Slow Death hooks……

  • chappy
    Hastings, MN
    Posts: 4854
    #1277097

    I’ve tried and tried with these hooks and just cannot get my line to quit twisting! I’ve tried multiple size swivels up the line a couple feet and it still twists! Last time out it cost me the whole spool of line on the rod!Anyone have success with them not twisting? I know it can be done, So don’t come with the “Mine worked fine” BS! THANKS

    kruger
    Metro,mn
    Posts: 593
    #1064719

    I dont have much expierence with slow death, but have you tried using braid above a swivel and mono or fluoro under it? Ive never really had to worry about twist using this set up.

    James Holst
    Keymaster
    SE Minnesota
    Posts: 18926
    #1064724

    Are you fishing these on a 3 way? IF you are, for the life of me I can’t see how you could twist up an entire spool of line using slow death hooks. It would mean you would have to be spinning the entire 3 way swivel… weight and all. More info, please. I’m sure we can offer a solution once we know how you’re rigging them.

    Jesse Krook
    Y.M.H.
    Posts: 6403
    #1064727

    What lb. test line are you using ?

    How are you hooking the crawler ?

    chappy
    Hastings, MN
    Posts: 4854
    #1064728

    I was trying to long line it on 8# Mono. Appeatently I can’t do that?And Jesse..Right thru the nose. 8# Mono to a swivel then 8# mono to the hook.

    jerry b
    western WI
    Posts: 1506
    #1064741

    The only suggestion I can come up with is to experiment with various swivels, I do know there is a heck of a difference in quality with them. Otherwise, periodically take all the stuff off your line, hand feed it over the side of the boat while you’re on the move. After a bit there’ll be enough out that it’ll feed itself. Let out maybe 100-150 yds and then reel it back in. That’ll take the twist out of your line and you’ll be good to go again jerr

    Fife
    Ramsey, MN
    Posts: 4044
    #1064773

    When I fished the FLW as a co-angler, I noticed a couple of guys used the same swivels on all of their slow-death rigs. They are barrel swivels, but have 3 barrels. I bought some at Gander Mountain a few years ago and use them anytime I tie on a slow death hook. I usually only fish it on a 3-way rig, but I have never had a problem with line twists.

    John Schultz
    Inactive
    Portage, WI
    Posts: 3309
    #1064796

    I use slow death a ton. I typically run them off a bottom bouncer. You absolutely have to use a high quality swivel for them to spin easily. I have not run them on a 3 way, but I would assume the same. I also like to run them on a fairly stiff fluorocarbon with one or two beads in front of the hook.

    I have never tried hooking a crawler right through the nose though. I thread the crawler on the hook as shown on the package.

    wes_bergemann
    Crystal, MN
    Posts: 458
    #1064797

    I have never long lined slow death, but how fast were you going when doing this?

    Would going to a stiffer line like 12-14# going to the swivel and then a lighter leader like 8# flouro help?

    I don’t run spinner harnesses but I would assume that whatever tricks people that run spinners use would apply here as well.

    smackem
    Iowa Marshall Co
    Posts: 956
    #1064806

    Quote:


    I use slow death a ton. I typically run them off a bottom bouncer. You absolutely have to use a high quality swivel for them to spin easily. I have not run them on a 3 way, but I would assume the same. I also like to run them on a fairly stiff fluorocarbon with one or two beads in front of the hook.

    I have never tried hooking a crawler right through the nose though. I thread the crawler on the hook as shown on the package.


    Yup bottom bouncer is how I use them too

    Palerider77
    Posts: 630
    #1064817

    A bottom bouncer or on a 3 way here as well. .9 to 1.5 mph. Works like magic.

    #1064837

    Run em’ on a Bottom Bouncer or 3 Way…Make sure you use a high quality swivel or you will have a mess.

    I use SPro swivels when running slow death and have not had any problems since switching to them.

    timmy
    Posts: 1960
    #1064842

    How do you slow-death fans compare this presentation to a spinner? I am curious. It seems to me this would be attractive to fish that are just a step under the activity level of fish that would attack a spinner. Is the slo-death better than a spinner very often?

    T

    James Holst
    Keymaster
    SE Minnesota
    Posts: 18926
    #1064844

    Quote:


    I was trying to long line it on 8# Mono. Appeatently I can’t do that?And Jesse..Right thru the nose. 8# Mono to a swivel then 8# mono to the hook.


