BreakIns Shot: Well?

  • t-ellis
    Colorado Springs, CO
    Posts: 1316
    November 28, 2012 at 8:29 pm #1115752

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    So the situation is:

    I am in my home – I hear glass breaking and I hear voices, here they come into the house.

    I have a weapon (.45, 9MM and a Stoeger coach gun ) one in my hands, ther others strategically placed in my home, between me and my family – my kids and wife are safe….the intruders are definatley coming in….It is clearly more than one person coming into my home!!!!! Holy S !!!!!

    I live in S Minneapolis. I would not hesitate to put the perps down. It would not matter if they were black, white, man or woman, 18 or 80. They would not leave my house alive.

    I would call the lawyer first, I would put the bodies on a tarp (I would not want to deal the mess either) and I would then call the police wiht my lawyer.

    I can assure you – I would not lose a bit of sleep over my actions. The newspapers would report – I would not feel bad. I would be rattled – yes – but I would take great comfort in knowing that my daughter and wife do not need to go thru any therapy for being raped and I would not want to kill myself for failing my family.

    My wife and kids would still be safe. No reading about death, rape, kidnapping, burgers on the grill (yummy). Just a story about a crazy white guy that stood up for his family and property.

    Seems pretty clear – when they come in. A guy should get focused. Nothing clears the mind like downside risk. I would not apologize for my actions.

    Dog

    Just curious Dog… would you feel different if your daughter, when she’s older, makes a teen mistake and was the girl involved in breaking into this guys house? I’m not condoning their behavior but kids make dumb decisions, well except some of these angels on IDO apparently.

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    November 28, 2012 at 8:29 pm #1115753

    Umm I didn’t mean it that way.

    lhprop1
    Eagan
    Posts: 1899
    November 28, 2012 at 8:33 pm #1115754

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    Finally! This thread is shot.

    Mission accomplished.

    jeff_huberty
    Inactive
    Posts: 4941
    November 28, 2012 at 8:34 pm #1115756

    Wait just a minute… did somone say union

    I who you are…. AND
    I know who you Ar’nt(oops; that’s Pirate)

    I always get the secrect hand shakes mixed up

    lhprop1
    Eagan
    Posts: 1899
    November 28, 2012 at 8:54 pm #1115759

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    Wait just a minute… did somone say union

    I who you are…. AND
    I know who you Ar’nt(oops; that’s Pirate)

    I always get the secrect hand shakes mixed up

    My pappy always used to say to me, “Boy, never shake hands with a pirate. You’ll end up with a hook in yer hand.”

    Pa was a wise man.

    stuwest
    Elmwood, WI
    Posts: 2254
    November 28, 2012 at 9:23 pm #1115771

    “Civil Union”???

    I think that’s one with a Pre-Nup…

    lhprop1
    Eagan
    Posts: 1899
    November 28, 2012 at 9:55 pm #1115779

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    “Civil Union”???

    I think that’s one with a Pre-Nup…

    And lube. Lots of lube.

    AllenW
    Mpls, MN
    Posts: 2895
    November 28, 2012 at 10:27 pm #1115789

    Appears I may have misunderstood Mr. Hoffies remark on justified, sorry.

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    November 28, 2012 at 10:39 pm #1115791

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    Do you think he may come back in 2-10 years and take revenge on you and your family….I would want to sleep easy and not have to monitor that situation for the rest of my life.

    Dead people don’t get a second chance.


    I’ve thought about this in some of my thoughts of what will I do in a confrontation. And my thoughts are always if I end up causing bodily harm, I will sleep better if I end it there.

    In my early 20s I beat up a guy substantially bigger than I (before running for my life) and he was not stable. He shot some people when he was on acid as a teenager. I ended up sleeping with one eye open for many weeks.

    I can tell you in all my thoughts I have never thought it would be a good idea to give a description of the event to cops without a lawyer. In fact, I have many “safe” words that I will say out loud for any witnesses, just so they think that I fear my life when finishing them off. I also plan on calling 911 right away and not sleeping on it.

    Of course, it is easy to go over the situation in my head, and who knows what I actually would do.

    Brian Hoffies
    Land of 10,000 taxes, potholes & the politically correct.
    Posts: 6843
    November 28, 2012 at 10:56 pm #1115796

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    Appears I may have misunderstood Mr. Hoffies remark on justified, sorry.

    You and I are fine.

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    November 28, 2012 at 11:18 pm #1115805

    By the way, James, if I am ever arrested for defending myself, please delete this thread. Thanks.

