Great transom saver

  • fishnutbob
    Walker, Mn.
    Posts: 611
    #1278470

    Great idea for your Transom saver on your motor. Just put one on my Warrior Boat motor

    Check it out

    buckshot
    Rochester, MN
    Posts: 1654
    #1090746

    I use the same one on my Ranger. Did you get the steering blocks to keep your motor straight? I did they work really slick too.

    fishnutbob
    Walker, Mn.
    Posts: 611
    #1090749

    Yes they come with two.

    suzuki
    Woodbury, Mn
    Posts: 18621
    #1090758

    Doesnt that just support the motor and the rams at the expense of the transom? My transom saver anchors to the trailer frame.

    Update-just saw your post on WC and responder nailed it. This is motor support like it says on the device.

    Seems nice.

    mike_leclaire
    Grand Rapids, MN
    Posts: 412
    #1090763

    I use a similar one on my Lund, works awesome. Except when you forget about it and try to launch your boat in a shallow landing and can’t figure out why the motor won’t trim down.

    fishnutbob
    Walker, Mn.
    Posts: 611
    #1090765

    Mike.

    Web site http://www.m-ywedge.com for you to see the product

    “Quote” from the web site

    New m-ywedge™ Motor Support Solves Outboard Motor Trailering Problems for Good!!! Transom Saver !

    Yamaha/m-ywedge Manufacturing Raveling OutdoorS! Order Direct! The days of the inconvenient, out-of-date, Outboard Motor Transom Saver is over for good, thanks to the arrival of the innovative new motor support, m-ywedge™!

    311hemi
    Dayton, MN
    Posts: 742
    #1090773

    Sorry for my ignorance, but what exactly does this device accomplish?

    Saves transom from weight of motor bouncing, saves motor mounts or tilt trim mechanism, just keeps the motor from bouncing?

    suzuki
    Woodbury, Mn
    Posts: 18621
    #1090778

    Quote:


    Mike.

    Web site http://www.m-ywedge.com for you to see the product

    “Quote” from the web site

    New m-ywedge™ Motor Support Solves Outboard Motor Trailering Problems for Good!!! Transom Saver !

    Yamaha/m-ywedge Manufacturing Raveling OutdoorS! Order Direct! The days of the inconvenient, out-of-date, Outboard Motor Transom Saver is over for good, thanks to the arrival of the innovative new motor support, m-ywedge™!


    It does seem nice and I have no doubt useful for supporting just the motor. I see what they advertise on the website.

    I need someone smarter than me to explain how this product replaces the old style transom saver or alleviates stress from the transom in any way. I suppose it may cushion the blow but it still rests on the transom.

    out_fishing
    Moorhead, MN
    Posts: 1151
    #1090779

    Im with you Suzuki. I dont understand how it supports the transom.

    Joe Scegura
    Alexandria MN
    Posts: 2758
    #1090803

    Quote:


    It does seem nice and I have no doubt useful for supporting just the motor. I see what they advertise on the website.

    I need someone smarter than me to explain how this product replaces the old style transom saver or alleviates stress from the transom in any way. I suppose it may cushion the blow but it still rests on the transom.


    X3. I agree.

    It sure is simple, too bad it mathematically cannot save your transom. Even though I have a background in engineering, I don’t think you need one to see that there is no way for the “wedge” to take the motor torque off of your transom.

    The old “out of date” transom savers they refer to are the only way I know of to take the motor torque off of your transom.

    danno
    Central MN
    Posts: 323
    #1090811

    Quote:


    It sure is simple, too bad it mathematically cannot save your transom.


    Well, “mathematically” it does the exact same thing.

    Yamaha even endorses these “wedge” type transom savers.

    fishnutbob
    Walker, Mn.
    Posts: 611
    #1090812

    Quote:


    Quote:


    It sure is simple, too bad it mathematically cannot save your transom.


    Well, “mathematically” it does the exact same thing.

    Yamaha even endorses these “wedge” type transom savers.


