Is there a Perfect Point of View Video Camera?

  • James Holst
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    SE Minnesota
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    #1279216

    Unless you’ve done a masterful job of insulating yourself from some of the new trends in how angler’s share and document their time spent on the water it is highly likely that you’ve come across an angler or two with a small camera strapped to their noggin.

    These small cameras, referred to as Point of View cameras, or POV cams for short, have a very simply purpose. Be small. Be inconspicuous. Capture video from a first person point of view. They can be worn on the body using a head mount or they can be positioned creatively throughout the boat or on the ice to capture the action.

    Now I’ll be the first to point out that what is “perfect” for one angler might be off the mark for another. That said, of all the POV cameras I’ve used to date after trying cameras from all the major brands, the POV camera that works the best for the In-Depth Outdoors production is the V.I.O POV HD.

    V.I.O has been a significant part of our on video shoots for the last year and a half and here’s my short list of the features that I think set it apart from the rest.

    1 – Video quality. The low-light performance, color reproduction, auto-exposure settings and video codec used results is some pretty impressive video. Our editors find it very easy to use V.I.O POV HD footage alongside video from our Panasonic AF100 main cameras without leaving viewers startled at the transition from one video source to another.

    2 – Durability. The entire unit is IP67 rated meaning that even the record head is water-proof to 1 meter. The actual video head has proven to be nearly indestructible and transitions beautifully from above water shots to below water shots without needing to change housings like on some other cameras.

    3 – A V.I.O POV HD comes is a complete kit meaning you don’t have to buy add-on battery packs, monitors, a housing for above water use and yet another for underwater recording. When you buy a V.I.O you get everything. Done. I like that.

    4 – Loop and Forward Mode. This is a biggie for me and if you’re a fisherman that likes to capture those awesome moments without having to wade through hours of footage, this is one that should get your attention. Loop and Forward Mode in the POV HD acts like “pre-record” on prosumer or professional grade video cameras.

    What “Loop and Forward Mode” allows you to do is choose a “loop” time from a few seconds out to several minutes. This “loop” of video functions as a way to record video and NEVER miss a killer shot without storing endless hours of unwanted video.

    If you set the “loop” time for one minute the POV HD will buffer one minute of video, continuously. When something epic happens and you want to record the action all you need do is press the record button on the record head or included wireless remote and you’ll have video from the moment you pressed record AND the preceding one minute of “loop” video you told the VIO HD to record as well.

    As far as I know V.I.O. POV HD is the only POV camera with this functionality and it is the single most important feature anglers should be looking for out of a POV camera because it all but guarantees you’ll never miss that important shot which is the whole reason anglers have started using them on the ice or in the boat in the first place.

    Here’s a quick video In-Depth Outdoors through together on the POV HD.

    Here’s the link to the HD version on Youtube >>> http://youtu.be/QD6vRLdZ5g0?hd=1

    hnd
    Posts: 1579
    #1105219

    only the next bite rivals your production quality and i still think you eek it out in the end. thank you for putting together they shows that you do.

    2 questions.

    is that rainy river/lake?

    and when do the new shows start.

    Grouse_Dog
    The Shores of Lake Harriet
    Posts: 2043
    #1105221

    You could work at Best Buy…..

    Thanks for the insight – not easy to gain for the average Joe looking to buy AV equipment. In the field experience ( Pros and Cons ) is always the best testament of the equipment.

    Dog

    James Holst
    Keymaster
    SE Minnesota
    Posts: 18926
    #1105230

    Quote:


    is that rainy river/lake?


    Some of the footage was from Rainy River. We also mixed in footage from Ontario, Washington Is., Lake of the Woods, South Dakota… all over.

    Quote:


    and when do the new shows start.


    Best question of the day! Here’s your answer >>> Season 7 Starts Nov. 11 – 2012

    James Holst
    Keymaster
    SE Minnesota
    Posts: 18926
    #1105231

    Quote:


    You could work at Best Buy…..


    I’ve become quite the production equipment geek these last few years although I hope a blue dress shirt isn’t in my future.

    Brian Hoffies
    Land of 10,000 taxes, potholes & the politically correct.
    Posts: 6843
    #1105246

    Quote:


    Quote:


    You could work at Best Buy…..


    I’ve become quite the production equipment geek these last few years although I hope a blue dress shirt isn’t in my future.


    But you would look good pulling that Skeeter down the freeway with a “Geek Squad” bug.

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
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    #1105249

    How do they work in the dark?

