More on Minneapolis – restrictions….

  • Grouse_Dog
    The Shores of Lake Harriet
    Posts: 2043
    #1277804

    Park leaders in Minneapolis have imposed new restrictions on boat traffic on city lakes, a drastic effort to prevent the spread of invasive species that surprised anglers and conservation leaders.

    The Minneapolis Park and Recreation Board unanimously approved an emergency resolution Wednesday that will require boats entering its lakes to be inspected, chaining off boat launches during weekday afternoons and other times when inspectors aren’t present.

    The new rules go beyond state law — which doesn’t require boat checks unless an inspector is there — making it the most stringent such measure by a Minnesota city.

    “We’re concerned about the loss of access and that we might end up with different restrictions across the state depending on who owns it,” said Steve Hirsch, director of the Minnesota Department of Natural Resources’ ecological and water resources division. “We need to be consistent.”

    He said the DNR hasn’t determined if the city’s steps are legal. “We wish that they would’ve consulted us before that action,” he said.

    The Park Board counters that to combat invasive species, they have to target boaters before they launch into lakes. By the DNR’s count this week, 20 percent of boaters are violating invasive species laws this year– up from 18 percent last year.

    The Park Board was going to assemble a task force, but “we just felt it couldn’t wait,” said Debra Pilger, the board’s director of environmental, equipment and volunteer services. “We needed to do something now.”

    Pilger said the new rules, which were approved by the board’s attorney, are only in effect this year. A task force will decide actions for after this year.

    “This is really a stopgap measure for us,” she said. “The DNR can’t do it alone.”

    It’s part of ramped-up measures statewide to protect Minnesota’s treasured lakes by the DNR, lake associations and cities. In Minneapolis, Lake Hiawatha and Minnehaha Creek already have zebra mussels, Pilger said — three of the more than 40 lakes and rivers in Minnesota with the fingernail-sized nuisance.

    “We’re not White Bear Lake, we’re not Lake Minnetonka,” Pilger said. “We don’t have the boat traffic. We’re in a unique position that we might be able to protect our lakes longer.”

    Minneapolis is hiring seven inspectors to add to a staff of up to 20 at boat launches at Lake Calhoun, Lake Harriet and Lake Nokomis.

    From July 13 to Sept. 30, they’ll guard entrances from 6 to 10 a.m. and 5 to 9 p.m. Monday through Thursday as well as 6 a.m. to 9 p.m. Friday, Saturday and Sunday. Outside of those hours, boaters caught entering a launch could get a civil citation or fine.

    Canoes or kayaks that don’t need a boat launch can enter the lakes without inspection.

    The new rules are disappointing to frequent anglers like Larry Peterson, 46, of Hopkins, who fishes Minneapolis lakes six days a week.

    “I think it’s a snap reaction to what’s happening,” he said about the spread of invasive species, pulling up his boat after fishing for muskies on Lake Calhoun on Thursday. “I hate to see restrictions. … I’ll have to make adjustments.”

    While anglers want to protect natural resources, he said they should have been consulted before the new rules.

    Since 2010, the Park Board has increased its defense against invasive species, moving all harvesting of milfoil to city-owned equipment to ensure it was not contaminated by outside lakes and now, shutting down Theodore Wirth Lake’s sole public boat launch. The extra inspections, additional staff time, education, new gates and signs this year will cost $100,000, taken from the Park Board’s reserves.

    “We’re not closing these lakes down,” Pilger said. “We are maintaining access. We just feel it’s important to have boats inspected before then.”

    washburn
    Aitkin Mn
    Posts: 185
    #1077989

    Wow that makes loads of sense!

    audemp
    Wi
    Posts: 721
    #1077994

    HIPPIE NAZIS!!!!

    Like I been saying for years “green is the new red”

    Mike W
    MN/Anoka/Ham lake
    Posts: 13310
    #1078005

    “We’re not closing these lakes down,” Pilger said. “We are maintaining access. We just feel it’s important to have boats inspected before then.”

    Not shutting the accesses down? How is putting a chain across them not shutting them down? I feel for the folks that fish those lakes and have to go threw this. Whats next? Maybe some barbed wire fences around those lakes and spot lights. This sure could of been handled a lot better.

    sandmannd
    Posts: 928
    #1078012

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    “We’re not closing these lakes down,” Pilger said. “We are maintaining access. We just feel it’s important to have boats inspected before then.”

    Not shutting the accesses down? How is putting a chain across them not shutting them down? I feel for the folks that fish those lakes and have to go threw this. Whats next? Maybe some barbed wire fences around those lakes and spot lights. This sure could of been handled a lot better.


    Exactly, this is about as backwards as you can get. If you are still allowing kayaks and such what’s he point? I don’t think it’s legal to shut them down between 10 AM and 5 PM during the week. That’s seven hours people won’t be able to use lakes. That’s a third of the day and half of the daylight hours. I hope everyone who voted this bill in will get voted out soon.

