YES!!!!!!

CASTLE DOCTRINE PASSED THE SENATE!!!

Great! Now I can shoot people!!! Legally!!!

While I do agree with some of this, I don’t believe its something to celebrate.

Yep there is going to be riots and shoot outs in the streets just like last time.

NOT GOING TO HAPPEN!!!!!

I think it’s something to celebrate. If you haven’t seen the movie felon I recommend watching it. I know I wouldn’t want to end up in prison for defending my property and family

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I think it’s something to celebrate. If you haven’t seen the movie felon I recommend watching it. I know I wouldn’t want to end up in prison for defending my property and family

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While he still stits in jail. Alot of good this law does for him.

Under the current law, you still have the ability to defend your family, just not your property.

My main point is, either way this will have very little effect. A big deal will be made of it, but nothing much will come of it. Look at where we are with the conceal and carry. This hasn’t made the news in years. Even the WI conceal and carry made little news.

Wasn’t there also somethng in there about reciprocity with other states that also have a CC Law? WI residents need to apply for a non res CC permit with MN to carry across state line- -jerr

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My main point is, either way this will have very little effect. A big deal will be made of it, but nothing much will come of it. Look at where we are with the conceal and carry. This hasn’t made the news in years. Even the WI conceal and carry made little news.

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And those of us who support this change in our law also hope this goes quietly through the legal system into law. If you think we are making a big deal of this, try listening to the other side sometime. They squeal A LOT louder than we do. Luckily those of us with common sense and a strong belief in the 2nd ammendment are persistent.

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Under the current law, you still have the ability to defend your family, just not your property.

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Why do you feel I shouldn’t be able to defend my property? I have had property stolen,stuff that I earned.It made me feel like crap.

I really don’t know enough about it to comment on it beyond its simplest meaning, being able to shoot somebody to defend your property. I don’t appose this, I just don’t see that being able to shoot somebody as a reason to celebrate. I think doing so really gives fuel to the “other side”.

Does this specifically talk about the use of firearms? (I’m asking because I don’t know)

If not, I personally can’t see it as a win for the 2nd ammendment supporters. I’m assuming that it talks about deadly force.

Governor still needs to sign off on it, so we are not out of the woods on this yet. Male sure to flood his office with emails, phone calls and letters demanding he support our 2nd amendment rights, and sign this bill into law!!!!

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I really don’t know enough about it to comment on it beyond its simplest meaning, being able to shoot somebody to defend your property. I don’t appose this, I just don’t see that being able to shoot somebody as a reason to celebrate. I think doing so really gives fuel to the “other side”.

Does this specifically talk about the use of firearms? (I’m asking because I don’t know)

If not, I personally can’t see it as a win for the 2nd ammendment supporters. I’m assuming that it talks about deadly force.

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Read this thread, I posted all the info in it.

http://www.idofishing.com/forum/showflat.php/Number/1093710/fpart/1/stand-your-ground-bill-is-back

Just got home from finishing my CC Class. Certificate in hand and now off to the sheriffs office

As a profesional firefighter and EMT this makes me very nervous. We’re often called to residence for fire or EMS alarms and find the doors locked. Not knowing if someone is dying inside or if the house is on fire we usually force entry through a door or window. Now what???

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As a profesional firefighter and EMT this makes me very nervous. We’re often called to residence for fire or EMS alarms and find the doors locked. Not knowing if someone is dying inside or if the house is on fire we usually force entry through a door or window. Now what???

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now what? absolutely nothing changes. the threat of bodily harm still has to exist to be able to “meet force with equal or superior force”.

this does not allow people to just shoot at things that go bump in the night. you can and will still be charged with murder for something like that.

The big thing, is that we currently have a castle doctrine, but only when contained within the four walls of your home. this will extend the doctrine to any where you legally can be.

and it isn’t explicit about guns, it simply states “deadly force”, which means if you defend yourself with a 2×4, you are protected.

it really is a common sense law, and i believe 21 other states already have it.

we are not going to see blood running in the street, it simply is just another step to protect the victim from the criminal.

plus it offers other additions, such as no frivolous civil suits by the criminal’s family, no weapons confiscation during a time of declared emergency (Katrina is a perfect example, when they confiscated everyone’s firearms, and disarmed the law abiding citizens), extends permit to purchase to 5 years.

read up on the entire law, it really is good for us, and not a “shoot first bill” like the left would like us to believe.

remember, back in 2003 when the MCPPA was passed, the left cried out that blood would run in the streets.

it has not, and in fact according to the FBI, violent crime has actually decreased in the same time that many states have become “shall issue” states.

these laws do nothing for a criminal, they simply help protect the law abiding citizen.

last time i checked, it was still illegal to murder someone, and that hasn’t stopped criminals. any laws passed will not affect them, because they don’t follow the law anyways.

Thank you for the clarification. I wish I had the time to keep up on this stuff. I guess that’s why I read IDO everyday!!!

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Thank you for the clarification. I wish I had the time to keep up on this stuff. I guess that’s why I read IDO everyday!!!

