400 Fish over limit

  • Mike W
    MN/Anoka/Ham lake
    Posts: 13290
    #1072086

    Here is a list of License revocations from the MN DNR. Feel free to look at the last names and tell us who is the biggest violators.

    I am glad they caught him and hope he is fined appropriately and this gets a lot of air time so that it will deter others from doing the same.

    DNR License Revocations.

    mfreeman451
    Posts: 543
    #1072089

    Don’t mind if I do..

    big game:

    BOUNVONGXAY SOMSAK NOY WARROAD MN 06-Aug-1977 18-Apr-2011 18-Apr-2016
    LAO YEE LENG ST PAUL MN 30-May-1975 03-Dec-2009 03-Dec-2012
    LOR VANG FRIDLEY MN 12-Aug-1964 22-Nov-2010 22-Nov-2013
    VANG CHOU ROLLINGSTONE MN 04-Nov-1982 05-Jan-2011 05-Jan-2014
    VANG CHOUA XA MINNEAPOLIS MN 01-Feb-1952 31-Jan-2011 31-Jan-2014
    VANG MAI YIA MINNEAPOLIS MN 06-Jun-1958 06-Jan-2012 06-Jan-2015
    VANG PAO ST PAUL MN 01-Dec-1966 01-Mar-2011 01-Mar-2014
    VUE YEE ISANTI MN 02-Mar-1973 19-Nov-2010 19-Nov-2013
    XIONG LEE ST PAUL MN 06-Dec-1956 01-Mar-2011 01-Mar-2014

    small game:

    BOUNVONGXAY SOMSAK NOY WARROAD MN 06-Aug-1977 18-Apr-2011 18-Apr-2016
    XIONG MOUA SONG ST PAUL MN 20-Dec-1966 25-Nov-2009 25-Nov-2012

    fishing:

    LUANGSANITH SISOUK ST BONIFACIUS MN 10-Sep-1962 07-Jul-2011 07-Jul-2012
    QUACH CU VAN ST CLOUD MN 09-Oct-1979 09-Aug-2011 09-Aug-2012
    SOUVANNAPHONG TOUY ST. CLOUD MN 01-Mar-1981 13-Dec-2011 13-Dec-2012

    trapping:

    BOUNVONGXAY SOMSAK NOY WARROAD MN 06-Aug-1977 18-Apr-2011 18-Apr-2016
    XIONG MOUA SONG ST PAUL MN 20-Dec-1966 25-Nov-2009 25-Nov-2012

    Some guys are on all 4 because they must have really screwed up, but overall the majority of the violators were everything but Asian. This list may not be complete but I think I found most of the obvious ones.

    .m

    Quote:


    Here is a list of License revocations from the MN DNR. Feel free to look at the last names and tell us who is the biggest violators.

    I am glad they caught him and hope he is fined appropriately and this gets a lot of air time so that it will deter others from doing the same.

    DNR License Revocations.


    chirp
    Rochester
    Posts: 1471
    #1072091

    Can’t read the license.

    Grouse_Dog
    The Shores of Lake Harriet
    Posts: 2043
    #1072097

    I always thought the Asian community was particularly good at math – must just be a stereotype…..

    They seem to be pretty good at catching – not so good at baseball, though…..

    You guys just don’t like Asians. I know it….

    Dog

    Mike W
    MN/Anoka/Ham lake
    Posts: 13290
    #1072107

    Quote:


    Don’t mind if I do..

    big game:

    BOUNVONGXAY SOMSAK NOY WARROAD MN 06-Aug-1977 18-Apr-2011 18-Apr-2016
    LAO YEE LENG ST PAUL MN 30-May-1975 03-Dec-2009 03-Dec-2012
    LOR VANG FRIDLEY MN 12-Aug-1964 22-Nov-2010 22-Nov-2013
    VANG CHOU ROLLINGSTONE MN 04-Nov-1982 05-Jan-2011 05-Jan-2014
    VANG CHOUA XA MINNEAPOLIS MN 01-Feb-1952 31-Jan-2011 31-Jan-2014
    VANG MAI YIA MINNEAPOLIS MN 06-Jun-1958 06-Jan-2012 06-Jan-2015
    VANG PAO ST PAUL MN 01-Dec-1966 01-Mar-2011 01-Mar-2014
    VUE YEE ISANTI MN 02-Mar-1973 19-Nov-2010 19-Nov-2013
    XIONG LEE ST PAUL MN 06-Dec-1956 01-Mar-2011 01-Mar-2014

    small game:

