Going from PC to Apple tips…?

  • mfreeman451
    Posts: 543
    #1090794

    Here are some more reasons for you James..

    OSX is UNIX! UNIX was written by two geniuses from Bell Labs in 1969 and it’s derivatives remain the most popular OS for servers powering basically everything in the world. It is the most installed base platform of any OS ever. 830,000 new Linux devices are turned on every day.

    OSX is more secure, there are far fewer vulnerabilities discovered and reported on OSX than there are Windows. OSX is virus and malware RESISTANT. Windows itself has gotten a lot better about security but the problem still remains.

    The hardware is better supported – Apple writes software that works on specific hardware that was thoroughly tested by their engineers. Instead of trying to write an OS that works on hundreds and thousands of different components, an drivers to power all of those different devices, apple only has to write a few. DUH.

    mfreeman451
    Posts: 543
    #1090795

    No way at all. It wouldn’t be economical. Companies in the valley sure, but the Target, Medtronic, USBank, or whomevers of the world will probably never move their userbase to a Mac.

    We’ll see corporations moving away from Windows and putting thin clients on peoples desk powered by Linux in the back-end way before that.

    Quote:


    Are you seeing massive moves to the Apple platform at large corporations in the US? The reason I ask, there is rarely ever a requirement for Apple experience in any of the infrastructure positions I watch.


    mfreeman451
    Posts: 543
    #1090798

    All I’m saying is if you’re in the market for a new computer, and you are already leaning towards Apple, go for it! Great company, great products, great user experience. If you are in the market for such a thing and price was ever a concern, I’m not sure how Apple ever got on your radar to begin with.

    You’re right, you can do a lot of stuff on a 200$ netbook.

    If you want a taste of the good life, try out a Mac.

    .m

    James Holst
    Keymaster
    SE Minnesota
    Posts: 18926
    #1090799

    Quote:


    Here are some more reasons for you James..

    OSX is UNIX! UNIX was written by two geniuses from Bell Labs in 1969 and it’s derivatives remain the most popular OS for servers powering basically everything in the world. It is the most installed base platform of any OS ever. 830,000 new Linux devices are turned on every day.

    OSX is more secure, there are far fewer vulnerabilities discovered and reported on OSX than there are Windows. OSX is virus and malware RESISTANT. Windows itself has gotten a lot better about security but the problem still remains.

    The hardware is better supported – Apple writes software that works on specific hardware that was thoroughly tested by their engineers. Instead of trying to write an OS that works on hundreds and thousands of different components, an drivers to power all of those different devices, apple only has to write a few. DUH.


    I’m honestly trying to walk away… but… forgive me. I’m weak.

    Do you really think ANYTHING you say can erase years of personal experience? Hours spent troubleshooting units. Dollars spent replacing them. Really? Do you really think telling me who designed what is going to change my reality?

    I don’t care of UNIX was written by the DIVINE SPIRIT OF ALL THINGS BINARY nothing you say can undo the dead motherboards, shorted USB hubs and all those late nights that end with me screaming at that unholy spinning beach ball of death that precedes yet another “Force Quit.”

    This will be my last post on this. In an effort to end on a more humorous note I do plan to bookmark this thread so when my lead editor has to reinstall your beloved OSX yet again and rebuild his editing system like he has to do 2-3 times a year we can have a chuckle.

    mfreeman451
    Posts: 543
    #1090800

    sorry you’ve had so many problems, I’ve gone through the same issues with all sorts of different hardware.

    Maybe you should hire a competent IT guy to take care of your employees stuff so it doesn’t break so often.

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    #1090801

    I love it when someone fulfills a fanboi stereotype.

    mfreeman451
    Posts: 543
    #1090804

    I don’t even own a macbook, wish I did.. don’t have an iPhone either, and my iPad barely gets used.

    mfreeman451
    Posts: 543
    #1090807

    Apple has issues, just a lot less of them. Windows XP is what really gave Microsoft a bad name. Any efforts to secure XP were always considered “bolted on” and were easily evaded. Microsoft has spent the last 10 years learning from their mistakes, instituting secure coding practices, and performing code audits internally and from the Internet at large. It might be harder to compare who is more secure, WIndows 7 or the latest version of OSX, but like you said it probably doesn’t matter since Windows is the prolific OS and preferred target of enterprising virus/malware authors and global criminal organizations.