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you will find all the info you want on this site, read it and judge it for yourself.

http://www.mnccrn.org/

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As a profesional firefighter and EMT this makes me very nervous. We’re often called to residence for fire or EMS alarms and find the doors locked. Not knowing if someone is dying inside or if the house is on fire we usually force entry through a door or window. Now what???

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LOL, how about announcing that you’re EMT or fire and rescue? I’m pretty sure if someones house is burning down and you’re trying to save them that they won’t shoot you..

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As a profesional firefighter and EMT this makes me very nervous. We’re often called to residence for fire or EMS alarms and find the doors locked. Not knowing if someone is dying inside or if the house is on fire we usually force entry through a door or window. Now what???

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Is this a joke? Correct me if I’m wrong I only had 10 years of service in a professional fire department but the last time I check fire and ems were called to a residents so people expect your arrival. Dose your department just randomly go to peoples home and attempt entry without being called to the residents? I think your statement shows how ignorant you are of the bill being voted on. It’s these kind of statements that feed the fire for those in left field to run with.

BassMaster..Get off his back! They face plenty of danger! He’s just thinking ahead! There’s plenty of crazy’s out there and who knows what people will do when the arn’t in thier right mind. Now he has clarification….I think he feels alittle better.

You are wrong….I go to at least 20 calls a year where the resident is not expecting our arrival. Either a family member from another area has called 911 or a monitoring service has called. Shame on you for jumping down my back for seeking some clarification on this issue. Find another sight other then IDO to vent your frustrations!!!

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You are wrong….I go to at least 20 calls a year where the resident is not expecting our arrival. Either a family member from another area has called 911 or a monitoring service has called. Shame on you for jumping down my back for seeking some clarification on this issue. Find another sight other then IDO to vent your frustrations!!!

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I’m not calling you a liar, but 20 calls a year seems very high. What I mean is… Is our 911 system that messed up? If so, I can make an argument this law is even more important to pass. How many calls statewide are like this annually if you are experiencing 20 a year for your unit alone.

I’m sure when you guys force entry into a home you announce yourselves? Whether this law is in effect or not, forcing entry into a home your risk has to be very high?

15-20 calls out 2000 medical calls annually really isn’t that many.

riverookie, if someone is going to shoot you in the line of duty, they would do it with or without this law. For me, this law clears things up and protects the law abiding gun carriers, not people who would irresponsibly fire on emergency workers. The people this affects are the ones who assess situations logically and responsibly.

To me that is the most important thing. That a law abiding citizen can act without fear of persecution. It takes the doubt out of their minds.

I am going to bet that this law might come into play maybe once a year at best. And for that person they don’t have to deliberate in their mind, have I done enough to retreat? Am I going to be charged with murder, even though I know if I don’t do anything there is a good chance harm or death will come to me.

Its just like C&C when it first came out. Predictions of every C&C person getting drunk in a bar and shooting it up in a disagreement. It never happened. In fact, it has had little impact accept possibly the amount of violent crime going down.

I don’t know why, I’m just very surprised and more so disappointed. If I ever need to call 911, that last thing I want to worry about is if help will get sent to the wrong location.

Ironically, Albertville and Otsego have the same stinkin’ street names and I can’t tell you how many times I’ve had friends get lost in Albertville trying to get to Otsego. Oh ya, we use the Monticello zip also…

Either way, thanks for all you do for our communities!

Make sure to direct this frustration towards our governor, and make it imperative that he signs this bill into law!

In our area the police and/or sheriff arrive prior to any ambulance 95% of the time. This may not be the case in all areas. But that arguement does not wash in this area. Also haveing been on these medicals many times with the PD the flashing red lights and sirens usually anounce your arrival to the victim and all the neighbors.

Most of my other thoughts have been expressed. Doesnt change a thing. Except for the CC carrier. Oh and the criminal.

I am sending an email to the Gov right now to sign the legislation!!!

When you jump down peoles throats like that, when they are simply voicing a concern, you completely turn them against you and anything you stand for. This is one of the reasons it is so hard to pass anything involving guns. How about next time you start with something like “I see your concern but..” You really need to work on your people skills.

I for one hope this passes because I like to prepare for the worst. I will have a better piece of mind knowing that when my family is out camping somewhere or what ever the case may be, that i can defend them legaly now by whatever means nessecary and not have to worry about repercussions. Where we live Im not so much worried about it, but we do travel alot. Criminals now seem to have more rights than we do as law abiding citezens. I was looking online and you wouldnt believe some of the cases I read about. For instance, there was a guy that broke into a familys home and was able to sue the family because he fell on a skateboard on their stairs. Another where somebody was attempting to breakin, the homeowners dog attacked and chased them out preventing the burglary. The dog was deemed vicious and was destroyed. When we have a judicial system that makes decisions like this, I think everybody should get a gun or 5, because the protection isnt coming from the law.

Some of you guys sound like your just itching to pull the trigger. Wierd! Im glad I don’t live near you.