Do you think farmers should pay road tax on their fuel? When you see all this big equipment on the road and all the costume people with their crap hauling. Don’t they do road damage? Shouldn’t they pay? 
Working in thier fields,,,no. Driving grain to the storage facilities,,,yes. Driving thier equipment from field to field, no matter how far apart they are, even 30 miles,,,no. Household vehicles,,,yes.
Sure, and then they can pass that cost on to you as the consumer to cover their additional expenses.
Nope.
I have actually been wondering why more guides dont run off road fuel in their boats. Haven’t looked into pricing though. Maybe a few hundred gallons is not enough of a saving to deal with storage and such?
I think that is a very slippery slope to address. Increased costs will only result in increased costs to your table…and where do you draw the line? We pay “road tax” for the snowmobiles, ATVs, lawnmowers, log splitters, chainsaws, boats, generators, gas lanterns,…..all of which are not used on the road; millions of gallons are purchased. Arguments can be made each way, but what is really in the best interest for all?
I’m sure the availibility of off-road gasoline is not nearly that of off-road diesel…or are guides in MN using diesel-powered outboards?
There’s a way to get a tax refund for tax spent on fuel for off-road uses….Your ride-on lawnmower,for example,and our boat motors.
As for farmers using the red fuel for on-road use?…I’m not a big fan of pointing one’s finger at anyone else and saying: “They are not paying their “fair share”.”
No. The “small” farmer milk producer needs a break.
If a road can’t handle farm equipment, there must be something wrong with the mix.
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Do you think farmers should pay road tax on their fuel? When you see all this big equipment on the road and all the costume people with their crap hauling. Don’t they do road damage? Shouldn’t they pay?
The farmers that I know absolutely run taxed fuel in their on-road vehicles like grain trucks, pickups, etc. Because if you don’t and you get caught it’s going to be a major, major issue.
Anyone hauling grain on-road has to stop for the same weigh stations that every other trucker has to stop for. And in farm country during the harvest the cops are pulling grain trucks over left and right, you can be assured that they WILL check your tanks for red fuel. I’ve seen them doing it near Marshall.
I don’t believe that farm equipment causes any road damage. Keep in mind, the weight distribution of those big, wide tires on tractors and more often now farmers are running tracked vehicles to distribute the weight even more.
Grouse
Of all the billions of dollars wasted every year we are going to worry about a few million from the farmers? (I assume we are talking nationally)
Yes, we have to start someplace. How about we start on foreign aid, work our way over to the military, swing into the welfare department. Then if we have time we can take a glance at the people who feed us. 
I understand your point although I think you are trying to swat the flea on the elephant. 
Bicycles should! Especially if they ride on the road using their own special lanes. Make them pay for an annual license tab to cover the costs.
-J.
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I’m sure the availibility of off-road gasoline is not nearly that of off-road diesel…or are guides in MN using diesel-powered outboards?
There’s a way to get a tax refund for tax spent on fuel for off-road uses….Your ride-on lawnmower,for example,and our boat motors.
As for farmers using the red fuel for on-road use?…I’m not a big fan of pointing one’s finger at anyone else and saying: “They are not paying their “fair share”.”
You’re right, If you itemize and keep records, you can deduct the Fuel Taxes for Off Road Use (Boats, Lawn Mowers, etc) from your Income Taxes.
A few years back one of the Union Guys from AVR told me they got caught using OFF-ROAD (Dyed) Fuel (meant for their front end loaders and other yard equipment) in some of their Ready Mix Trucks, they got slapped with a fine and investigated all of their trucks, etc. 
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Bicycles should! Especially if they ride on the road using their own special lanes. Make them pay for an annual license tab to cover the costs.
-J.
I only use sidewalks. 
May as well charge people shoe tax, too, since they have cross walks 
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