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    Let me preface this by saying I’m not a computer guy.

    I keep hearing that Apple doesn’t have issues with viruses. Isn’t that because nobody used their products up until the iPod put them back on the radar? Why would a hacker bother writing a virus for a platform that not many people use?

    Apple is a luxury company. Do you see people putting PC related stickers on their cars? Nope. But you see that stupid little apple all over the place. They have a great marketing team, period.

    There’s my $.02


    pool13_jeff
    NW, IL
    Posts: 884
    #1090810

    For what it is worth: I have them both and support them both. Been doing it since ’92. Way back then, I liked Macs much more, but supporting PCs paid my mortgage. Today, I’ll take a PC over a MAC every time, unless it is for our marketing dept. My Air hardly gets touched anyomore.

    Joe Scegura
    Alexandria MN
    Posts: 2758
    #1090813

    Quote:


    Quote:


    Here are some more reasons for you James..

    OSX is UNIX! UNIX was written by two geniuses from Bell Labs in 1969 and it’s derivatives remain the most popular OS for servers powering basically everything in the world. It is the most installed base platform of any OS ever. 830,000 new Linux devices are turned on every day.

    OSX is more secure, there are far fewer vulnerabilities discovered and reported on OSX than there are Windows. OSX is virus and malware RESISTANT. Windows itself has gotten a lot better about security but the problem still remains.

    The hardware is better supported – Apple writes software that works on specific hardware that was thoroughly tested by their engineers. Instead of trying to write an OS that works on hundreds and thousands of different components, an drivers to power all of those different devices, apple only has to write a few. DUH.


    I’m honestly trying to walk away… but… forgive me. I’m weak.

    Do you really think ANYTHING you say can erase years of personal experience? Hours spent troubleshooting units. Dollars spent replacing them. Really? Do you really think telling me who designed what is going to change my reality?

    I don’t care of UNIX was written by the DIVINE SPIRIT OF ALL THINGS BINARY nothing you say can undo the dead motherboards, shorted USB hubs and all those late nights that end with me screaming at that unholy spinning beach ball of death that precedes yet another “Force Quit.”

    This will be my last post on this. In an effort to end on a more humorous note I do plan to bookmark this thread so when my lead editor has to reinstall your beloved OSX yet again and rebuild his editing system like he has to do 2-3 times a year we can have a chuckle.


    I can’t be the only guy laughing out loud right now Too funny.

    corey_waller
    hastings mn
    Posts: 1525
    #1090832

    OMG this is the funniest chit since the Madela Pump for sale

    blue-fleck
    Dresbach, MN
    Posts: 7872
    #1090834

    I’m a Mac guy. Been working on one steady for over 15yrs. We have 4 in the Dept. I manage, and 14 in the Art Dept. where I work. We don’t experience the issues James has, but we also don’t use them in a video aspect like James does. I’m not a Mac technician so I won’t take a guess at why James has experienced the issues he has.

    I would say, if you don’t have specific use for a Mac, you’re over spending. I run a PC at home the $800 I spent on it has been well worth it when comparing it to the price of a Mac.

    I would suggest you really ask yourself if spending the extra $$$ for a Mac is worth the added cost for what you’ll get out of it.

    Best of luck with your purchase.

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #1090837

    Hey Jiggy?

    Did that answer your question?

    If not, I grew up on a Mac and if I had a free Mac and a PC in front of me to take…

    I would take the Mac.

    However for the average and below average user, there’s not that much difference and certainly nothing to be concerned with.

    I’m not an IT guy. I don’t play one on tv or the internet. Just an average Joe Mac that uses both frequently.

    Ps Had a mother board break over my behind at one time. Never forget that experience.

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    #1090838

    You guys like this thread now? Just wait until Windows 8 comes out. Its going to be ugly. I have played around with the pre-release version and I don’t think many people are going to like it. Personally, what little I played around with, I did get used to and it grew on me. But I know a lot of people are not going to like the user interface, even if you can switch to the old style. Basically they are trying to bring a mobile feel to the desktop.

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #1090840

    ‘spose I could just delete my post above and say…

    “What Blue said”.

    mfreeman451
    Posts: 543
    #1090849

    The Mall of America has an Apple store and Microsoft store right across the hall from each other on the 1st floor.