    Danno bingo yes they do Yamaha tested these before they endoresed them

    Joe Scegura
    Alexandria MN
    Posts: 2758
    #1090816

    Ya it’s fine for the motor. There is no reason Yamaha wouldn’t endorse it. I’d like to see a boat manufacturer endorse it. We’re talking about “saving the transom” here aren’t we?

    If you don’t supprt the motor beyond the motor CG (center of gravity) there will still be torque applied to the transom. So no it doesn’t do the same thing.

    danno
    Central MN
    Posts: 323
    #1090819

    As long as the motor doesn’t bounce, which is the entire reason and goal for a transom saver, then the two different styles do the exact same thing.

    If the static load of a motor hanging off the back of a boat was damaging there would be broken transoms on every boat out there.

    The dynamic load (bouncing) is the key here. Stop the bounce and you prevent the potential damage to a transom.

    biggill
    East Bethel, MN
    Posts: 11321
    #1090833

    Quote:


    As long as the motor doesn’t bounce, which is the entire reason and goal for a transom saver, then the two different styles do the exact same thing.

    If the static load of a motor hanging off the back of a boat was damaging there would be broken transoms on every boat out there.

    The dynamic load (bouncing) is the key here. Stop the bounce and you prevent the potential damage to a transom.


    I see a lot of transoms that are damaged or very soft. All you are doin with this thing is absorbing some of the shock load. There is still a decent load being applied to the transom. Watch the video closely. The motor stil bounces.

    It’s simple, you can’t possibly eliminate the shock if the device is attached to the transom. This still creates a hinge-like action when shock is applied. With the traditional transom saver, the shock is applied in a much more vertical direction.

    We need an engineer to run an FEA on this to prove it.

    biggill
    East Bethel, MN
    Posts: 11321
    #1090836

    Oh, FYI… I bought the smaller wedge a few years back from Rapid Marine, the service guy there told me straight up that it will do nothing for the transom. I purchased it only for winter storage.

    fishnutbob
    Walker, Mn.
    Posts: 611
    #1090850

    “Quote” Danno As long as the motor doesn’t bounce, which is the entire reason and goal for a transom saver, then the two different styles do the exact same thing.

    Very true Danno, and also when I put this on my boat the weight of the motor is over the transom trimmed up high which distributes the weight over the transom thus no bounce from the lower unit.

    Good discussion thanks everyone. I even learned something today. Use what ever you perfer

    Paul Heise
    River Falls, Wi
    Posts: 723
    #1090854

    Quote:


    Im with you Suzuki. I dont understand how it supports the transom.



    I’m in this camp also! I use the trailer supported version and everything seems to bounce in unison rather than at random different directions.

    big_g
    Isle, MN
    Posts: 22454
    #1090871

    I know what people are saying both ways, but I gotta believe it is also like when I used to pull my snowmobile out of the back of my truck and have it “slam” to the ground… my buddies would say “man, your gonna wreck something doing that”… my response…”that’s gonna be the softest landing it has all day” Do you know how much “torque” your transom takes at WOT or banging across the lake ?? WAY more than it’s getting with “any” device to stop the bouncing… and I ain’t even no engineer.. but I do like trains

    danno
    Central MN
    Posts: 323
    #1090877

    Quote:


    We need an engineer to run an FEA on this to prove it.


    Well I ares one, and not one that drives trains, and you don’t need a FEA to show that the wedge works just as well as the traditional transom saver.

    Joe Scegura
    Alexandria MN
    Posts: 2758
    #1090885

    Quote:


    Quote:


    We need an engineer to run an FEA on this to prove it.


    Well I ares one, and not one that drives trains, and you don’t need a FEA to show that the wedge works just as well as the traditional transom saver.


    I’m an engineer as well. I think the thing we are disagreeing on is what we’re trying to accomplish. I want to take the load off of my transom and stop bouncing. You on the other hand want to only stop the bouncing.