    James Holst
    Keymaster
    SE Minnesota
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    #1105251

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    How do they work in the dark?


    They have very good low-light performance. But you still need some light.

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #1105254

    Are you saying “I’m bright enough?”

    I’m not sure why I leave the door that far open.

    James Holst
    Keymaster
    SE Minnesota
    Posts: 18926
    #1105255

    Quote:


    Are you saying “I’m bright enough?”

    I’m not sure why I leave the door that far open.


    Nope, just responding accurately to the question “how they work in the dark?” No video camera works in the dark unless you’re willing to watch green-ghost night vision video.

    But in low-light situations the VIO produces a superior image. And the underwater footage is good too.

    For example… this underwater footage was shot with a VIO POV HD. Not too shabby.

    jeff_huberty
    Inactive
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    #1105287

    Quote:


    Are you saying “I’m bright enough?”

    I’m not sure why I leave the door that far open.


    It all depends on Your Energy Souce

    kooty
    Keymaster
    1 hour 15 mins to the Pond
    Posts: 18101
    #1105294

    James,

    What are your thoughts about utilizing a camera like this in the field for us hunters? I’m looking for something like a hat cam/bow cam, that would be good to about 30 yards, likely less. The Loop and Forward would be huge for me.

    A wireless version would open the doors up so much. I think the places a guy could hide a camera/s would be endless when in the field.

    Great review!

    James Holst
    Keymaster
    SE Minnesota
    Posts: 18926
    #1105297

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    James,

    What are your thoughts about utilizing a camera like this in the field for us hunters? I’m looking for something like a hat cam/bow cam, that would be good to about 30 yards, likely less. The Loop and Forward would be huge for me.

    A wireless version would open the doors up so much. I think the places a guy could hide a camera/s would be endless when in the field.

    Great review!


    I think the POV would work well. The POV HD does have a wireless remote so once you have everything framed up you can position yourself away from the record unit and still start and stop the recording.

    If you want to borrow one of mine just let me know. Once we pull the plug on open water I won’t need it back until just before we see walkable ice.

    ggoody
    Mpls MN
    Posts: 2603
    #1105307

    Wow, that’s pretty impressive and priced really fair IMO for what you get. Plus the $100 in additional mounts you recieve if ordered by Nov 1st. I can’t imagine the R&D cost on something like this.

    Well done! ..

    castironkid
    Posts: 34
    #1105308

    Would it be possible (with a custom cable) to feed the video from a Marcum underwater camera to the POV recording unit?

    If so, Marcum or V.I.O. should produce and sell one.

    James Holst
    Keymaster
    SE Minnesota
    Posts: 18926
    #1105311

    Quote:


    Would it be possible (with a custom cable) to feed the video from a Marcum underwater camera to the POV recording unit?

    If so, Marcum or V.I.O. should produce and sell one.


    Possible? Yes. So possible that MarCum’s parent company recently purchased VIO with the intentions of using VIO’s recording capabilities in the LX9. V.I.O. technology will permeate other MarCum systems in the near future.

    MarCum’s old tag line was “One Step Ahead.” I think they’ve up to two or three now.

    AllenW
    Mpls, MN
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    #1105366

    My web search shows $600, bit spendy for me.

    Is this a new camera and if so, I wonder if price will drop as time goes on?
    Hard to tell, I know.

    Al

    James Holst
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    SE Minnesota
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    #1105432

    Quote:


    My web search shows $600, bit spendy for me.

    Is this a new camera and if so, I wonder if price will drop as time goes on?
    Hard to tell, I know.

    Al


    Al,

    No, it isn’t brand new by any means. As for the “will the price go down” question that a tough one to answer. I do know the price has held constant over the last 18 months that I’ve been using them.

    I’ll post on it if I see a sale on them anywhere.

    matt-p
    White Bear Lake, MN
    Posts: 643
    #1105433

    I wish I could afford one.. Those look sweet..

    AllenW
    Mpls, MN
    Posts: 2895
    #1105455

    Quote:


    Quote:


    My web search shows $600, bit spendy for me.

    Is this a new camera and if so, I wonder if price will drop as time goes on?
    Hard to tell, I know.

    Al


    Al,

    No, it isn’t brand new by any means. As for the “will the price go down” question that a tough one to answer. I do know the price has held constant over the last 18 months that I’ve been using them.

    I’ll post on it if I see a sale on them anywhere.


