is the river shut down or not..

  • smoke grub
    Posts: 251
    #1277596

    Hi guys. I went to the LaCrosse Tribune site, and I can’t find out if the river is shut down or not. Does anyone have the definitive answer. because, I can’t seem to find it.

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59996
    #1074047

    The ramps might be closed but the river is not shut down.
    It might be “no wake”.

    But it’s still flowing South.

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59996
    #1074049

    All the Locks down that way are running as well. Fast water though.

    729 L/D 5a 060612 U 653.21 -0.02 198.0 A59 0.00 PC 0 0 5 2 34
    0600 L 652.74 -0.04 W69
    6,June,2012. Lock is open to navigation.
    Flow is 88,700 Gates are out of the water.

    714 L/D 6 060612 U 646.02 NA 198.0 A76 0.00 PC 1 0 2 1 0
    0600 L 645.31 NA W70
    Date: 6/06/2012 0600 hours

    CURRENT FLOW:
    – 93800 cfs
    – Out draft conditions at 45,000 cfs
    – Lock 6 cannot pull a loaded spike with a starboard notch when
    flows exceed 59,000 cfs
    – All roller and tainter gates out of water

    703 L/D 7 060612 U 638.92 +0.03 199.8 A77 0.00 FA 0 0 4 5 0
    0600 W70
    04 June 2012 0600 hours

    CURRENT FLOW:91400 cfs

    Dedicated locking times for Everstart Bass Tournament fisherman
    21, 22, and 23 June 2012:

    AM start 0700 close 0730
    PM start 1330 close 1400

    679 L/D 8 060612 U 630.07 -0.25 198.0 A77 0.00 FA 0 0 2 3 0
    0600 L 629.45 +0.32 W70
    0600 hours 06/06/2012 -The current flow is 95375. Outdraft conditions exist at 40000, accumulated 0.00 in. of precipitation in the last 24hrs. Have a good day.

    open river

    Dedicated locking times for Everstart Bass Tournament
    June 21, 22, and 23, 2012:

    AM gates open 0645 close 0715
    PM gates open 1330 close 1400

    Jake_A
    Posts: 569
    #1074081

    I thought the river flowed north Bk after all, its at your door

    Do you think things will improve by the weekend?

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59996
    #1074164

    She’s dropping fast.

    Looks like under 10′ at Everts on Friday/Saturday which means we’ll be able to drive back to the campers and there will be “back forty” parking with the use of at least two of the up stream ramps.

    With the dropping water there will be less debris, but as always on the river, be careful out there!

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59996
    #1074166

    PS the above graph is auto updating. It will change as the forecast changes.

    kooty
    Keymaster
    1 hour 15 mins to the Pond
    Posts: 18101
    #1074169

    It would be cool to have some time lapse photos of the how fast the water came up and is receding.

    Jake_A
    Posts: 569
    #1074209

    That would be cool to see. I know there are a few cottonwood trees at Evert’s that could support a camera I remember seeing some in the past, but I do not remember where or when they were from…

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59996
    #1074212

    I’ve been trying to teach Steve how to run the camera on his new phone. I think he’s still playing with Google Goggles.

    johnlaqua
    Pool 3/Pool 4
    Posts: 92
    #1074269

    star tribune yesterday said the st croix was gonna fall 4ft this week alone, i dont think they seemed to care about the miss tho

    mhines
    Winona, MN
    Posts: 20
    #1074357

    Quote:


    All the Locks down that way are running as well. Fast water though.

    729 L/D 5a 060612 U 653.21 -0.02 198.0 A59 0.00 PC 0 0 5 2 34
    0600 L 652.74 -0.04 W69
    6,June,2012. Lock is open to navigation.
    Flow is 88,700 Gates are out of the water.

    714 L/D 6 060612 U 646.02 NA 198.0 A76 0.00 PC 1 0 2 1 0
    0600 L 645.31 NA W70
    Date: 6/06/2012 0600 hours

    CURRENT FLOW:
    – 93800 cfs
    – Out draft conditions at 45,000 cfs
    – Lock 6 cannot pull a loaded spike with a starboard notch when
    flows exceed 59,000 cfs
    – All roller and tainter gates out of water

    703 L/D 7 060612 U 638.92 +0.03 199.8 A77 0.00 FA 0 0 4 5 0
    0600 W70
    04 June 2012 0600 hours

    CURRENT FLOW:91400 cfs

    Dedicated locking times for Everstart Bass Tournament fisherman
    21, 22, and 23 June 2012:

    AM start 0700 close 0730
    PM start 1330 close 1400

    679 L/D 8 060612 U 630.07 -0.25 198.0 A77 0.00 FA 0 0 2 3 0
    0600 L 629.45 +0.32 W70
    0600 hours 06/06/2012 -The current flow is 95375. Outdraft conditions exist at 40000, accumulated 0.00 in. of precipitation in the last 24hrs. Have a good day.

    open river

    Dedicated locking times for Everstart Bass Tournament
    June 21, 22, and 23, 2012:

    AM gates open 0645 close 0715
    PM gates open 1330 close 1400


    Which site did you get this info from??? Id like to bookmark that one

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59996
    #1074369

    You’re so welcome.

    It’s a new site the Corps came out with about a month or so ago.

    smoke grub
    Posts: 251
    #1074397

    is there a chart like that for LaCrosse. because, WoW, it was wonderful to see a color chart that you could actually understand.

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59996
    #1074408

    Grub, if you follow this link Link<<

    it will take you to the Red Wing Forecast. Scroll down and click on “Next Down Stream Gauge”. That will get you to where you want to go.

    mhines
    Winona, MN
    Posts: 20
    #1074624

    What does “Out draft conditions at 45,000 cfs” mean??

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59996
    #1074631

    Watch for the big red circle at the beginning of the lock walls. Those indicate an out draft as well.

    What this means is, the river currents above the dam are strong enough to hit the lock wall or shore line an push the vessel away from the wall or toward the dam.

    It’s a warning to tows that because of these currents their vessel maybe hard to control.

    This is one of the reasons they extended the lock wall at #3 1000 feet and did major dredging above the dam last year.

    If you’ve ever seen the tug Littl’ Charlie heading toward the lock, he’s on the way to push the tow sideways or against the wall to keep it from drifting towards the dam.

    Maybe Damman or the others that work at the locks can explain it better, but that’s the just of it.

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59996
    #1074633

    Lock and Dam 3 is a navigation dam and lock on the Mississippi River
    approximately 6 miles upstream from Red Wing, Minnesota. The locks
    position on a bend in the river makes downstream navigation difficult due
    to an outdraft current that tends to sweep towboats and barges away
    from the lock entrance and toward the gated part of the dam. This
    outdraft current has resulted in 11 accidents since 1968.

    In 2011, Edward Kraemer and Sons and Hoffman Construction were
    contracted to repair and upgrade Lock and Dam 3. The navigation
    improvements include an 862-foot long guide wall extension, dredging
    and placement of 150,000 cubic yards of material and construction of a
    closure dike to reduce the outdraft conditions near the guide wall. A
    series of embankments, spillways and control structures were also
    constructed and riprap erosion protection was placed along the
    river embankments.

    The $70,950,000 project is scheduled to be completed in late 2012.

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