    In my experience if you don’t support the extended load you will still have torque applied to the transom. By supporting the bottom of the motor you remove the bouncing and the chance of extreme torque being applied to your transom. Something the wedge cannot do.

    What I would like to know is how a chunk of rubber can keep something from bouncing?

    mike_j
    Nashua Iowa
    Posts: 754
    #1090888

    Even my first time putting on a traditional transom saver I didn’t have the problems that guy in the video does. It takes me about 15 seconds to put mine on and it works just fine so whats the advantage of the wedge?

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #1090896

    Verbally, all Al said in the video is that m-y wedge does is “supports the heaviest motor, takes the load off the tilt system and holds the motor in a raised position”.

    Never said anything about the transom.

    James Holst
    Keymaster
    SE Minnesota
    Posts: 18926
    #1090900

    Quote:


    Verbally, all Al said in the video is that m-y wedge does is “supports the heaviest motor, takes the load off the tilt system and holds the motor in a raised position”.

    Never said anything about the transom.


    I’ve talked to the Skeeter engineers about this type of “saver” and their comments mirror what was mentioned previously by another poster. Simply put, if you need a transom saver to protect your transom the first good wave you hit would rip the transom apart. The magnitude of the forces involved hitting waves at speed make anything you’ll see going down the road rather meaningless.

    I use the Wedge and I can’t think of any reason to go back to the bent pole version. If it provides added comfort to you by using the bent pole version, do it. There’s no reason not to. I love the wedge for its compact size and the fact the there’s no rubber foot rubbing paint off my lower unit.

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #1090903

    Quote:


    Simply put, if you need a transom saver to protect your transom the first good wave you hit would rip the transom apart. The magnitude of the forces involved hitting waves at speed make anything you’ll see going down the road rather meaningless.


    I take that to mean ANY transom saver isn’t worth the money, correct?

    danno
    Central MN
    Posts: 323
    #1090904

    Quote:


    I’m an engineer as well. I think the thing we are disagreeing on is what we’re trying to accomplish. I want to take the load off of my transom and stop bouncing. You on the other hand want to only stop the bouncing.


    Bouncing is the precise thing that we are trying to prevent, hence the reason for a transom saver.

    The static load of the engine is there whether you use a bar type saver or the wedge style.

    Quote:


    In my experience if you don’t support the extended load you will still have torque applied to the transom.


    The lower unit could be 10 feet long and weigh 1000 pounds, but if it doesn’t move (bounce) the transom doesn’t know any different. It is still the same weight hanging on the transom whether you have a bar, wedge, or a block of wood holding it up.

    Quote:


    What I would like to know is how a chunk of rubber can keep something from bouncing?


    The same way a regular transom saver does.

    You lower the motor down on the wedge just like the typical bar type. It is just as snug and does the same job.

    James Holst
    Keymaster
    SE Minnesota
    Posts: 18926
    #1090907

    Quote:


    I take that to mean ANY transom saver isn’t worth the money, correct?


    I would assume there’s merit in taking pressure off the trim/tilt cylinder but I’m not an engineer and I don’t play one on TV.

    I do know that Skeeter provides a My-wedge style “saver” with every boat I’ve ever purchased from them but I don’t think the reason for it has anything to do with preserving the integrity of the transom itself.

    red89
    Hudson
    Posts: 918
    #1090923

    I would like something like this for my 95′ 40 horse evinrude, but i’m pretty sure they dont make something that fits that. I just flip the trim tab things, but it sits up a lot higher than it needs to.

    I’m gonna go with james on this one, but we do have the bent bar style on the bigger boat, only because it came with it.

    Oh, and we already had this discussion not that long ago…

    Bullet21XD
    Posts: 174
    #1090927

    I just started using a MotorMate transom saver this spring. Similar to the M Y Wedge.

    There is way less…as in NONE…movement in the motor while trailering. Going from the old style that rests on the trailer…this style is much better. There was a fair amount of bounce with my old transom saver.

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