    BOUNVONGXAY SOMSAK NOY WARROAD MN 06-Aug-1977 18-Apr-2011 18-Apr-2016
    XIONG MOUA SONG ST PAUL MN 20-Dec-1966 25-Nov-2009 25-Nov-2012

    fishing:

    LUANGSANITH SISOUK ST BONIFACIUS MN 10-Sep-1962 07-Jul-2011 07-Jul-2012
    QUACH CU VAN ST CLOUD MN 09-Oct-1979 09-Aug-2011 09-Aug-2012
    SOUVANNAPHONG TOUY ST. CLOUD MN 01-Mar-1981 13-Dec-2011 13-Dec-2012

    trapping:

    BOUNVONGXAY SOMSAK NOY WARROAD MN 06-Aug-1977 18-Apr-2011 18-Apr-2016
    XIONG MOUA SONG ST PAUL MN 20-Dec-1966 25-Nov-2009 25-Nov-2012

    Some guys are on all 4 because they must have really screwed up, but overall the majority of the violators were everything but Asian. This list may not be complete but I think I found most of the obvious ones.

    .m

    Quote:


    Here is a list of License revocations from the MN DNR. Feel free to look at the last names and tell us who is the biggest violators.

    I am glad they caught him and hope he is fined appropriately and this gets a lot of air time so that it will deter others from doing the same.

    DNR License Revocations.



    So out of roughly 430 license revocations you found 14 that have Asian looking last names?

    Mike W
    MN/Anoka/Ham lake
    Posts: 13290
    #1072108

    Thats Funny Dog.

    stuwest
    Elmwood, WI
    Posts: 2254
    #1072112

    I think we are in big trouble.
    it was mostly germans and norwegians on that list…

    josh a
    Posts: 588
    #1072113

    There was a post on here a while back about the dnr doing some sort of crack down on LOW. If I remember right they caught all kinds of people over the limit. My guess is most were white guys. Having said that there is a culture among some asains to never let a fish go, regardless of size, season, or amount in posession. i hope that doesn’t come off as racist profiling, its just the truth

    muskie-tim
    Rush City MN
    Posts: 838
    #1072119

    Sounds like enough fish to fed the veterans at the VA hospital. Make the scum bag clean and cook the fish to feed the people that may have saved his butt.

    Was up on Big Sandy one time when the DNR busted a couple white guys from Illinois that were way over their limit. Someone called TIP to bust them.

    Watched DNR go talk to a guy on East Rush Lake last weekend that was fishing with two lines. looked like they just gave him a stern warning. I will be calling TIP next time I see him with two lines in the water, he has done this before last weekend.

    Not sure about anyone else but, I certainly don’t understand why people can’t live within the rules. Is it really that hard?

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    #1072125

    Looking at the list for fishing, it is hard to throw stones in a glass aquarium.

    Tanner Zych??? I swear I am not related. Must be a Zych from the bad side of Poland.

    A little history lesson on a macro scale for those who don’t know. The Americans and French governments, as well as others, promised to relocate the Hmong refugees from Laos and Vietnam in exchange for them helping us fight the viet cong.

    hanson
    Posts: 728
    #1072132

    Quote:


    Put him at various boat landings picking weeds off trailers so people are not spreading invasive plants. Also pick off any zebras.



    I really think that is a great punishment. Put them in the jumpsuit “criminal” clothes as well while at “work”.

    kidfish
    Posts: 225
    #1072136

    I apologize for those I have offended by bringing this up. I agree that many people break the laws, I was just stating that several of the gross over limit cases that I can remember involved SE Asians. I do remember the priest from Wisconsin and the others from IA. They were wrong too.
    It just bothers me that years ago our hunting and fishing regs used to have a stipulation that said “English language required”. Then our DNR dropped that and hired 2 Cambodian or Laotian officers to help the wardens that couldn’t communicate with certain individuals. My ancestors had to adopt the English language when they arrived.
    I am a veteran and my father served two tours in Vietnam in his 20 years. Does that mean we get special privilages???
    I also have been bow hunting in the fall and had several Asians (I could hear them talking) walk through the woods a hundred yards away while shooting at every bird that was flying- Blue Jays and all- with .22’s. Needless to say, the bullets were flying over my head more than once. Safety wasn’t a concern, nor were the illegal song birds they were targeting.
    Sorry, but I had to vent a little more…

    chirp
    Rochester
    Posts: 1471
    #1072134

    Have had that happen while hunting in the Whitewater area. No matter what it was,if it moved it got shot.

    hanson
    Posts: 728
    #1072135

    I’ll be honest with you guys, I really think fines for our game & fish violations are excessive compared to fines for motor vehicle violations.

