Al Lindner You Tube at the capitol yesterday

Al Lindner You Tube at the capitol yesterday

I for one can honestly say I have no problem with the increase they are talking about. However the one area i think that the state could really afford to increase fees on is the out of state licenses. but all in all the resident licenses are due to go up

Your not alone on non-resident fees, but there is a tourism issue. The resort industry feels (and maybe likely so) that anglers and their families coming to MN contribute quite a bit to the economy and keeping the angling license fees lower makes their experiences here better

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I for one can honestly say I have no problem with the increase they are talking about. However the one area i think that the state could really afford to increase fees on is the out of state licenses. but all in all the resident licenses are due to go up

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When I first read your comment I was kind of like , but after looking up what a WI non-res is ($55) I would agree with you that they could charge the non-res a bit more. Upping it from $39.50 to $50 would not stop me from making my 5+ trips a year to MN for great walleye fishing.

Since IL anglers (boats)are in mostly all infested waters, maybe we should be charging them more?

$200. to bring an IL boat into MN…whether it’s put into the water or not. After all, I’ll get a ticket if my drain plug isn’t pulled.

Disclaimer: Sorry IL guys. Nothing personal.

Glad I got that lifetime license before I moved out of state.

As I stated your not alone in your thinking. When I go to Texas or Florida, I’m not usually thinking about the lic fee, just about the possibility of catching some quality fish. But the resort industry has the ear of the legislature, and I suspect that they have more say about seasons, limits and AIS then maybe they should have. But to be an effective advocate for Sportfishing, one needs to work within the existing power structure, learn how to fall on a sword and when to push issues. Timing is everything.

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When I first read your comment I was kind of like , but after looking up what a WI non-res is ($55) I would agree with you that they could charge the non-res a bit more. Upping it from $39.50 to $50 would not stop me from making my 5+ trips a year to MN for great walleye fishing.

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I get my WI out of state license every year and if they charged me an additional $5, it wouldn’t really bother me. In the grand scheme of things, if people are coming here for a vacation, an extra couple of bucks for a license isn’t even going to be a drop in the bucket compared to their other expenses like gas, lodging, food, beer, etc.

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But to be an effective advocate for Sportfishing, one needs to work within the existing power structure, learn how to fall on a sword and when to push issues. Timing is everything.

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Does the WHOLE STATE NEED TO FALL ON A SWORD?

Dang, I told myself I was done posting on this.

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Since IL anglers (boats)are in mostly all infested waters, maybe we should be charging them more?

$200. to bring an IL boat into MN…whether it’s put into the water or not. After all, I’ll get a ticket if my drain plug isn’t pulled.

Disclaimer: Sorry IL guys. Nothing personal.

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Oh!Oh! I see the Lacy act implemented here. Felony on your record and $10,000 fine and or jail time for transporting AIS across state lines.

I kid, but dumber things have been enforced under the Lacy act.

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Your not alone on non-resident fees, but there is a tourism issue. The resort industry feels (and maybe likely so) that anglers and their families coming to MN contribute quite a bit to the economy and keeping the angling license fees lower makes their experiences here better

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So a family is not going to come to MN because a husband/wife fishing license goes up $10-$15? Kids under 16 fish for free. Don’t see how this would hurt the tourism industry. N/R licenses should cost whatever they cost in the state you are coming from. I also like the: “pick ten days” to fish and they can’t be on openers or holidays. But we’ll let you split them into two five day times.

I am from IA but buy a MN lic. for my wife and me every year. For me purchasing hunting/fish lic is a great way to give back. I am sure there is a point where I would say TOO MUCH, but not sure where that is. I DO tell my MN family NOT to come to IA right now and buy a hunting lic. for pheasant. Just not worth it at this time – but it will come back.

I go to URL for 10 days. I have to buy a family license so my 8yo daughter can keep a limit. I spend $2000 in gas, food, lodging, etc. The $60 license isn’t a big deal. I take home 8 fish. Let’s see, at #1@ fileted. So, at $250 per pound, the Governor wants MORE???

