Howling for Wolves?

  • biggill
    East Bethel, MN
    Posts: 11321
    #1276652

    Who are these people? Has anyone seen the commercials trying to stop the current bill to allow limited wolf hunting?

    The false facts they are trying to push are absolutely ridiculous! I have no personal interest in whether or not the population of wolves is far too high or too low, but I do know that a limited wolf harvest won’t adversely affect their population.

    Sorry for the misspell on the original title. Dang fruit phone!

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #1055818

    But the pups are being poached!!

    I took a double take when I saw it the other day. Forgot to check it out.

    deertracker
    Posts: 9231
    #1055833

    Why didn’t they show pictures like this?

    outdoor_guy
    Norway,Michigan (In DA UP)
    Posts: 165
    #1055844

    I would venture to Guess that the driving force of people supporting this DO NOT live in wolf Country and have no idea what reality is.
    Typical Viewpoint is: “I have my mind made up, do not confuse me with the facts”

    eyekatcher
    Lakeville, MN
    Posts: 964
    #1055852

    I have a question about one of the facts in the commercial.

    They state that half of the wolf pups starve to death.
    Isn’t this starving to death indicative of overpopulation?
    And therefore provide incentive for population control to ensure survival of the species.

    big_g
    Isle, MN
    Posts: 22418
    #1055858

    Quote:


    I have a question about one of the facts in the commercial.

    They state that half of the wolf pups starve to death.
    Isn’t this starving to death indicative of overpopulation?
    And therefore provide incentive for population control to ensure survival of the species.


    Mine thoughts exactly… I seen the commercial last night and thought… “do they really want MORE wolves losing half their pups, cause there is not enough food ?” but was too lazy to write a post at the time… I would love to ask some howling idiot their logic on that fact …??? Man, they should just go to a basketball game

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    #1055866

    X3 when I heard the starvation thing. I don’t understand why you need a 5 year moratorium. When the wolves were on the endangered list there was no studying going on?

    From their website mission page. An excerpt from a letter written by a MN National Audubon Society member.

    Quote:


    The 2001 legislature passed a law based on the DNR Wolf Management Plan developed as a result of the Roundtable that specified no general public take of wolves (ie hunting or trapping) for a five year period following delisting. In addition, this thorough management plan calls for: population monitoring that includes determination of human-caused mortality, population management that calls for a continued expansion of wolf populations (establishing a minimum population of 1600, but no maximum), a comprehensive wolf damage management program (including state-administered certified predator controllers), strong enforcement of the law with fines (up to $3000) and restitution for illegal killing (up to $2000), information and educational programs, and at least five dedicated DNR wolf program staff: two in program direction and research, and three in enforcement. Audubon members believe that this balanced plan should be implemented in full, for five years, prior to the commencement of a general public take of wolves.


    You’d think if there was actually a law passed, someone would have filed a lawsuit many months ago.

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #1055871

    If the National Audubon Society is for it, I’m against it.

    (fish passageway fiasco)

    glenn57
    cold spring mn
    Posts: 11753
    #1055886

    plus i read somewhere that if the hunting season passes the tribes are going to file a federal lawsuit to stop it. if there a sovergn nation how can they file a lawsuit outside there little nation??????

    Brian Hoffies
    Land of 10,000 taxes, potholes & the politically correct.
    Posts: 6843
    #1055888

    Just wait until Chris Granrud gets TV in the Falls. He will be all over this!

    shew
    East Bethel, Minnesota
    Posts: 696
    #1055910

    Maybe it’s the Indian tribes putting these on tv. A smoke and mirrors thing so we are distracted while netting season is going on.

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    #1055925

    Oh yeah, I keep forgetting that the wolf season is not law until the F&G bill is signed off on. Then the court papers start getting filed.

    big_g
    Isle, MN
    Posts: 22418
    #1056176

    me 2

    tbrooks11
    Posts: 605
    #1056178

    im down in southern minnesota so i dont know what kind of problems landowners face up where there is a population up north. Wolves are really cool animals, i would like to see them around down here. What do they do that make all you guys wanna get rid of them?
    Just curious! i dont wanna start some riot, just would like to know

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    #1056183

    Nobody wants to get rid of them. We just want them managed like all big game. If man (and cars) are hunting their primary prey like deer, then they need to be managed too. Because during times when food gets scarce for them, that is when we will run into problems, not only for man, but for the wolves too. They will starve and also be susceptible to disease.

    kooty
    Keymaster
    1 hour 15 mins to the Pond
    Posts: 18101
    #1056189

    Exactly, no one is asking to exterminate the wolves. We simply want to maintain a healthy population.