    Go see what you like better.

    .m

    kooty
    Keymaster
    1 hour 15 mins to the Pond
    Posts: 18101
    #1090852

    I read that the other day. It took me a bit to get used to Win 7 since we skipped Vista, but not long to pick it up.

    kooty
    Keymaster
    1 hour 15 mins to the Pond
    Posts: 18101
    #1066457

    Quote:


    The Mall of America has an Apple store and Microsoft store right across the hall from each other on the 1st floor.

    Go see what you like better.

    .m


    That’s a great suggestion. I would not pay MOA prices though.

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    #1090869

    So first he should decide by stock prices and now you suggest he buy based on the looks of a store???

    mfreeman451
    Posts: 543
    #1090913

    Quote:


    So first he should decide by stock prices and now you suggest he buy based on the looks of a store???


    Go see what product you like better, you know you can play around on the machines in the store right? Apple has a technically superior product IMO, sorry you are so butt hurt about that.

    .m

    Follmerpa
    white bear lake
    Posts: 134
    #1090926

    The only one who really made any sense here was BK.
    Everybody else was in a pissing match. My wife worked for the st.paul school systems 12 years they are all Mac. period.
    Now she handles the state employee retirement accounts, you guessed it Mac.

    This poor guy got more nonsense then I think he was looking for,all that happened here was Lets see who can drop more info and technology that anybody else. I think I will start a Ford vs Chevy thread see what comes of that.

    If it helps the poster of this thread, I have two Dell laptops a Toshiba laptop, they all run fine. But Im buying a Mac. You know why? Because I can.
    Plain and simple we buy what we want because we can.

    Brian K my hats off to ya, the only voice of reason.

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #1090930

    Quote:


    Brian K my hats off to ya, the only voice of reason.


    What the ‘ell is this world coming to?

    hnd
    Posts: 1579
    #1090933

    we have a macbook in the house and run a pc desktop. i have a laptop running win 7. i’ll take my pc’s all day over the macbooks. the macbooks do the media editting fantastically and are so easy i haven’t even attempted to see what windows as to offer there. however everything else is better for me on a pc.

    from a hardware standpoint, our macbook actually has had more problems than any pc i’ve ever owned.

    as its been said, each has their place. college kids and hipsters have been saying that windows was dying for years. when the original imac came out in its variety of fruity colors they started on that bandwagon.

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    #1090939

    Quote:


    Go see what product you like better, you know you can play around on the machines in the store right? Apple has a technically superior product IMO, sorry you are so butt hurt about that.

    .m


    It was a joke.

    I’m not hurt by anything. I had good things and bad things to say about both.

    If money were no object, here’s how I would decide. Maybe he can use this to help make a decision.

    If I wanted to be mobile, I’d get a Macbook Pro laptop, but I would boot right into windows and not even us the Mac OS. But a lot of that has to do with being a developer. If I weren’t I wouldn’t both with spending extra money on Windows, I’d use the Mac OS pre installed.

    If I didn’t need to be mobile, I’d get a desktop and it would be a PC running Windows. For the same money I would spend on a Mac, I could get a killer gaming machine.

    I have enjoyed the rants and smugness in the posts on both sides though.

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #1090943

    Quote:


    Brian K my hats off to ya, the only voice of reason.


    Am I the only one that read this?

    big_g
    Isle, MN
    Posts: 22450
    #1090945

    Quote:


    Quote:


    Brian K my hats off to ya, the only voice of reason.


    Am I the only one that read this?


    Nope…I did. But then decided, the comment holds no salt as the guy (foolmerpa) must not have read my 2 comments. They were concise, accurate and in no way contained any urine…. I hope he doesn’t hurt his head, when he falls off that high soapbox

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #1090958

    A Debbie Downer.

    cat-stevens
    Rochester,MN
    Posts: 449
    #1090997

    This is what I get for venturing outside the cat forum.

    I think I’ll go back home now..

    jigging_jag
    SE Minnesota
    Posts: 203
    #1091072

    You guys are crazier than my wife sometimes.

    Thanks for all the help guys! I think I’m more confused
    now.

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #1091074

    Quote:


    I think I’m more confused
    now.


    Wasn’t that the goal?

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