    And here’s my rationale… you run a stop light, you can potentially kill or severely injure a human life obeying the law (entering intersection on green). You keep a bunch of fish over your limit?

    If I’m not mistaken, an extra line citation is about the same as running a stoplight or stop sign? Are those really equal crimes?

    This guy with 400 fish is facing steeper penalties than a DWI conviction.

    Now I totally agree with ya’ll about throwing the book at the guy. I just wanna livin’ the conversation up by comparing fish & game crimes vs other crimes in society. What you think?

    85lund
    Menomonie, WI
    Posts: 2317
    #1072138

    So he will be fishing without a license until he gets caught next time. $1000 per fish over your limit might help some people understand

    moestavern10
    St. Paul, MN
    Posts: 35
    #1072142

    Quote:


    I apologize for those I have offended by bringing this up. I agree that many people break the laws, I was just stating that several of the gross over limit cases that I can remember involved SE Asians. I do remember the priest from Wisconsin and the others from IA. They were wrong too.
    It just bothers me that years ago our hunting and fishing regs used to have a stipulation that said “English language required”. Then our DNR dropped that and hired 2 Cambodian or Laotian officers to help the wardens that couldn’t communicate with certain individuals. My ancestors had to adopt the English language when they arrived.
    I am a veteran and my father served two tours in Vietnam in his 20 years. Does that mean we get special privilages???
    I also have been bow hunting in the fall and had several Asians (I could hear them talking) walk through the woods a hundred yards away while shooting at every bird that was flying- Blue Jays and all- with .22’s. Needless to say, the bullets were flying over my head more than once. Safety wasn’t a concern, nor were the illegal song birds they were targeting.
    Sorry, but I had to vent a little more…


    A poacher is a poacher… They all have the same mentality. Yellow, white, black or red it doesn’t matter. You should Check the list of violators on the DNR site again… Plenty of non-SE Asian names on there. Stop the profiling and you won’t be so butt hurt every time you hear an Asian name come up some where…

    dr-death
    Phillips, WI
    Posts: 155
    #1072143

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    Whenever I see some ridiculous number like this, I really wonder if they plan to utilize the fish at some point, or if it is just a mental sickness that drives them to keep everything they catch.

    When you have 300 fish in your chest freezer, and you are still fishing for more keepers, you got problems that taking your license away for a couple years won’t cure..


    Thing is, they keep everything they pull out of the water and they eat everything they take home. It’s East vs. West and they don’t have a clue about western civilization’s game and fish laws, nor do they give a rat’s [censored]. It’s almost like subsistance hunting & gathering for them yet. Don’t preach to me about political correctness, it’s the way it is. I’m not defending their actions by any means. No amount of assimilation or education is going to change that. The fact remains, what’s wrong is wrong and the stiffer the penalty, the better………….

    wildfan
    Ogilvie Minnesota
    Posts: 598
    #1072144

    I just went back and read the story again, the guy is 39, which means he was probably born in the U.S.
    If he wasn’t then he came here at a very young age.
    Which ever it is,he knew it was wrong!

    johnlaqua
    Pool 3/Pool 4
    Posts: 92
    #1072145

    he should be forced to EAT our lakes and rivers clean of zebs, milfoil, and hydrilla!

    moestavern10
    St. Paul, MN
    Posts: 35
    #1072149

    Quote:


    Quote:


    Whenever I see some ridiculous number like this, I really wonder if they plan to utilize the fish at some point, or if it is just a mental sickness that drives them to keep everything they catch.

    When you have 300 fish in your chest freezer, and you are still fishing for more keepers, you got problems that taking your license away for a couple years won’t cure..


    Thing is, they keep everything they pull out of the water and they eat everything they take home. It’s East vs. West and they don’t have a clue about western civilization’s game and fish laws, nor do they give a rat’s [censored]. It’s almost like subsistance hunting & gathering for them yet. Don’t preach to me about political correctness, it’s the way it is. I’m not defending their actions by any means. No amount of assimilation or education is going to change that. The fact remains, what’s wrong is wrong and the stiffer the penalty, the better………….


    My father came to this country from a country with no set limits on hunting or fishing. Growing up, I remember while hunting and fishing we kept within our limits. Releasing smaller fish. Keeping bigger fish, even some trophy sized eyes.

