Can Tax Assessors Enter Your Home?

  • suzuki
    Woodbury, Mn
    Posts: 19082
    #1278861

    I think I know the answer but it seems odd you are required to let them search the inside of your home. One stopped by today and left a note indicating that I must make an appt so they can inspect my interior.(county assessor) Will they make note of any un-permited work and fine you for it? I finished a bathroom years ago so I assume this visit will result in a property tax increase. The idea that I have to let the govt in my house seems wrong some how. What do you guys think/know about this?

    Wade Boardman
    Grand Rapids, MN
    Posts: 4469
    #1098666

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    I think I know the answer but it seems odd you are required to let them search the inside of your home. One stopped by today and left a note indicating that I must make an appt so they can inspect my interior.(county assessor) Will they make note of any un-permited work and fine you for it? I finished a bathroom years ago so I assume this visit will result in a property tax increase. The idea that I have to let the govt in my house seems wrong some how. What do you guys think/know about this?


    The way I understand it. You have the right to refuse them access. However then they will assume your house is finished with the highest grade materials and assess it accordingly. It is a cute little game they play.

    sgt._rock
    Rochester, MN
    Posts: 2515
    #1098667

    Not sure on legalities. Is there areas now finished that were not before? ie basement. You could ignore but then if you get assessed higher you would have to contest it and show proof.

    mwal
    Rosemount,MN
    Posts: 1054
    #1098668

    I let an inspector in 20 years ago. Yes they are fishing for stuff. Was grilling me on electrical panel etc and addition to house etc. Those items all were done in the 60’s So they have left notes on door several times and I did not respond for some of your concerns. You are not required to give access.

    Mwal

    tomr
    cottage grove, mn
    Posts: 1309
    #1098669

    This is something I just do not understand. The sq footage of the houses are public record, why do they have to see inside? If your house is this many sq feet your tax should be easy to figure. What does an extra bath or fireplace have to do with it? I did not let the accessor in my home will see how much it costs me.

    saddletramp
    Posts: 159
    #1098670

    I went thru this last summer. you dont have to let them in, but she said that they will assess the highest value they can. hated to let her in, but I did.

    suzuki
    Woodbury, Mn
    Posts: 19082
    #1098673

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    Not sure on legalities. Is there areas now finished that were not before? ie basement. You could ignore but then if you get assessed higher you would have to contest it and show proof.


    I finished a bathroom in the basement. It was rocked but I added water lines and installed toilet, bathtub and sink along with tiling floor. Did it myself with friends help. Did not get permit. Wondering if in addition to increasing my taxes the building inspector will be knocking on my door next?

    sgt._rock
    Rochester, MN
    Posts: 2515
    #1098675

    That was there when you moved in. You just repainted.

    suzuki
    Woodbury, Mn
    Posts: 19082
    #1098676

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    That was there when you moved in. You just repainted.


    Yep.

    sgt._rock
    Rochester, MN
    Posts: 2515
    #1098677

    I remember even using it. After helping carry your stuff (remember how heavy that dresser was and we scratched the wall.) and we drank all that beer. Yeah that was fun.

    suzuki
    Woodbury, Mn
    Posts: 19082
    #1098688

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    I remember even using it. After helping carry your stuff (remember how heavy that dresser was and we scratched the wall.) and we drank all that beer. Yeah that was fun.


    You had me at repainted. Builder must have finished it as an incentive just before I moved in 98.

    chomps
    Sioux City IA
    Posts: 3974
    #1098705

    it’s also a pleasure when the sister-in-law forgets to put curtains and blinds back in the “garage” after cleaning the windows. The Aitken co. assessor refused to keep it a garage after some nosey guy just happened to look in.

    John Peterson
    Woodbury, Minnesota
    Posts: 349
    #1098723

    Suzuki,

    I live in Woodbury as well.
    I went through the same process as you in the past a couple of times.
    “Note on the door, please call us for an appointment.”
    If you have made improvements to the house it helps to know when you made those.
    The same woman did the walk through each time and her version of upgrade history as well.

    Good Luck,

    JDP

    BBKK
    IA
    Posts: 4033
    #1098726

    Make an appointment then on the day of the appointment turn on a recorder and refuse them access to the house. When they threaten to raise your property tax if you dont let them in, still refuse then send the tape to the media.. they will love it.

    Brian Hoffies
    Land of 10,000 taxes, potholes & the politically correct.
    Posts: 6843
    #1098732

    A) No you don’t have to let them in.

    B) Yes they will triple your valuation at which point you will invite them in.

