Minneapolis to require all boat inspections

  • whittsend
    Posts: 2389
    #1077887

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    Question: (I’ll submit to Mpls Park Board and reply later.)
    If I launch at 6am on Calhoun, How will I get off at 2-3pm since the access will be chained off from 10am-5pm?

    Will I have to sit out there until 5pm to load up and go home?

    Will we not be able to launch on Sundays?
    How about all the Sail boat races?

    I guess no more Milk Carton Boat Races?


    What about this… The kid they hire for the summer job of “inspecting” the boats gets tired of actually doing “work” and decides to chain up and leave a couple of hours early ’cause “its just too hot to sit out here today”.. (or his tuna salad sandwich sits out a little longer than intended and he has a “salmonella emergency” and locks up the lake. — Well, he can’t just leave a public access lake actually open to the public, no can he???)… Or the inspector thinks the lake is vacant, but he fails to see the last truck/trailer parked down the road.. Closes shop early that night cause he doesn’t see anyone out there… Or,… Well, you get the idea… Someone is stuck all day or all night, no fault of their own..

    Totally asinine, but what you’d expect from big government…

    Hunting4Walleyes
    MN
    Posts: 1552
    #1077900

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    People keep saying that this can’t be done legally. Well, look at Christmas Lake. Something has to be done here. For realz.


    I guess what I was trying to say was these ordinances will be challenged in court by a sportmans group. Not saying they are outside the law now. All it will take is one group to step forward and challenge the city of Shorewood or Minneapolis. The biggest thing to challenge is what JJ mentioned. Our hunting and fishing rights are protected by our states constitution.

    I see a reoccurring trend here. The city of Shorewood owns the launch. The city of Minneapolis owns all the launches in town. This is going to continue though out the metro area with all the city owned ramps. There might be a smart city that knows better but once the wave starts it continues to roll.

    I predict this will be challenged in court sooner than later.

    josh a
    Posts: 588
    #1077905

    I wonder if AIs is really the motivating factor here or if its really just a few people with money using this as a way to keep people away from “their” lakes. My prediction on this is that the city, dnr, and lake associations will keep creating and enforcing completely unneccessary rules and regulations to the point that it will really urine some people off. This group of otherwise normal people will be angered to the point that they will say urine on minneapolis and all of its lakes and spread zeebs intentionally. Lets be honest, anybody who wanted to could very easily sneak them past the half wits {inspectors}

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    #1077918

    Quote:


    People keep saying that this can’t be done legally. Well, look at Christmas Lake. Something has to be done here. For realz.



    That’s what I was thinking, I just never said it.

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    #1077920

    Quote:


    I wonder if AIs is really the motivating factor here or if its really just a few people with money using this as a way to keep people away from “their” lakes. My prediction on this is that the city, dnr, and lake associations will keep creating and enforcing completely unneccessary rules and regulations to the point that it will really urine some people off. This group of otherwise normal people will be angered to the point that they will say urine on minneapolis and all of its lakes and spread zeebs intentionally. Lets be honest, anybody who wanted to could very easily sneak them past the half wits {inspectors}


    I don’t think this is the case in Minneapolis. They already don’t allow outboard motors and most (probably all) lakes don’t have private shoreline property.

    As to the constitutionality of it…

    Quote:


    Sec. 12. PRESERVATION OF HUNTING AND FISHING. Hunting and fishing and the taking of game and fish are a valued part of our heritage that shall be forever preserved for the people and shall be managed by law and regulation for the public good.




    Ah, I love it when they throw in that very ambiguous phrase.

    I wouldn’t bring up the constitution if I was representing people against this. It is very easily argued that this is for the “public good”. And they are not denying fishing in the lake, they are regulating it. And they can make the case that stopping invasives (insert laughter here) is preserving the heritage and enjoyment.