    One thing that I’ve learned from forums like IDO is that releasing a Trophy eye CAN impact the fishery. Letting a deer walk instead of taking it will improve your chances of getting a trophy in future years. My dad couldn’t teach me the ethics to fishing/hunting because he didn’t have any. So, I had to teach myself through watching videos and reading forums/articles. It makes me happy to hear my dad tell me about the deers that he passed on that he wouldn’t of passed on 10 years ago. I have always passed on deers as a kid, maybe from watching all those team Realtree videos?? lol… So, I have helped my dad to create some sort of ethics while hunting. This is why I’m pursuing a career in being a C.O. To try and help the community. I was born and raised in MN. Sites like these and the videos on here could help change the ethics that people have. Up to a couple years ago before i stumbled onto this site, if i caught a legal eye it would be in the bucket. Now its different, i have satisfactory in releasing the fish that i catch.

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59988
    #1072150

    Quote:


    Growing up, I remember while hunting and fishing we kept within our limits. Releasing smaller fish. Keeping bigger fish, even some trophy sized eyes.

    One thing that I’ve learned from forums like IDO is that releasing a Trophy eye CAN impact the fishery.


    Quote:


    Sites like these and the videos on here could help change the ethics that people have. Up to a couple years ago before i stumbled onto this site, if i caught a legal eye it would be in the bucket.


    Same story here except my dad was born in the US. Grew up during the depression out on the farm.

    The bigger the better, the more the merrier. All his brothers were the same way although most of them changed somewhat as they became older.

    We practiced C&C here before Ido. Catch and Cook…or Catch and Give Away.

    It WAS Ido and it’s members that taught me what catch and release does and this info was transferred to Dad.

    German here.

    I’m guessing most of us don’t have to look too far back into our past to see changes taking place in our ethics.

    As Mo said, “wrong is still wrong” no matter what the color.

    Jesse Krook
    Y.M.H.
    Posts: 6403
    #1072155

    Quote:


    Here is a list of License revocations from the MN DNR. Feel free to look at the last names and tell us who is the biggest violators.

    DNR License Revocations.


    wow

    big_g
    Isle, MN
    Posts: 22206
    #1072168

    Quote:


    Quote:


    Don’t mind if I do..

    big game:

    BOUNVONGXAY SOMSAK NOY WARROAD MN 06-Aug-1977 18-Apr-2011 18-Apr-2016
    LAO YEE LENG ST PAUL MN 30-May-1975 03-Dec-2009 03-Dec-2012
    LOR VANG FRIDLEY MN 12-Aug-1964 22-Nov-2010 22-Nov-2013
    VANG CHOU ROLLINGSTONE MN 04-Nov-1982 05-Jan-2011 05-Jan-2014
    VANG CHOUA XA MINNEAPOLIS MN 01-Feb-1952 31-Jan-2011 31-Jan-2014
    VANG MAI YIA MINNEAPOLIS MN 06-Jun-1958 06-Jan-2012 06-Jan-2015
    VANG PAO ST PAUL MN 01-Dec-1966 01-Mar-2011 01-Mar-2014
    VUE YEE ISANTI MN 02-Mar-1973 19-Nov-2010 19-Nov-2013
    XIONG LEE ST PAUL MN 06-Dec-1956 01-Mar-2011 01-Mar-2014

    small game:

    BOUNVONGXAY SOMSAK NOY WARROAD MN 06-Aug-1977 18-Apr-2011 18-Apr-2016
    XIONG MOUA SONG ST PAUL MN 20-Dec-1966 25-Nov-2009 25-Nov-2012

    fishing:

    LUANGSANITH SISOUK ST BONIFACIUS MN 10-Sep-1962 07-Jul-2011 07-Jul-2012
    QUACH CU VAN ST CLOUD MN 09-Oct-1979 09-Aug-2011 09-Aug-2012
    SOUVANNAPHONG TOUY ST. CLOUD MN 01-Mar-1981 13-Dec-2011 13-Dec-2012

    trapping:

    BOUNVONGXAY SOMSAK NOY WARROAD MN 06-Aug-1977 18-Apr-2011 18-Apr-2016
    XIONG MOUA SONG ST PAUL MN 20-Dec-1966 25-Nov-2009 25-Nov-2012

    Some guys are on all 4 because they must have really screwed up, but overall the majority of the violators were everything but Asian. This list may not be complete but I think I found most of the obvious ones.

    .m

    Quote:


    Here is a list of License revocations from the MN DNR. Feel free to look at the last names and tell us who is the biggest violators.