    Just thinking if new they sometimes drop the price after a while or sometimes they discount last years models.
    Thanks.

    Al

    Burr
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    #1105483

    Does this camera have a remote screen, so you can see what you are recording underwater? Does it record sound underwater? Does the remote work underwater?

    Was looking at the go pro II, thought the blue tooth would be a nice feature for some underwater recording – only to find out blue tooth does not work underwater.

    The Aqua Vu Micro is kind of interesting, with the DVR Recorder – only to find out the DVR Recorder is not compatible with the Mico???? What?

    LX9 is interesting, but it’s also way north of 1K. Still researching.

    ggoody
    Mpls MN
    Posts: 2603
    #1105537

    Quote:


    Does this camera have a remote screen, so you can see what you are recording underwater?


    Yes… click on the link and check it out!

    James Holst
    Keymaster
    SE Minnesota
    Posts: 18926
    #1105542

    Quote:


    Quote:


    Does this camera have a remote screen, so you can see what you are recording underwater?


    Yes… click on the link and check it out!


    So you don’t have to scroll all the way back up to the beginning >>> http://vio-pov.com/products-all/pov-hd.html

    James Holst
    Keymaster
    SE Minnesota
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    #1105543

    Quote:


    Does the remote work underwater?


    Yes. And no.

    The remote won’t work underwater but then the record head stays above water so there’s never a scenario where the remote needs to send a signal through anything but air. That’s one of the beauties of a tethered system.

    holstc
    Posts: 124
    #1105727

    Will these cameras except an external mic? If not, how is the sound compared to a stock GoPro2? Also, what is the depth of field on these cameras. Will they capture a deer at 50yards?

    Randy Wieland
    Lebanon. WI
    Posts: 13467
    #1105744

    At 50 yrds they’ll be a bit small. I’ve been playing around a lot with the GoPro (don’t care for it) with hunting and archery. A nice feature would be going from the 140??? degree lens interchanged with a 90-105 degree lens.

    James, Looking at mounting options. I saw the star mount and minor info on the web site. Is there a standard stud mount for the cam head? I need to mount it on my top pic mount of my scope for hunting this year

    James Holst
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    SE Minnesota
    Posts: 18926
    #1105751

    Quote:


    At 50 yrds they’ll be a bit small. I’ve been playing around a lot with the GoPro (don’t care for it) with hunting and archery. A nice feature would be going from the 140??? degree lens interchanged with a 90-105 degree lens.

    James, Looking at mounting options. I saw the star mount and minor info on the web site. Is there a standard stud mount for the cam head? I need to mount it on my top pic mount of my scope for hunting this year


    When using the VIO, or any POV camera, try and stay away from using the ultra-wide angle 1080 settings. People think “WOW, 1080, that’s a bigger number so it is better video, right?”

    Nope. Actually the opposite is true.

    I HIGHLY recommend sticking with 720P video settings on the VIO or other POV cameras unless you’re going for that ultra-wide fishbowl look. Sometimes it works. Most of the time it doesn’t.

    On the VIO the 720P field of view is 95 degrees. At 95 degrees you’ll have a narrower field of view which will make distant objects appear closer than object filmed at 1080 with the wide angle setting.

    Now, back to image quality. On a POV cam the data rate for recordings is set at a maximum of 24mbps. That available data rate is used to create all frames captured in one second.

    The frame size at 720 is smaller than it is at 1080. This means you typically see less artifacting, more accurate color reproduction and less motion blur at 720 than you do at 1080.

    jon_jordan
    St. Paul, Mn
    Posts: 10908
    #1105752

    Also at 720P the data file sizes are smaller and more manageble to edit, back up and load on Youtube.

    -J.

    James Holst
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    SE Minnesota
    Posts: 18926
    #1105753

    Quote:


    At 50 yrds they’ll be a bit small. I’ve been playing around a lot with the GoPro (don’t care for it) with hunting and archery. A nice feature would be going from the 140??? degree lens interchanged with a 90-105 degree lens.

    James, Looking at mounting options. I saw the star mount and minor info on the web site. Is there a standard stud mount for the cam head? I need to mount it on my top pic mount of my scope for hunting this year


    Regarding your mount… Ram is our best friend!

    I’m not sure of the thread or stud size on top of that mount but the most common is 1/4-20. Ram makes a 1″ ball with female threaded stud.

    James Holst
    Keymaster
    SE Minnesota
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    #1105756

    On the camera head side of things I use the 1″ ram ball with shackle.

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