    Like I said in another thread, we are very close to the tipping point. At some point we will stop sitting on our hands and make it known that these unneeded infringements are taking away from the sport.

    josh a
    Posts: 588
    #1077924

    This ticks me off and i’ve never fished any minneapolis lake and probably never will. I have to imagine the time for people to stop sitting on there hands is getting pretty close. Thanks for posting the line from the constitution, i had no doubt they could do this legally. Legal doesn’t make it right though

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    #1077927

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    Legal doesn’t make it right though



    You got that right.

    desperado
    Posts: 3010
    #1077933

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    Please remember that Law Enforcement is not the enemy here. It is the law MAKERS that need to be called out.
    DT


    No prob DT; we could easily change it from Law Enforcement to Law Enactment
    the acronym still works and, you’re right, it would be a good bit more accurate

    Hunting4Walleyes
    MN
    Posts: 1552
    #1077963

    Quote:


    Ah, I love it when they throw in that very ambiguous phrase.

    I wouldn’t bring up the constitution if I was representing people against this. It is very easily argued that this is for the “public good”. And they are not denying fishing in the lake, they are regulating it. And they can make the case that stopping invasives (insert laughter here) is preserving the heritage and enjoyment.

    Like I said in another thread, we are very close to the tipping point. At some point we will stop sitting on our hands and make it known that these unneeded infringements are taking away from the sport.


    I just don’t know how this is going to end without the courts being involved. I used the constitution as an example. You could use several angles. One thing for sure is that this is not going away. I don’t have much faith in our legislators/governor either. What did they manage last year. Keep fireworks illegal and ramrodded a stadium down the peoples throat. Yep, they have my upmost confidence.

    I am off to bed. Have to get up early and head to Mille Lacs to drag some lindy rigs through the Zebra Mussels.

    phigs
    Twin Cities, MN
    Posts: 1046
    #1077967

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    People keep saying that this can’t be done legally. Well, look at Christmas Lake. Something has to be done here. For realz.


    the easiest, quickest, and most efficient way to solve this (and I am not joking) is to go to an infected metro lake two to three times a week, and fill up a couple buckets worth of milfoil and zeebs, and go dump it in the “clean” lakes, under the cover of darkness.

    you would never get caught, and it would become infected. this would stop all of this nonsense right now!

    these lakes are all connected one way or another, whether its by actual connecting streams, or the fisherman and animals that share the different waters.

    they will get infected eventually. if we can just speed up the process, we will not find ourselves facing locked gates at most of the popular metro lakes.

    How about an IDO “bucket dump” Get Together? I’ll organize it…

    bzzsaw
    Hudson, Wi
    Posts: 3486
    #1078024

    Quote:


    the easiest, quickest, and most efficient way to solve this (and I am not joking) is to go to an infected metro lake two to three times a week, and fill up a couple buckets worth of milfoil and zeebs, and go dump it in the “clean” lakes, under the cover of darkness.

    you would never get caught, and it would become infected. this would stop all of this nonsense right now!

    these lakes are all connected one way or another, whether its by actual connecting streams, or the fisherman and animals that share the different waters.

    they will get infected eventually. if we can just speed up the process, we will not find ourselves facing locked gates at most of the popular metro lakes.

    How about an IDO “bucket dump” Get Together? I’ll organize it…


    Really? Good luck with that.

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    #1078035

    I made the same statement Phigs just made back when the Christmas Lake issue came up. It was tongue-in-cheek and I wasn’t serious, but you get so frustrated that it comes to this.

    How much is the fine for dumping water in a lake? How about we set up a fund at a bank where donations are made. When there is enough money to cover the fine, I’ll take a mason jar down to one of these lakes and video tape me dumping it in the lake. Then hopefully hopefully chaos ensues as these lake associations scramble for money to do testing to see if zeebs were dumped and/or they pay to have a company come in and spray the area like they do with intake valves.

    Then maybe we can really make a point about how idiotic, knee-jerk and hysteric these regulations and inspections are.

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    #1078045

    I’ll bring the patchouli, guitar and BO.

    Its a joke. I know G, not all 99%ers smell. Just 99% of them.

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