    I am glad they caught him and hope he is fined appropriately and this gets a lot of air time so that it will deter others from doing the same.

    DNR License Revocations.



    So out of roughly 430 license revocations you found 14 that have Asian looking last names?


    There is actually 15 names listed..(some more than once) so about 3.4% of the entire list… Can you imagine if 3.4% of every race was on that list ? At what point does knowing an issue exists with a certain people/race, not become profiling ? I could have guessed what the last name would look like before opening that story yesterday… does that make me a profiler or a psychic ? Seems when I read about GROSS overages… it’s more so a certain race, over others. There are real stroies about how people are decimating entire woods of tree rats. I call it glutenous

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    #1072173

    According to the 2010 census, they make up about 3.4% of the population of Minnesota, so those numbers are about right. Now one could break down that group a little more to let the numbers support the stereotype, but the list proves that the issue is not one segment of societies problem.

    DaveB
    Inver Grove Heights MN
    Posts: 4443
    #1072182

    My grandma grew up poor in the south. She never understood us releasing “keeper” sized fish. About 15 year ago, I was out with her and caught a nice 24″ walleye. We looked at it, I said that I want to let it go, we set it in the water and saw the big tail swish and the fish disappeared. I remember saying, “see grandma, wasnt that beautiful?” I dont think I changed her mind, but I know that she understood and didnt question our decisions about releasing big fish anymore.

    Strangely, on a lake with bigger fish where you only get 1-2 a night if you are lucky, we found a school of 13″ fish and took 5 home for dinner that night.

    TheFamousGrouse
    St. Paul, MN
    Posts: 11403
    #1072215

    Quote:


    I think we are in big trouble.
    it was mostly germans and norwegians on that list…


    Well that’s hardly a surprise. Everyone knows what those people are like.

    In thinking about it, should those people even be allowed to fish at all in this state? I mean, especially the Norwegians? We’re talking about a race of people who boil fish (a suspect practice on its own) in a caustic solution containing hazardous materials and then eat it! And they LIKE it!

    Brothers of the angle, THAT is some sick, twisted behavior.

    Ban the Norwegians! Ban the Norwegians! Save our fish from an evil death by lye!

    Grouse

    DaveB
    Inver Grove Heights MN
    Posts: 4443
    #1072216

    As a proud Norwegian, you can pry my musky lutefisk from my cold 100% lead jighead fishing hands.

    TheFamousGrouse
    St. Paul, MN
    Posts: 11403
    #1072240

    Quote:


    As a proud Norwegian, you can pry my musky lutefisk from my cold 100% lead jighead fishing hands.


    Muskie lutefisk? I’m surprised. I’d heard that you people preferred to make your toxic lye-infused fish soup using a blend of ground up trophy-sized walleye, endangered sturgeon, and imported bighead carp.

    I hadn’t heard that you people use muskie as well. It’s probably just that you only kill the ones greater then 50 inches, right?

    Deport the Norwegians! Save our fishing! Deport the Fishmongers!

    Grouse

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59988
    #1072244

    Quote:


    Deport the Norwegians! Save our fishing! Deport the Fishmongers!


    Funny, but so true.

    biggill
    East Bethel, MN
    Posts: 11321
    #1072261

    Quote:


    Quote:


    Growing up, I remember while hunting and fishing we kept within our limits. Releasing smaller fish. Keeping bigger fish, even some trophy sized eyes.
    One thing that I’ve learned from forums like IDO is that releasing a Trophy eye CAN impact the fishery.


    Quote:


    Sites like these and the videos on here could help change the ethics that people have. Up to a couple years ago before i stumbled onto this site, if i caught a legal eye it would be in the bucket.


    Same story here except my dad was born in the US. Grew up during the depression out on the farm.

    The bigger the better, the more the merrier. All his brothers were the same way although most of them changed somewhat as they became older.

    We practiced C&C here before Ido. Catch and Cook…or Catch and Give Away.

    It WAS Ido and it’s members that taught me what catch and release does and this info was transferred to Dad.

    German here.

    I’m guessing most of us don’t have to look too far back into our past to see changes taking place in our ethics.

    As Mo said, “wrong is still wrong” no matter what the color.


    Forgive me for not reading thru the whole thread but I just want to add something.

    I think the consistent reminders to call TIP and be responsible anglers ourselves has made an impact.

    I, myself have broken a few of the rules in the past but refuse to do so now because I realize it is the same as stealing from others or others stealing from me. IDO has done a great job of hammering home the importance of being a good role model and if we disagree with some laws, use the proper methods to seek change.

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