Lawsuit filed to try & Stop the WOLF HUNT!

  • carroll58
    Twin Cities, USA
    Posts: 2094
    #1278913

    The Headline reads as
    “Lawsuit trying to block Minnesota wolf hunting season”

    but I think it should read

    Groups file Lawsuit to try and STOP the Mn/DNR from sound Management of the Wolf population”

    link to Fox 9 KMSP story
    {copyright KMSP Fox 9 Twin Cities}

    ST. PAUL, Minn. (KMSP) – Two groups have filed a lawsuit in an attempt to block the Nov. 3 start of the Minnesota wolf hunting and trapping season.

    Wolves came off the endangered list in Minnesota, Wisconsin and Michigan last January, and the Minnesota Legislature approved a wolf hunt, under rules set by the Department of Natural Resources.

    Howling for Wolves and the Center for Biological Diversity argue the DNR failed to provide an adequate opportunity for public comment on new rules establishing Minnesota’s wolf hunt.

    The groups are asking the Minnesota Court of Appeals for a preliminary injunction to block the wolf hunt until the court can rule.

    Howling for Wolves has billboards on Interstate 35W, promoting its StopTheWolfHunt.org campaign website. The group has also petitioned the DNR to stop the hunt and has filed requests for more information on why the wolves came off the endangered list.

    Opponents of the say the DNR has opened wolf hunting too quickly, arguing that the state’s estimated wolf population of 3,000 is still vulnerable.

    These clowns need to be put in the shoes and try liivng where the Wolves live and have done much damage vs. living in their fantasy land of make believe that they are cute cuddly animals.

    suzuki
    Woodbury, Mn
    Posts: 18625
    #1099486

    Blah blah blah. If its stopped I will be thoroughly ashamed of my state.

    onestout
    Hudson, WI
    Posts: 2698
    #1099488

    Quote:


    These clowns need to be put in the shoes and try liivng where the Wolves live and have done much damage vs. living in their fantasy land of make believe that they are cute cuddly animals.


    I think they are cute and cuddly also, at least their tanned hides keep me warm on cold winter nights.

    big_g
    Isle, MN
    Posts: 22456
    #1099490

    I suppose they want to stop SSSU too…

    suzuki
    Woodbury, Mn
    Posts: 18625
    #1099500

    If these kind of people ever get to be majority our fun/carefree hunting and fishing days are over.

    tbrooks11
    Posts: 605
    #1099501

    The wolf hunt should be cancelled, i completely agree with this. I dont mean to start anything. Im gonna be honest with you, i dont know much about the situation, but i dont think these animals that just got off the endangered list just to shot and killed. Give them some years to grow the population a little bit.

    kooty
    Keymaster
    1 hour 15 mins to the Pond
    Posts: 18101
    #1099502

    So I can sue the DNR every time they don’t provide enough time for public input???

    Quote:


    Howling for Wolves and the Center for Biological Diversity argue the DNR failed to provide an adequate opportunity for public comment on new rules establishing Minnesota’s wolf hunt.


    Mike, I’m a bit surprised it took them this long to file a lawsuit. I will NOT be surprised if the liberal lackies in St. Paul fold to this pressure. Sound biological management is a thing of the past for all critters.

    kooty
    Keymaster
    1 hour 15 mins to the Pond
    Posts: 18101
    #1099507

    Quote:


    The wolf hunt should be cancelled, i completely agree with this. I dont mean to start anything. Im gonna be honest with you, i dont know much about the situation, but i dont think these animals that just got off the endangered list just to shot and killed. Give them some years to grow the population a little bit.


    Here is some info you can educate yourself with:

    http://www.dnr.state.mn.us/mammals/wolves/mgmt.html

    For what it’s worth, the population has been growing for many, many years. To the point they have expanded as far south as the northern suburbs of Minneapolis. There are over 3000 wolves in Mn. The target population is 1500. The 2012 season will close as soon as the target of 400 wolves is reached.