    As the other guys pointed out, Slow Death is typically fished behind a bouncer or 3 – way. Regardless, you’ll still need to use a quality swivel. Try the Sampo brand. They’re a bit more money than some of the other brands but they work like a charm for me in high line twist applications.

    John Schultz
    Inactive
    Portage, WI
    Posts: 3309
    #1064855

    Quote:


    How do you slow-death fans compare this presentation to a spinner? I am curious. It seems to me this would be attractive to fish that are just a step under the activity level of fish that would attack a spinner. Is the slo-death better than a spinner very often?

    T


    Depends on the day for me, but I usually do better with slow death than spinners. Spinners are far superior to slow death in catching sheephead though.

    Joel Ballweg
    Sauk City, Wisconsin
    Posts: 3295
    #1064866

    I think it’s different on each body of water but here on Lake Wisconsin, slow death out produces crawler harnesses by a long shot.
    I’ve basically quit using crawler harnesses several years ago.

    chappy
    Hastings, MN
    Posts: 4854
    #1064922

    Thanks all. Sounds like long lining it is pretty much out of the question.I’ll have to give the bottom bouncer or 3 way a try.

    walleyebuster5
    Central MN
    Posts: 3916
    #1064939

    Looks like you guys figured out the twisting thing..

    Is there any other way to use a slow death hook that you guys have had luck with? Like,,,other than a cralwer?

    Joel Ballweg
    Sauk City, Wisconsin
    Posts: 3295
    #1064968

    I haven’t found anything else.

    John Schultz
    Inactive
    Portage, WI
    Posts: 3309
    #1064981

    I think any type of plastic would be too stiff to get the right action. I’ve never tried anything other than crawlers. Those seem to work pretty good.

    chris-tuckner
    Hastings/Isle MN
    Posts: 12318
    #1065067

    Level wind reel, 10# Crystal to a three way to a SD on a leader of 6-8# flouro. No issues here!

    tony_apisa
    E. Moline Illinois along the Rock River
    Posts: 1180
    #1065153

    Fishing Heidecke Lake the past few weeks with SD hooks with a few beads and a smile spinner has put some nice fish in the boat. Crawler have out fished leeches. Adding a spinner has not changed the action of the SD. hook at all.

    CJ
    Posts: 85
    #1394460

    I’m going to bump this thread up and ask another question. What slow death hook size have you guys been successful with when using this rig?

    Palerider77
    Posts: 630
    #1394463

    #2 is what I use, usually just a bare hook and a crawler.

    John Schultz
    Inactive
    Portage, WI
    Posts: 3309
    #1394471

    #2 hook with either a single bead or double bead. I know some guys run smile blades in front as well but I have not had good success getting them to run well. May try again this year or may just forget that setup. Hard to argue with how well they work just with a bead.

    flatfish
    Rochester, MN
    Posts: 2105
    #1394486

    Quote:


    #2 hook with either a single bead or double bead. Hard to argue with how well they work just with a bead.


    Major Ditto to what John said here…I love the single bead. For me it’s almost always a glow bead. And your boat speed does make a difference. Look over the side of the boat at the action. To fast, for me they don’t work.

    Gary Sanders
    Lake Wisconsin
    Posts: 434
    #1394716

    Quote:


    Looks like you guys figured out the twisting thing..

    Is there any other way to use a slow death hook that you guys have had luck with? Like,,,other than a cralwer?


    I have had success many times when their is an aggressive bite, with using Gulp Alive instead of a half crawler. Additionally, I have had some success running a smile blade ahead of the bait and on multiple occasions after the bite slowed, picked up additional fish by running extra beads and a spinner blade ahead of the slow death hook. I run them exclusively on bottom bounces and as previously stated, a ball bearing swivel cannot be stressed enough.

    The slow death system does typically work best when kept to the simplest form of a hook, a bead a BB swivel and a bottom bouncer, but don’t be afraid to try something different – I don’t think fish get clued into on what is popular or read the manual on how you are supposed to fish it. If it works…it works

    ______________
    Inactive
    MN - 55082
    Posts: 1644
    #1394723

    I fish slow death hooks a bunch and 95% of the time I rig them as I would fishing a minnow or leech on a simple lindy setup. I frequently drop my line and let the fish run with it a bit when it’s picked up too. I find it to be effective over a wide range of speeds, as long as it spins it’s typically a quick death technique in my book.

    nhamm
    Inactive
    Robbinsdale
    Posts: 7348
    #1394728

    Add in with a bullet sinker hovering above vegetation.

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