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    #1078017

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    That’s seven hours people won’t be able to use lakes.


    That’s not true. You can fish those 7 hours, but it is all or nothing.

    Grouse_Dog
    The Shores of Lake Harriet
    Posts: 2043
    #1078018

    Mike

    I could not agree with you more. I am on the phone with the DNR and the Park Board this AM.

    I just don’t understand the rationale for Open/Closed access during the week.

    I think they must blow a horn at 9:45 AM and you have to be off at 10AM ….

    Appears they don’t understand the liability issues around someone being stuck on the water – after the access is closed. I am curious as to how that is to be handled.

    Very odd.

    More to follow….

    Dog

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    #1078022

    Oh great Grouse. Your grousing is going to cause them to close them 24/7.

    AllenW
    Mpls, MN
    Posts: 2895
    #1078040

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    Oh great Grouse. Your grousing is going to cause them to close them 24/7.


    I doubt he can cause anymore insanity than what the city comes up with.

    You know the movie dumb and dumber was taken from the escapades of the city officials right?

    Al

    mossydan
    Cedar Rapids, Iowa
    Posts: 7727
    #1078042

    Thats the way I see it, too complicated to enjoy myself. If I had a cabin on a lake or river it would be diffrent but to just come and fish I have my reservations. We have a couple invasive species down here and the DNR just simply asks you to take care of your boat with a sign at the landing, no inforcement with an inspector and its on the honor system. I know theres alot more people who live up there but that in itself only shows its a matter of time, if its going to happen via. boats or wildlife its going to happen, I think this is the most important thing. If its going to happen, its going to happen no matter whats being done, just an outsiders wiew.

    Chuck Melcher
    SE Wisconsin, Racine County
    Posts: 1966
    #1051023

    Glad I live in Wisconsin….and feel for everyone dealing with the extreme reactions of a few, really concerning they have the ability to do this. I can say that even though I practice all the same safe practices, I won’t be making any more trips to MN to fish.

    Stupid part is by their own statements, they understand they are stopping anything… just delaying the inevitable.

    “We’re not White Bear Lake, we’re not Lake Minnetonka,” Pilger said. “We don’t have the boat traffic. We’re in a unique position that we might be able to protect our lakes longer.”

    Protect our lakes longer….. not forever, or stop it, just delay, and at what cost. Talk about a group of tree huggers given way too much power.

    Grouse_Dog
    The Shores of Lake Harriet
    Posts: 2043
    #1051026

    Guys –

    After some thoughts on the subject, this am….

    There is some upside for us fisherman to all this mayhem on my City Lakes…..It reminds me if fishing on Rainy Lake – Canadian side from the US side.

    I used to complain that I had to buy a RABC, license, Outdoors Card, can’t use live bait, can’t drink beer, limits are restrictive, need to have canadian boat safety kit, etc. What I have found – that fishing is fantastic due to the fact that nobody wants to put up with the BS.

    It will be the same on the Minneapolis Lakes…

    I still like the fact that there are no Jet Skis, etc. In the city – it is a peaceful place to fish. Now, it is going to get complicated this year….

    There is upside…

    carroll58
    Twin Cities, USA
    Posts: 2094
    #1078090

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    Guys –

    After some thoughts on the subject, this am….
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    Now, it is going to get complicated this year….

    There is upside…


    The other upside,

    Ya can tell the FW you have to stay out until 5pm because the City won’t let you off the lake

    joshbjork
    Center of Iowa
    Posts: 727
    #1078094

    I’ve been reading this drama.

    You all are reading about this ahead of time.

    Just imagine when people don’t see these news tidbits and go on vacation and show up with their lake chained off. People will be irate.

    Imagine a nice holiday weekend where boats are lined up early so they can get in through the chained gate only to have the gate gaurd oversleep. I think there might be pitchforks in hand.

    Or it is October and the places realize their budget is being shot so they change the hours.

    I’ve heard of something similar at lake Solomon but I thought they pressure washed under your boat there.

    suzuki
    Woodbury, Mn
    Posts: 18700
    #1078121

    Quote:


    I’ve been reading this drama.

    You all are reading about this ahead of time.

    Just imagine when people don’t see these news tidbits and go on vacation and show up with their lake chained off. People will be irate.

    Imagine a nice holiday weekend where boats are lined up early so they can get in through the chained gate only to have the gate gaurd oversleep. I think there might be pitchforks in hand.

    Or it is October and the places realize their budget is being shot so they change the hours.

    I’ve heard of something similar at lake Solomon but I thought they pressure washed under your boat there.


    Exactly. This is why so many of us are getting riled up. And someday it could easily affect any one of our favorite lakes.

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