    So there will still be over 2600 wolves in Mn even if the state has 100% success rate. Which will never happen as I’m sure of the 23,000 applicants, as many as 5000 were probably tree huggers who will never hunt a day.

    big_g
    Isle, MN
    Posts: 22456
    #1099508

    You realize the endangered species act/list, is federal ? In other words, there can be 20 wolves in California and 2 million in Minnesota, they can remain on the list for years, while not endangered in a region ? Also admitedly, not knowing about something and having an opinion…you should be in politics for sure

    Grouse_Dog
    The Shores of Lake Harriet
    Posts: 2043
    #1099509

    Who cares….????

    I am so sick of all this treading on the ways of the man living in manland…..

    It is exhausting.

    dog

    Brian Hoffies
    Land of 10,000 taxes, potholes & the politically correct.
    Posts: 6843
    #1099510

    They should bring dogs & wolves to the back yards of these folks. The ones who can correctly identify a dog get a nice pet. Those that think a wolf is a dog get……………. well lets say the anti population would be down.

    I’m pretty sure there is document evidence that wolves, when over populated do far more damage then Zeebs, yet we see no huggers wanting to save the Zeebs.

    super_do
    St Michael, MN
    Posts: 1089
    #1099523

    Quote:


    Im gonna be honest with you, i dont know much about the situation,


    Let’s see….I don’t know anything about this……but it should be stopped? Yep! You need to run for office

    I just read that Minnesota has paid out $175k so far this year to farmers and people who have lost pets from wolves.

    lhprop1
    Eagan
    Posts: 1899
    #1099532

    Quote:


    Mike, I’m a bit surprised it took them this long to file a lawsuit.


    Waiting this long was by design. I’m sure they have some hippie judge in mind that will grant them an injunction on the spot. If they had done it earlier, there would have been plenty of time for a court to make a ruling to reinstate the season.

    By waiting this long, they’re betting that the DNR/sensible people of the state won’t be able to go through the proper legal channels in time to keep the season intact.

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #1099537

    A game of chess you might say…

    deertracker
    Posts: 9241
    #1099541

    Quote:


    The wolf hunt should be cancelled, i completely agree with this. I dont mean to start anything. Im gonna be honest with you, i dont know much about the situation, but i dont think these animals that just got off the endangered list just to shot and killed. Give them some years to grow the population a little bit.


    I’m glad to see you have done your homework before making up your mind. FWIW I saw more wolves than deer last year while muzzleloading in NW Minnesota. If we leave our deer lay more than a few hours, they are gone.
    DT

    Brian Hoffies
    Land of 10,000 taxes, potholes & the politically correct.
    Posts: 6843
    #1099545

    Quote:


    Quote:


    The wolf hunt should be cancelled, i completely agree with this. I dont mean to start anything. Im gonna be honest with you, i dont know much about the situation, but i dont think these animals that just got off the endangered list just to shot and killed. Give them some years to grow the population a little bit.


    I’m glad to see you have done your homework before making up your mind. FWIW I saw more wolves than deer last year while muzzleloading in NW Minnesota. If we leave our deer lay more than a few hours, they are gone.
    DT


    Thats field mice dragging off your deer kills.

    lhprop1
    Eagan
    Posts: 1899
    #1099546

    Quote:


    A game of chess you might say…


    The game is afoot.

    desperado
    Posts: 3010
    #1099551

    Quote:


    Quote:


    A game of chess you might say…


    The game is afoot.


    OR … the fix is in ?

    Boone04
    Fountain city, WI
    Posts: 321
    #1099555

    The newest wisconsin outdoor news showed up today and humain society has been trying to stop the hunt over here with dogs because the wolfs will turn on the dogs and pets will be harmed. Well they won that battle but wi hunt will go on.

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #1099583

    DNR NEWS – FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE SEPTEMBER 18, 2012
    Media contact: Chris Niskanen, DNR communications director, 651-259-5023 or <a href="mailto:[email protected].
    “>[email protected].

    Minnesota wolf management is based on sound science and conservation principles

    The Minnesota Department of Natural Resources (DNR) has been informed that a petition for review was filed today with the Minnesota Court of Appeals in an attempt to stop the state’s upcoming wolf hunting and trapping season. The agency and the Office of the Attorney General have not been served with or reviewed the petition and have no comment on this legal proceeding.