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I for one can honestly say I have no problem with the increase they are talking about. However the one area i think that the state could really afford to increase fees on is the out of state licenses. but all in all the resident licenses are due to go up

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Very much agree , Non-Resident fees should go up too, here is a simple comparisson of resident vs Non-resident fees for ALL surrounding States and Canadian’s:

Weblinks
Resident Non-Resident
http://gf.nd.gov/licenses/resident.html http://gf.nd.gov/licenses/nonres.html
http://www.dnr.state.mn.us/licenses/fishing/index.html?type=fishing
http://www.iowadnr.gov/Fishing/FishingLicensesLaws/AdditionalRegulations/FishingLicenses.aspx
http://dnr.wi.gov/org/caer/cs/restypes.asp http://dnr.wi.gov/org/caer/cs/nonrestypes.asp
http://gfp.sd.gov/licenses/general-hunt-fish/license-list.aspx
http://www.mnr.gov.on.ca/en/Business/LetsFish/2ColumnSubPage/STEL02_165326.html http://www.mnr.gov.on.ca/en/Business/LetsFish/2ColumnSubPage/STEL02_165336.html
http://www.gov.mb.ca/conservation/pdf/07_10_2011full_app.pdf

Minnesota hasn’t had an increase in 12 years, that’s pretty darn good. An increase in license cost will not keep me from purchasing a non-res license. It sounds like it has been a long time coming.

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I go to URL for 10 days. I have to buy a family license so my 8yo daughter can keep a limit. I spend $2000 in gas, food, lodging, etc. The $60 license isn’t a big deal. I take home 8 fish. Let’s see, at #1@ fileted. So, at $250 per pound, the Governor wants MORE???

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If that is the way you think, you need to take up another sport. That is the excuse poachers with overly engrossed bag limits use to justify their over harvest.

I don’t have any problem with increasing both resident and non-resident fees.

And I think they should both go up by the same %, I don’t buy into this “screw the tourists, they’re the ones with the money” thinking that so many states and especially Canada has adopted.

I would advocate for a new category of licenses to be created. There should be a US non-resident and then a special license just for Canadians. The price of the Canadian license should be exactly what that province changes US residents. If that province does not allow non-residents to fish and hunt without a guide, then they should be banned from buying any fish and game license in Minnesota. If they don’t like it, write to their Canadian MP to complain.

Grouse

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I go to URL for 10 days. I have to buy a family license so my 8yo daughter can keep a limit. I spend $2000 in gas, food, lodging, etc. The $60 license isn’t a big deal. I take home 8 fish. Let’s see, at #1@ fileted. So, at $250 per pound, the Governor wants MORE???

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I hope you are not allowing your daughter, who is on the family license, to keep her own limit then you keep your limit. Your daughters fish count toward your limit unless you buy her a separate individual license. I have been on more expensive trips, but yes Mn should go another $5 per license for both resident and nonresident.

Goll, Chomps, you are just WRONG.
From the MN DNR web site selling licenses:
“Angling – family (nr)

Description:

Valid for nonresident husband and wife (legally married as recognized by MN law) and children under age 16. Allows children under age 16 to possess their own limit of fish. (Single parents may also choose this license to include children under 16). See Fishing Regulations. “

One of the guys at Four Seasons was just telling me about this.

A non resident 16 years and under didn’t need to buy a license to fish, but if they wanted to keep fish, then they would need a license.

I didn’t look it up though. I don’t think I have a non resident child.

someplace i thought it was the same for resident children…

Could be Stu.

interesting, I would have to call to verify, but maybe it has changed in the past two years. Resident children under 16 will not need to be licensed and can posess thier own limit.

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One of the guys at Four Seasons was just telling me about this.

A non resident 16 years and under didn’t need to buy a license to fish, but if they wanted to keep fish, then they would need a license.

I didn’t look it up though. I don’t think I have a non resident child.

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Regardless of whether they can keep a limit or not, they’re good for another 2 lines in the water, another 2 tip ups, or another 2 rattle reels. Only 1 line for that silly open water fishing, though.

I need to talk to my wife and convince her to expand our fishing party, er, I mean, family.

Nonresidents
All nonresidents age 16 and older are required to have an appropriate fishing
license while angling. Nonresidents
under age 16 do not need a license if
the parent
or guardian
is licensed.
Children of an adult who has a Minnesota
nonresident family license may possess their own limit of fish. However, if the
adult has an individual
license, the child’s fish are included
in the adult’s limit.
Nonresidents under age 16 may purchase
a nonresident youth license and possess
their own limit of fish.

right out of the booklet, so a family license is the way to go, and thinking back the last time I went back and forth between an individual vs a family license was 5 years ago, and the wording of the under 16 year old’s posession was included in the adults.

I also like the: “pick ten days” to fish and they can’t be on openers or holidays. But we’ll let you split them into two five day times.

