Folks, sit down, have a dr. pepper, and enjoy this ride! Having countless late family members in the local catholic cemetery, as well as many more currently deeply rooted in the community, I can tell you first hand this is not going to go over to well for Ms. Roden.
The meeting was very well attended by “Supporters – Friends of Archie”.
Many lakeshore residents all in favor of Archie spoke along with Chris Glaze whom helped organize much support and really get this rolling, Paul Becka, former President, Minnesota Bass Federation, myself and others. Even his next door neighbor, living less than 200 ft. from the access had no problems or complaints in the way he has ran this tiny little business. The Crowd CHEERED 
when those in favor of Archie spoke.
Many spoke in favor of Grandfathering him in and not charging him the $1,500 C.U.P. Application & Permit Fee (The $1,500 Fee was donated by a Minnesota Fishing Organization)
Only 2 or 3 spoke in favor of increasing restrictions, (A.I.S. Inspections, the need for a porta-potty) etc.
Some of the restrictions proposed were striping for the 6-vehicle & trailer limit, Repairing the Dock, putting up signage and having the gate locked when unattended.
The Planning Commission voted unanimous to send this to the City Council with the support approving the Conditional Use Permit.
The Victoria City Council will see this come before them on Monday evening, July 9th at 6:30pm.
Let’s pack the house in support of Archie.
I’d like to email Kim Roden to talk about this great outcome (Start anyway), but unfortunately, we are in what she likes to call, “Email Jail”.
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Michael, we have reached what I call “email jail.” We will not be able to have a good dialogue continuing this. It is unfortunate that you seem to be a captive of your own choice of facts. When that happens, not much good can come from it, I believe.
However, I admire your spirit but am disappointed that you are so judgmental when you don’t have all the information. I have served on public bodies for over 10 years and I can assure you, you have to represent everyone in order to do the job. It appears you have already made up your mind so more information will not help you. I will not be responding further but wish you all the best.
Best Regards, Kim Roden
You think she might get the picture who she is really representing after tonight? As an official, are you your own constituent?
She must not have ever heard of Satveer Chaudharygate.
mplspug I like your pic, Thanks
Its a bit cheesy, but it makes the point.
Who’s Michael? 
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I admire your spirit but am disappointed that you are so judgmental
She’ll get use too it, we have
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I admire your spirit but am disappointed that you are so judgmental
She’ll get use too it, we have
Funny how she is calling me judgmental. All I did was ask questions and she proceeded to judge me telling me what I was doing. Me thinks she needs to get out of the kitchen, because the heat is too much.
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I’d like to email Kim Roden to talk about this great outcome (Start anyway), but unfortunately, we are in what she likes to call, “Email Jail”.
No, only that one email address is stuck in jail. 
With the Council meeting coming up on Monday evening, we need as many supporters as possible to Call or E-Mail &/or if possible, show up at Monday’s Council Meeting.
Victoria City Council Meeting
Monday July 9th, 6:30 pm
Victoria City Hall
7951 Rose Street
Victoria, MN 55386
Phone: (952) 443-4210
Please ask that they Approve the Conditional Use Permit (C.U.P.) and that they do so Grandfathering him in, thus refunding the $1,500 Permit Fee.
Current Victoria City Council
Member Title
Mary Hershberger Thun Mayor
Jim Crowley Council Member
Tom O’Connor Council Member
Kim Roden Council Member
Tom Strigel Council Member
I’ll post their phone numbers and emails later or you can google most of them.
One tip is the current Mayor has nothing to lose as she is not running for re-election. Council member Tom O’Connor is running for the Mayor’s seat.
We need to be Civil about this and use Facts. Let’s all support Archie and get his life back and protect access to Public Water’s.
Support for Archie since the story broke in the Star Tribune Tuesday has been just awesome.
Many have dropped donations at “School of the Wise” School of the Wise website (a small Wine Bar & Deli with great food and atmosphere) or Cabin Fever Sporting Goods Cabin Fever website supplying most all of your Hunting and Fishing needs or sent donations directly to the family.
Others have contacted me and/or the family to offer other services such as “Republic Services” a.k.a. “Allied Waste” offering to supply the Waste, Compost & Recycling services required by the City of Victoria “Conditional Use Permit (C.U.P.) if approved and if they can get their trucks in there to service this small business upon acceptance by the family.
This just shows we have great outstanding people and businesses that truly care about others.
The family says “WOW” at all of the generosity, they are very thankful and look forward to seeing Archie again filled with joy as he greets fishermen and the community as they use his landing on Schutz Lake.
Got this from the mayor. I told her she’d be a fool to not grandfather him in…
Dear “Archie’s Friends”,
As Mayor of Victoria, I appreciate the time and concern that you all took to send me your thoughts about “Archie’s Landing” on Schutz Lake located in Victoria, MN. I am sorry that I am close to a week late in responding to all of you, but I have been out of town. Although I carried my IPAD, I wanted to respond from my home office after reading and giving serious consideration to all of your thoughts and suggestions. I have also asked Victoria’s City clerk to forward your thoughts to other Council members, if you asked me to do that. Because of Open Meeting Laws, I am not at liberty to forward the emails myself.