    However, the DNR has stated in the past that the current season poses no biological or conservation threat to the wolf population.

    “The DNR recognizes there is a wide range of opinions toward wolf hunting and trapping, but all Minnesotans should know the DNR’s primary wolf management goal is to ensure the long-term survival of the wolf,” said DNR Commissioner Tom Landwehr. “The DNR’s conservative approach to this first season is based on sound conservation science and principles.”

    While recently removed from the federal threatened list, Minnesota’s wolf population has been recovered since the 1990s and stable for more than a decade.

    The state’s wolf population of about 3,000 is thriving and can sustain a hunting and trapping season consistent with the mission of the DNR for the participation of those interested in hunting and trapping opportunities similar to other managed wildlife.

    The agency is taking a conservative approach to its inaugural season, with a quota of 400 wolves. The agency developed the wolf hunting and trapping season using data and research collected and developed over decades by top wolf experts and wildlife managers.

    In addition to receiving public input on the season, the DNR received strong direction from the Minnesota Legislature, which held hearings on the proposed season.

    “The Legislature, which represents all Minnesotans, had a wide-ranging discussion of the wolf season,” Landwehr said. “It is our job to implement the season in a manner that sustains the population for the long term.”

    To learn more about wolf management and read Frequently Ask Questions about the season, go to
    http://www.dnr.state.mn.us/mammals/wolves/mgmt.html.

    armchairdeity
    Phoenix, AZ, formerly from the NW 'Burbs, Minneapolis, MN, USA
    Posts: 1620
    #1076610

    Quote:


    DNR NEWS – FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE SEPTEMBER 18, 2012
    Media contact: Chris Niskanen, DNR communications director, 651-259-5023 or <a href="mailto:[email protected].
    “>[email protected].

    Minnesota wolf management is based on sound science and conservation principles

    The Minnesota Department of Natural Resources (DNR) has been informed that a petition for review was filed today with the Minnesota Court of Appeals in an attempt to stop the state’s upcoming wolf hunting and trapping season. The agency and the Office of the Attorney General have not been served with or reviewed the petition and have no comment on this legal proceeding.

    However, the DNR has stated in the past that the current season poses no biological or conservation threat to the wolf population.

    “The DNR recognizes there is a wide range of opinions toward wolf hunting and trapping, but all Minnesotans should know the DNR’s primary wolf management goal is to ensure the long-term survival of the wolf,” said DNR Commissioner Tom Landwehr. “The DNR’s conservative approach to this first season is based on sound conservation science and principles.”

    While recently removed from the federal threatened list, Minnesota’s wolf population has been recovered since the 1990s and stable for more than a decade.

    The state’s wolf population of about 3,000 is thriving and can sustain a hunting and trapping season consistent with the mission of the DNR for the participation of those interested in hunting and trapping opportunities similar to other managed wildlife.

    The agency is taking a conservative approach to its inaugural season, with a quota of 400 wolves. The agency developed the wolf hunting and trapping season using data and research collected and developed over decades by top wolf experts and wildlife managers.

    In addition to receiving public input on the season, the DNR received strong direction from the Minnesota Legislature, which held hearings on the proposed season.

    “The Legislature, which represents all Minnesotans, had a wide-ranging discussion of the wolf season,” Landwehr said. “It is our job to implement the season in a manner that sustains the population for the long term.”

    To learn more about wolf management and read Frequently Ask Questions about the season, go to
    http://www.dnr.state.mn.us/mammals/wolves/mgmt.html.


    I wonder if they’re going to put a wolf ramp up and over the 35E/35W spilt by Forest Lake to facilitate wolf breeding migration patterns…

    Maybe that requires a $6M feasibility and environmental impact study before the plan is approved.

    big_g
    Isle, MN
    Posts: 22456
    #1099673

    I heard, they are working on breeding wolves that only eat zeebs…. they have retained the help of the dude at the Bear Center in Ely, as soon as he gets done tying the pink ribbons on “his” bears, he will be looking into this for us all

    suzuki
    Woodbury, Mn
    Posts: 18625
    #1099694

    I heard wolf pelts make for fantastic cold weather protection and its going to be a cold winter.