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I live in WI, 5 miles across the MN/WI border and you expect me to “pick 10 days” ha- – t’ain’t happenin Bubba. jerr

Could someone explain or post a link to the “fish 10 days” proposal.

For Mn. residents sake I hope the extra money from fees goes back into the DNR and not into a “General Fund” where politicians can use some of the money to fund non fishing / hunting projects.

God has spoken, and the masses need to cough up the coin…ya ok…sure, but would god make the DNR financially responsible while he’s at it???

Then I’d be for a increase, not till then.

It ain’t about whether they need it, it’s what their going to do with it that bothers me.

Al

Stay afloat.

East Metro Case Study…

Case Study: East Metro Area Fisheries
Stocking fish in an east metro lake.
Stocking fish in an east metro lake.

East Metro Area Fisheries Manager Jerry Johnson isn’t the kind of guy who likes to say no – especially when it comes to matters affecting good angling and healthy habitat. But more and more, Johnson is finding himself in the position of the naysayer.

Last spring, for instance, several lake associations contacted him to request DNR fisheries assessments in the wake of winterkills on their small local lakes. With barebones staffing levels, Johnson didn’t have the extra capacity to divert anyone from essential work on other higher priority fisheries with greater public access and angling potential.

Last fall, as the result of being short-handed on top of added duties monitoring for Asian carp in the Mississippi and St. Croix Rivers, Johnson’s crew was unable to get to all their fish rearing ponds, leading to less stocking than they had planned.

Rising fuel costs have prevented the east metro team from taking advantage of a bonus stocking opportunity made available when northerns and perch attempting to escape dwindling oxygen levels in federal wetlands north of Mille Lacs are netted by Aitkin fisheries staff; it simply costs too much to send the trucks up there and back.

“So far we’ve been able to keep providing folks in the east metro area a wide range of quality angling opportunities, but we’re barely hanging in there,” Johnson says. “If the funding situation isn’t addressed soon, it won’t be long before core work suffers and anglers start seeing the impacts. Unhappy customers mean fewer people will buy licenses, and pretty soon you’re in a vicious downward cycle.”

What we do…

The Minnesota DNR’s East Metro Fisheries Area includes portions of the Mississippi and St. Croix Rivers, as well as White Bear Lake and numerous other smaller basins, providing some of the best fishing in a major urban area anywhere in the country.

* Manage the fisheries of 73 lakes, 96 miles of major rivers (Mississippi & St. Croix), and 50 miles of moderate size streams (Rum & Vermillion).
* Manage four lakes and nine streams for trout to provide ample coldwater angling opportunities.
* Stock seven water bodies with pure strain muskellunge; stock seven lakes with tiger muskie.
* Stock 39 lakes with walleye to maintain fishery in metro basins with high angling pressure.
* Produce and stock about 6,000 lbs. of walleye fingerlings per year.
* Produce 20,000,000 walleye fry per year.
* Produce 350,000 pure strain muskellunge.
* Produce 60,000 hybrid muskellunge.
* Monitor over 20 fishing tournaments per year.
* Conduct annual VHS sampling on Pool 2.
* Collect fish for contaminant testing to assist Dept. of Health and Pollution Control Agency in determining safe consumption advisories.
* Stock, manage and maintain State Fair fish displays to encourage interest in fishing, habitat and clean water among Minnesotans statewide.
* Conduct shoreline restoration projects to improve aquatic habitat.
* Conduct research including: lake sturgeon tagging study, catfish tagging and population estimate study, bluegill harvest and population study on small stocked ponds.
* Provide outreach to underserved, minority and urban communities to increase participation in angling within a changing demographic.
* Manage FiN (Fishing in the Neighborhood) program, which aims to get more kids and families out fishing by providing cloFiN stocks and manages 66 small lakes and ponds around the metro region.
* FiN staff participated in nearly 200 community outreach and education events during 2010 and 2011.
* FiN partnered with local government and fishing groups to construct one fishing pier in 2011; two fishing piers and and two rock shorefishing sites on local lakes in 2010.
* Led monitoring efforts for Asian carp in Mississippi and St. Croix Rivers.

I see they conveniently left off the annual convention which amounts to happy hour one evening at a bar, buy your own drinks and food.

I thank God that the license fees go to the Fish and Game fund and the DNR is kind of on its own island, except the fact the need approval by the legislature for everything. I hate government and it’s waste as much as most, but I’ll stand by the DNR.

Now we just need a VSDR…Vikings Stadium Department of Resources.

Just a joke. Don’t let it side track this thread. PM me with hate mail if you must.