    1hl&sinker
    On the St.Croix
    Posts: 2501
    November 29, 2012 at 3:11 am #1115860

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    By the way, James, if I am ever arrested for defending myself, please delete this thread. Thanks.

    Holy Crankety.

    Man this thread has so many twist and turns it would be a great screen play. Real life [censored] with a 20/20 view of how normal people go wacky over something sensationalized.

    Crud happens every day what makes this so special?

    I just made the greatest pot of turkey soup of my life!!!!

    3 smoked turkey carcases along with veggies and herbs in 3 gallons of water simmered down to a gelatin mass when cooled to make a stock that will last many conjuring recipe.

    MMMMMMMMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    mower
    Wisconsin, Outagamie
    Posts: 515
    November 29, 2012 at 2:21 pm #1115932

    And life goes on. I made Rabbit/Venison Sausage yesterday = goood

    Mike W
    MN/Anoka/Ham lake
    Posts: 13310
    November 29, 2012 at 2:26 pm #1115936

    Police shot and killed a guy in north MPLS last night. From the news this morning it sounded like he was armed but fleeing them. Didnt sound like the police where locked up and charged with murder. All they got was paid leave.

    Bet after today that will be the last we hear of this on the news. Not sure why the story in little falls is such a big issue.

    stuwest
    Elmwood, WI
    Posts: 2254
    November 29, 2012 at 2:42 pm #1115943

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    Not sure why the story in little falls is such a big issue.

    Citizens taking control over definition of ultimate sanction.

    out_fishing
    Moorhead, MN
    Posts: 1151
    November 29, 2012 at 2:54 pm #1115950

    Quote:

    Quote:

    Not sure why the story in little falls is such a big issue.

    Citizens taking control over definition of ultimate sanction.

    Im sure if the cop rolled his body on a tarp and didnt say anything for 24 hours there would be alittle more stir.

    barebackjack
    New Prague, MN.
    Posts: 1023
    November 29, 2012 at 5:56 pm #1116019

    I know how this could have all been avoided…….. I like what someone said earlier in this post and it holds very true. Play stupid games win stupid prizes!

    ptc
    Apple Valley/Isle, MN
    Posts: 614
    November 29, 2012 at 10:22 pm #1116117

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    Not sure why the story in little falls is such a big issue.

    Maybe because the shooter incapacitated both of the criminals, and then rather than calling 911, walked over to the girl held a gun under her chin, pointing it upwards into her skull and fired…

    I’ve read on here that he had to shoot until they were no longer a threat. Clearly he did not view her as a threat if rather than firing from range, he walked up and pressed the gun against her find fired.

    In my mind that is simply wrong!

    They should not have been in his house. With his initial action e was within the law and acting reasonably to protect himself. But then he crossed a very clear line.

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    November 30, 2012 at 12:03 am #1116142

    A real man would have challenged them to an Indian Leg Wrestling match.

    stuwest
    Elmwood, WI
    Posts: 2254
    November 30, 2012 at 12:13 am #1116148

    well, after they were DIS-ARMED, it’s might not have been as challenging…

    (OKOKOKOK, i know that was badbadbad)

    Mike Stephens
    WI.
    Posts: 1722
    November 30, 2012 at 1:16 am #1116163

    sorry but no opinions till all the facts. And we get double bucks after 200 post?

    c_w
    central MN
    Posts: 202
    November 30, 2012 at 2:25 am #1116182

    Does anyone here wonder why he spilled everything to authorities so quickly? He was trained by the State Dept. for foreign security in hostile areas so he’s been trained on being briefed, debriefed, questioned, interrogated, and tortured. The guy who called the authorities said he had called asking questions about getting an attorney. SO does a guy who has been trained, and was asking about attorneys just tell every thing to the first officer he sees?

    Wondering what the local Barney Fife did to make him talk or was it a little something Barney forgot to read?

    Pretty hard to convict when the lone witness’s statements are inadmissible because of a technicality.

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    November 30, 2012 at 4:13 am #1116216

    I think it was the butler in the library.

    deertracker
    Posts: 9249
    November 30, 2012 at 1:32 pm #1116260

    I quess it is easier to claim that the cops screwed up than look into how things really work and make a post that way.

    1. The BCA handles out state murder investigations.
    2. If the information is volunteered with being prompted by questioning, Miranda would not apply.

    DT

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    November 30, 2012 at 1:35 pm #1116263

    3. First new article said he was chirping “after being read the Miranda Warning”.

    4. DT wasn’t working that day.

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