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    #1056190

    Quote:


    me 2



    Me 3!

    Its funny how PETA types like to think of hunters as unintelligent, blood thirsty people. Yet, hunters are talking conservation. They make themselves look so unintelligent when they freaking paint the picture of a wolf being some loveable, cute little puppy.

    In one of my comments over there I asked them to please refrain from the personification of wolves. “…intelligent, social and sensitive creatures…”. Freaking makes me want to puke. And how exactly is a wolf sensitive?

    Me thinks this little non-profit is not going to get very far…unless organizations they friended like PETA get involved.

    Steve Plantz
    SE MN
    Posts: 12240
    #1056192

    Quote:


    Nobody wants to get rid of them. We just want them managed like all big game. If man (and cars) are hunting their primary prey like deer, then they need to be managed too. Because during times when food gets scarce for them, that is when we will run into problems, not only for man, but for the wolves too. They will starve and also be susceptible to disease.


    Mike I realy like this reply hope you do not mind I posted it on FB.

    big_g
    Isle, MN
    Posts: 22418
    #1056193

    Man is a hunter and a meat eater, period. No way around it, just like the wolf. We compete for the same food source, deer, cattle, moose etc… in order to have balance, there needs to be a season. Nobody wants to “get rid” of wolves (minus maybe a farmer that loses livestock every week to them) but that is the message that the howlers like to spread around….

    Besides…. who hasn’t heard the story about what happened to Little Red Riding Hood ????

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    #1056196

    Quote:


    Quote:


    Nobody wants to get rid of them. We just want them managed like all big game. If man (and cars) are hunting their primary prey like deer, then they need to be managed too. Because during times when food gets scarce for them, that is when we will run into problems, not only for man, but for the wolves too. They will starve and also be susceptible to disease.


    Mike I realy like this reply hope you do not mind I posted it on FB.




    No problem! I don’t expect any pictures or words I post on the internet to be “owned” by me, so to speak.

    So, you think that is how they envisioned their FB social marketing campaign going? Us IDOers have owned the conversation. Love to see them respond and not delete.

    chris-tuckner
    Hastings/Isle MN
    Posts: 12318
    #1056213

    Quote:


    Who are these people? Has anyone seen the commercials trying to stop the current bill to allow limited wolf hunting?

    The false facts they are trying to push are absolutely ridiculous! I have no personal interest in whether or not the population of wolves is far too high or too low, but I do know that a limited wolf harvest won’t adversely affect their population.

    Sorry for the misspell on the original title. Dang fruit phone!


    Absolutely! I would love to take some of these people to Fairbanks MN and see the deer and moose kills left be by wolves! These woods are almost devoid of anything with hooves now! I have heard nothing about trapping, have any of you? I have heard that there will be a set number of permits available. Right? Come out of the closet DNR and set the record straight please and shut these nare-do-wells up!

    Steve Plantz
    SE MN
    Posts: 12240
    #1056234

    Chris you should post this reply on there facebook page.

    Fife
    Ramsey, MN
    Posts: 4042
    #1056249

    Thanks for the link. Their facebook page has been very entertaining to read.

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    #1056337

    Help me out guys. I went to the Facebook page and clicked on recent posts by others so I could respond to the naive and misinformed comments being made. I guess I know now why people hate timelines on Facebook. I didn’t see all these comments before, nor do I know where they are on Howling For Wolves FB.

    deertracker
    Posts: 9231
    #1056351

    Do I have to have my own FB page to read their page? I haven’t signed up for FB yet and don’t really want to but would like to see their page. I’m waiting for FB to get realy popular then I might join…
    DT

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    #1056480

    I believe you do.

    1hl&sinker
    On the St.Croix
    Posts: 2501
    #1056488

    Quote:


    If man (and cars) are hunting their primary prey like deer, then they need to be managed too.


    Me and my dilexia

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