    Here is what I did. I called and told them I had 2 jobs and travel alot. I asked them to grab a calendar and I would help them set the appointment. I suggested I would be home on X Saturday after 5. On X Sunday I would be home between 9 am & 11:30 then it was off to the airport. (Point is if they wanted to see me they needed to do it on their family time as well as mine.) He was ticked to say the least. He said he would just stop by and peek in the windows. I said cool, bring your lawyer with cuz if my wife or teenage daughters are getting out of the shower you will need him. We ended up going round and round. Finally he showed up one Saturday morning, went to the bottom of the landing and looked around. I asked if it looked the same as the last time he was there. He said “I don’t know, I just started this 6 months ago.” I said let me help. This place hasn’t changed since the day it was built 17 years ago.

    Got him on the porch and shot the BS for a few minutes and away he went.

    Ya you need to cooporate with them. But don’t let them walk all over you either. Set the tone, set the pace and above all only answer the questions they ask. Don’t volunteer that you just laid new tile or the man cave is only 3 months old. As with all goverment employees make them feel special and you understand they have a job to do also.

    deertracker
    Posts: 9347
    #1098733

    And if you have a shed in your yard and it’s on blocks its not actually a shed, it’s a fish house. No extra taxes needed.
    DT

    uffdapete
    Rainy Lake, MN
    Posts: 394
    #1098758

    Been there done that. I built a 10 x 16 shed on property in Byron and put it on RR ties. It’s been there about 27 years now, works as well as if on a slab, and free from taxes.

    TheFamousGrouse
    St. Paul, MN
    Posts: 12343
    #1098764

    Quote:


    I think I know the answer but it seems odd you are required to let them search the inside of your home. One stopped by today and left a note indicating that I must make an appt so they can inspect my interior.(county assessor) Will they make note of any un-permited work and fine you for it? I finished a bathroom years ago so I assume this visit will result in a property tax increase. The idea that I have to let the govt in my house seems wrong some how. What do you guys think/know about this?


    It’s the county assessor, not the buiding inspector. Completely seperate.

    The problem is exactly as others have stated. If you refuse (and you can refuse) then you have to live with thier valuation and cannot challenge it without an inspection. See the problem? What are the chances are you will not like the valuation?

    When you say you “finished a bathroom” it’s totally possible that you wouldn’t have needed a permit anyway, if it was a DIY job. As others have said, it was there when you moved it.

    Death and taxes. You don’t have to like ’em, but you can’t avoid ’em either.

    Grouse

    bzzsaw
    Hudson, Wi
    Posts: 3510
    #1098809

    Come on Mike. Just bend over and take it like a man.

    carroll58
    Twin Cities, USA
    Posts: 2094
    #1098826

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    Not sure on legalities. Is there areas now finished that were not before? ie basement. You could ignore but then if you get assessed higher you would have to contest it and show proof.


    I finished a bathroom in the basement. It was rocked but I added water lines and installed toilet, bathtub and sink along with tiling floor. Did it myself with friends help. Did not get permit. Wondering if in addition to increasing my taxes the building inspector will be knocking on my door next?


    I’ll throw another point out about the Building Inspectors showing up or checking because you did work without a permit.

    I did some remodeling, including our main bath a few years back, had everything inspected. In speaking with the State Electrical Inspector (because I put a whole new Panel in to add more circuits and adding a Heated Tile Floor in the bath [PS: My wife did not want to take the time and expense of adding this option, but I insisted, scored many brownie points, she would not go without it now and wants the same installed in out lower level bath.]) I told him how many friends suggested I skip the expense and time of inspections.

    He told me go ahead, but the County Assessor may see the work and report it/check with the City about permits, then they’ll come after you in some cases. He also said the worst case scenario is if you have a Fire or someone gets shocked, the Insurance company may look through the records and if they determine you did work without a permit, they (Insurance Company) may refuse to cover anything blaming it on your personal negligence.

    It was the following year the Assessor came by and checked it out, Tax Value went up.

    Yes, inspections may be a hassle and yes, the assessor will find out sooner or later and yes, the value for taxes goes up.

    lots-of-luck
    Mayer, MN
    Posts: 593
    #1098954

    How about when you go to sell your home? I know my neighbor pulled zero permits when completing his basement and then sold his home. It didn’t seem to hold up that process.

    deertracker
    Posts: 9347
    #1098970

    The way I understand it is that most work can be done without a permit if it is done by a private party. I think an exception would be a city building code. I believe that as long as the electrical is not done by a licensed electrician, it doesn’t need to be inspected. I wired the basement at my last house and sold it without an inspection.
    DT

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