    Fife
    Ramsey, MN
    Posts: 4046
    #1099715

    I sure hope the courts don’t fold on this one.

    I understand the need to control the population, but I hope that people won’t just shoot them and let them lay. Atleast get the pelt. Can you eat them?

    Brian Hoffies
    Land of 10,000 taxes, potholes & the politically correct.
    Posts: 6843
    #1099727

    Quote:


    Can you eat them?


    Survivorman can.

    As far as shooting them and leaving them, would that be a “wanton waste” violation?

    deertracker
    Posts: 9241
    #1099786

    Yes it would be wanton waste. If you just wanted to shoot one I would bet that any taxidermist may be interested in it.
    DT

    mike_leclaire
    Grand Rapids, MN
    Posts: 412
    #1099812

    I believe we have had several discussions forums on the wolves in MN. Bottom line is there will always be a group for or against such hunting seasons. Each have great point of views on the situation, but that is where it stops at point of view. The majority of people don’t have enough hard facts about the situation nor take the time to find the facts.

    “I don’t know much about the situation, but I think they shouldn’t be hunted. Give the population time to grow.”

    “Why hunt them if you can’t eat them.”

    Not the first time anyone has heard that from someone in support of a NO HUNTING SEASON on wolves.

    If I was a spiteful person I would say “Fine let’s not hunt the wolves, but because of the already growing population of the species let’s capture a few from each pack and relocate them to other areas of the state.” This will help suffice a few things, since wolves can pretty much live anywhere with a sufficient food source and habitat much like a coyote; I believe the banks of the Mississippi in the Metro area would be a good place to drop off maybe 50 or so to start. This will one help stabilize the deer population and stray dogs and cats. Two will help satisfy the support groups that would like to see the Wolf close up, because rest assure when the strays and deer become scarce they will start to target pets in yards whether they are fenced in or not. Three this will definatley help grow the population as the death rate in the metropolitan area will definitly not be as high as in the Northern part of the state for several reasons I am sure most of you can guess and agree with. In a few short years there will be around 1,000 wolves. This calculation method is based on the proven studied rate the MN DNR has been so kind to provide on their website.

    Not only will this help spread the wolf population further but lets take all the tax dollars spent on the relocation of the species to help “GROW” the population and the tax dollars spent on reimbursing to farmers/pet owners for loss of their animals, and just give the bill to the supporters of leaving the wolves alone.

    And yes BK the chess game has begun, and I believe this game will ultimately in the long run end in a stalemate.

    I really hope the courts and the State of Minnesota use some common sense on this matter and doesn’t adhere to the pleas of a minority group.

    Brian Hoffies
    Land of 10,000 taxes, potholes & the politically correct.
    Posts: 6843
    #1099821

    I really hope the courts and the State of Minnesota use some common sense on this matter and doesn’t adhere to the pleas of a minority group

    Let me add this. They are a well funded group. Don’t take your eye off the ball guys. These people aren’t going away.

    Brian Hoffies
    Land of 10,000 taxes, potholes & the politically correct.
    Posts: 6843
    #1099824

    Maybe we need to fight fire with fire. Need to find a photo of a ripped apart dog with a Wolf standing over the carcass. Maybe a caption of: “Do you know where your pet is?” Maybe a metro housing development in the background?

    A dozen billboards on the outer freeway loop might get their attention.

    mike_leclaire
    Grand Rapids, MN
    Posts: 412
    #1099842

    I think relocating the wolves to the metro area would definatley change the minds of a few supporters of the wolves. I have never had it happen to me but have a few friends who have either witnessed their pet being drug off or woke up to find a collar attached to the chain where their dog was the night before or morning before they went to work.

    Not saying just saying the wolves have no fear of humans they go for the easy meal and if its your pet they will be persistent showing up night after night just waiting for the oppurtunity hence why they are called predators.

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