Byron, MN
    Posts: 2274
    #1121330

    Did it say it was the cops gun or the car jackers gun.

    smithkeith
    Waterloo, Iowa
    Posts: 889
    #1121374

    As long as you are in fear of your life, you have the right to defend yourself. “Yes officer…….I was scared to death and was sure he was trying to kill me.”

    deertracker
    Posts: 9261
    #1121385

    Yes the magical words, “I was scared”.
    DT

    smithkeith
    Waterloo, Iowa
    Posts: 889
    #1121498

    A TRUE STORY FROM… “THE HOUSTON HERALD” HOUSTON , TEXAS

    Last Thursday night around midnight, a woman from Houston , Texas was…arrested, jailed, and charged with manslaughter for shooting a man 6 times in the back as he was running away with her purse.

    The following Monday morning, the woman was called in front of the Arraignment Judge, sworn-in, and asked to explain her actions.
    The woman replied, “I was standing at the corner bus stop for about 15 minutes, waiting for the bus to take me home after work. I am a waitress at a local cafe.
    I was there alone, so I had my right hand on my pistol in my purse hanging on my left shoulder. All of a sudden I was spun around hard to my left. As I caught my balance, I saw a man running away with my purse. I looked down at my right hand and saw that my fingers were wrapped tightly around my pistol.
    The next thing I remember is saying out loud, “No Way Punk! You’re not stealing my pay check and tips.” I raised my right hand, pointed my pistol at the man running away from me with my purse, and started squeezing the trigger of my pistol.
    When asked by the arraignment judge, “Why did you shoot the man 6 times?
    The woman replied under oath, “Because, when I pulled the trigger the 7th time, it only went click.”
    The woman was acquitted of all charges. She was back at work the next day!
    That’s Gun Control, Texas Style

    big_g
    Isle, MN
    Posts: 22598
    #1121500

    sounds like a nice story.. but 6 bullets and he is still upright and running away ? not…

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