Tomorrow night, Monday, July 9, at Victoria’s City Council meeting, which begins at 6:30 PM, the City Council will consider granting Archie’s family a Conditional Use Permit (CUP) to enable Archie to re-open his “landing”. Victoria’s Planning Commission has recommended to the Council that we grant a CUP, and they have agreed with staff findings of approving the CUP with certain conditions, such as hours and number of vehicles permitted etc.
Those are the “facts”. Here are my personal thoughts, in one email addressed to all who have contacted me, in response to your suggestions and comments. Some of the below I will be sharing with the public at the Council meeting.
1. As some of you mentioned, I too am embarrassed and distressed that this situation could not be resolved at the neighborhood level. This is particularly unfortunate because the family involved with the landing has apparently been operating the landing since 1933. Unfortunately, when residents chose to involve the City’s governing unit, we must act according to what our ordinances seem to dictate. I will be questioning Victoria’s City attorney as to whether Archie’s is truly a businesses or as some of you have alleged, Archie and his family have simply opened their landing as a public service, to people that they know, including many of the current Schutz Lake residents – – – who, because of topography, have no actual access to the Lake on which they live. I also will be asking the City Attorney about the possibility of “grandfathering in” Archie’s Landing without a fee (see 3. below).
2. Some of you have suggested that the controversy is simply a ploy to keep Schutz Lake “private”. I cannot speak for the complainants as to whether or not this is one of their intentions. From comments I have reviewed, the complainants appear to have some legitimate concerns. What I am concerned about is that the CUP does not, and legally, cannot, address some of their concerns, which could lead to further discourse. Furthermore, I am concerned that some of the conditions attached to the CUP may be difficult to enforce. Once again, I believe that many of the complaints could have been resolved at the neighborhood level.
3. I understand that funds have been donated to help Archie and his family pay for the CUP. I do not know how much has been donated but I have asked for the tally – if anyone has an accurate tally. Once again, I am embarrassed. Please understand that the City does incur certain costs whenever a permit is issued and certainly, there are attorney and other costs when there is controversy. For a variety of reasons, and in this case, I don’t personally support a fee and certainly do not support payment for anything beyond the $500 CUP application fee. However, I will also be asking our City Attorney to comment on the “setting of precedent” should the Council decide to waive any portion of the fee and/or incidental costs.
4. Some of you commented that you believe that “the City” is “out to get Archie”. From reading the Star Tribune’s July 3, 2012 article, it certainly appears that way. However, “the City” and the body of the City Council, is only taking action because we have been brought into what I will continue to allege is a neighborhood situation. Government action sometimes takes place as a response, in this case, to a complaint. In this case, the “government” is charged with enforcing – – – an ordinance. Whether or not an ordinance is being violated is a question I have for our City Attorney.
Finally, I am sorry to hear that some of the writer’s of emails to me have stated that we don’t take seriously that Victoria is a “City of Lakes and Parks” and that some of you will chose to do business elsewhere because of the Archie controversy. We are very proud of our City, which encompasses all or a portion of 13 lakes and 23 parks (for over 2,000 acres). We have dedicated substantial dollars to our parks and trails for all people who live and visit Victoria to use. Schutz Lake is one of the lakes that I hope will continue to be an attraction to visitors. It is pristine and I hear good fishing can be found! Regarding doing business in Victoria, our businesses have worked very hard to be a place where you, your family and friends, can shop and enjoy. To penalize Victoria’s businesses because of this issue is sad – – – I hope you will rethink this and continue to patronize our businesses and also, enjoy our lakes and parks.
Thank you, again, for your thoughts.
Sincerely,
Mary Hershberger Thun, Mayor
City of Victoria
I got the same letter. If I am understanding everything, the Lake Association like and supports Archie. It allows them access and apparently they don’t mind having private access for the public.
One confirmed lakeshore owner had “concerns” about the landing and decided to bring up an issue to in the least force Archie to pay for a permit. This confirmed person claims to have fielded several hundred complaints over the years.
If the association approves of the landing, it makes you wonder exactly how many people complained….or if there were any other home owners who complained.
Its tough to say, since the one person I emailed could not explain why she thought she needed to complain because people were fishing in front of her…er his or her dock catching fish after fish and then releasing them.
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Its tough to say, since the one person I emailed could not explain why she thought she needed to complain because people were fishing in front of her…er his or her dock catching fish after fish and then releasing them.
And now that you’re in email jail, we will probably never know.
Why does one person complaining amount to anything? Majority rules.
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And now that you’re in email jail, we will probably never know.
Its too bad too, because I was about to leave Michelle just so I could take that chick out to dinner.
Tonight the City of Victoria voted to give Archie a permit to operate his landing and to refund the $1500 in permit costs. While the family has some expenses to meet for the permit conditions, any donor who would like their donation refunded should write to Sue Leizinger at 16010 Excelsior Blvd, Minnetonka, MN 55345-5408. We are very grateful for your support and for your friendship. We hope to have the launch reopened in a couple of weeks and would love to see you at the lake.
We are so glad to hear that things worked out in the end. I hope to make it there sometime this year to meet Archie and do some fishing. My fear is now you might have to start taking reservations! 
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